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  #31  
Old December 24th 03, 10:50 PM
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I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced.


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  #32  
Old December 25th 03, 01:57 AM
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"bug" wrote in message
...
I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced.


Consider this...

I sure you have considered the standard analogy
of the rubber sheet and some balls to visualize
the space/time curvature mathematically modeled
in the presence of massive objects.... What my
construct attempts to describe is that the rubber
is not external to the massive object but intrinsic
to it. On the standard model a massive object
moves through "space" how ever you define it..
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object.. Too see the difference consider moving
a ball on the imaginary rubber sheet.. As it moves
it takes the "Well" around it with it but the rubber
stays in place. That well is equivalent to the gravitational
well of a massive object. In my view consider the rubber
sheet attached to the ball and the rubber has the inverse
elasticity nature... by this the tensor varies between any two
physical particles depended upon separation distance and
varies to a higher tensor value as distance of any two
massive objects get closer and decreases when distance
of any two massive objects get closer. Just the opposite
of the way elastic rubber behaves.

This "medium" has had many names but I coin it Quantum State
because unlike other aether, quantum foam and the like, no
physical object would move through the medium but the
medium moves with the object and cannot be observed locally
due to any device and any observer is intrinsically connected
to the event being observed. This leads to the mechanism that "sets"
the vacuum value of c. I submit that c is set to 186 kmps by the total
separation distance of all matter on a universal scale. Actually I
predict that it will be found that the value is faster between very
distant objects external of out local cosmic grouping. But not by much
and due to scale the change will less than our ability within error to
detect at our present technology level. But as scale is reduced
the local value of c is reduced as we see when an EM wave traverse
a dense medium.

As far as I can see this does not violate existing rules
of effects in physics and gives a , while not all aspects, causation
for gravitational variance , explanation of c that gives variance that
would be seen a constant on our scale of observation.

Paul Mays



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  #33  
Old December 25th 03, 01:57 AM
Paul R. Mays
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"bug" wrote in message
...
I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced.


Consider this...

I sure you have considered the standard analogy
of the rubber sheet and some balls to visualize
the space/time curvature mathematically modeled
in the presence of massive objects.... What my
construct attempts to describe is that the rubber
is not external to the massive object but intrinsic
to it. On the standard model a massive object
moves through "space" how ever you define it..
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object.. Too see the difference consider moving
a ball on the imaginary rubber sheet.. As it moves
it takes the "Well" around it with it but the rubber
stays in place. That well is equivalent to the gravitational
well of a massive object. In my view consider the rubber
sheet attached to the ball and the rubber has the inverse
elasticity nature... by this the tensor varies between any two
physical particles depended upon separation distance and
varies to a higher tensor value as distance of any two
massive objects get closer and decreases when distance
of any two massive objects get closer. Just the opposite
of the way elastic rubber behaves.

This "medium" has had many names but I coin it Quantum State
because unlike other aether, quantum foam and the like, no
physical object would move through the medium but the
medium moves with the object and cannot be observed locally
due to any device and any observer is intrinsically connected
to the event being observed. This leads to the mechanism that "sets"
the vacuum value of c. I submit that c is set to 186 kmps by the total
separation distance of all matter on a universal scale. Actually I
predict that it will be found that the value is faster between very
distant objects external of out local cosmic grouping. But not by much
and due to scale the change will less than our ability within error to
detect at our present technology level. But as scale is reduced
the local value of c is reduced as we see when an EM wave traverse
a dense medium.

As far as I can see this does not violate existing rules
of effects in physics and gives a , while not all aspects, causation
for gravitational variance , explanation of c that gives variance that
would be seen a constant on our scale of observation.

Paul Mays



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Old December 25th 03, 07:01 PM
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as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..


like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a bit
of sugar stuck to it.
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Old December 25th 03, 07:01 PM
bug
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as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..


like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a bit
of sugar stuck to it.
  #36  
Old December 25th 03, 07:06 PM
Paul R. Mays
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"bug" wrote in message
...
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..


like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick

and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a

bit
of sugar stuck to it.


exactly.. even any device designed to observe and the observer
and explains why the act of observing impacts the event being observed...


  #37  
Old December 25th 03, 07:06 PM
Paul R. Mays
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Default Hi I'm new here


"bug" wrote in message
...
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..


like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick

and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a

bit
of sugar stuck to it.


exactly.. even any device designed to observe and the observer
and explains why the act of observing impacts the event being observed...


  #38  
Old December 25th 03, 08:21 PM
bug
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explains why the act of observing impacts the event being observed...

and thats one of the basic rules of quantum physics, right?
like how the cat is neither dead nor alive until we look.
what would be a good book for begginning a study on quantum physics? I have a
pretty thourough understanding (well for a twenty year old with no college
degree) of newtonian physics, little atomic and nuclear and most of relativity?
steve(vote for me2020!)
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  #39  
Old December 25th 03, 08:21 PM
bug
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Default Hi I'm new here

explains why the act of observing impacts the event being observed...

and thats one of the basic rules of quantum physics, right?
like how the cat is neither dead nor alive until we look.
what would be a good book for begginning a study on quantum physics? I have a
pretty thourough understanding (well for a twenty year old with no college
degree) of newtonian physics, little atomic and nuclear and most of relativity?
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."- trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?

 




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