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Old December 24th 03, 05:28 PM
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And the "groove" is a spiral. Other than that ...


just like a vinyl ep
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  #22  
Old December 24th 03, 05:40 PM
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-O-

is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.


I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in on
itself.
I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order. But like you said how infinity is just a concept do to our
point of reference (ie we exist in a state were time moves forward and never
backwards) so are all the laws we have constructd to explain the universe's
birth and growth.
How can we observe the univerese's death? I believe that it is something
that could be estimated by calculating the amount of dark matter and dark
energy out there ( not a simple task) and comparing it to the amount of light
matter and energy we have. Something in my instincts tells me that the ration
of dark and lighyt matter is key to understanding the rate of expansion (your
first postulates says that hubbles constant isn't constant and I agree with
that.)
Or maybe by observing tachyons (yeah another kook idea) we would have a
better understanding of reverse causality.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.


true but I still believe that the rate of expansion is at the same time another
universes rate of compression (duality, like how every particle of matter has a
particle of anitmatter.) and then as that universe is compressed into the qp
you mentioned (the singularity from which the universe expanded.) our universe
will lose it's expansion and then that other universe is reborn while ours
dies (it's like cosmic reincarnation.)
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."- trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?

  #23  
Old December 24th 03, 05:40 PM
bug
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Default Hi I'm new here

-O-

is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.


I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in on
itself.
I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order. But like you said how infinity is just a concept do to our
point of reference (ie we exist in a state were time moves forward and never
backwards) so are all the laws we have constructd to explain the universe's
birth and growth.
How can we observe the univerese's death? I believe that it is something
that could be estimated by calculating the amount of dark matter and dark
energy out there ( not a simple task) and comparing it to the amount of light
matter and energy we have. Something in my instincts tells me that the ration
of dark and lighyt matter is key to understanding the rate of expansion (your
first postulates says that hubbles constant isn't constant and I agree with
that.)
Or maybe by observing tachyons (yeah another kook idea) we would have a
better understanding of reverse causality.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.


true but I still believe that the rate of expansion is at the same time another
universes rate of compression (duality, like how every particle of matter has a
particle of anitmatter.) and then as that universe is compressed into the qp
you mentioned (the singularity from which the universe expanded.) our universe
will lose it's expansion and then that other universe is reborn while ours
dies (it's like cosmic reincarnation.)
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."- trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?

  #24  
Old December 24th 03, 05:45 PM
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3. The Value of C in a vacuum will vary at the rate of expansion.

true

4. The Value of C will vary in a local close grouping of Particles
( Medium)


true
5. The Value of G will vary locally with separation distance
of local matter.


true
6. All particles that display the aspect of duality are only
EM waves sampled in a short time frame by a method
and design that is intrinsically biased.


could you imagine particles displaying aspects or triality, and quadality etc.
etc.
like how brahma vishnu and siva create sustain and destroy? vs. the concept of
the divine feminine and the divine masculine "mating" and giving birth?

7. The concepts of infinity and paradox are illusions created
when existing rules fail due to scale or incompleteness.


right, space is not infinite

more than 4 dim
to define any point in the universe.


the mathematicians are going to love that

I look for anyone to debate my view in detail
and destroy it by showing me where I deviate
from the existing theory to a point my postulate fails.


I obviously haven't done that
steve(vote for me2020!)
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  #25  
Old December 24th 03, 05:45 PM
bug
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Default Hi I'm new here

3. The Value of C in a vacuum will vary at the rate of expansion.

true

4. The Value of C will vary in a local close grouping of Particles
( Medium)


true
5. The Value of G will vary locally with separation distance
of local matter.


true
6. All particles that display the aspect of duality are only
EM waves sampled in a short time frame by a method
and design that is intrinsically biased.


could you imagine particles displaying aspects or triality, and quadality etc.
etc.
like how brahma vishnu and siva create sustain and destroy? vs. the concept of
the divine feminine and the divine masculine "mating" and giving birth?

7. The concepts of infinity and paradox are illusions created
when existing rules fail due to scale or incompleteness.


right, space is not infinite

more than 4 dim
to define any point in the universe.


the mathematicians are going to love that

I look for anyone to debate my view in detail
and destroy it by showing me where I deviate
from the existing theory to a point my postulate fails.


I obviously haven't done that
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."- trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?

  #26  
Old December 24th 03, 08:26 PM
Jonathan Silverlight
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In message , bug
writes
-O-


is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.


I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in on
itself.
I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order.


I'm fairly sure that the reason it isn't accepted at present (and it was
considered possible fairly recently) is that observational evidence
shows that it won't happen.
Even before the concept of dark energy was proposed it was known that
there isn't enough matter in the universe to make it "closed".
If we are lucky and careful, we really can live for ever!
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  #27  
Old December 24th 03, 08:26 PM
Jonathan Silverlight
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In message , bug
writes
-O-


is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.


I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in on
itself.
I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order.


I'm fairly sure that the reason it isn't accepted at present (and it was
considered possible fairly recently) is that observational evidence
shows that it won't happen.
Even before the concept of dark energy was proposed it was known that
there isn't enough matter in the universe to make it "closed".
If we are lucky and careful, we really can live for ever!
--
Rabbit arithmetic - 1 plus 1 equals 10
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.
  #28  
Old December 24th 03, 10:19 PM
Paul R. Mays
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"bug" wrote in message
...
-O-


is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.


I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time

the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply

seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in

on
itself.


I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced. So using my view the rate of
expansion will continue to increase even as its applied kinetic
form is dissipated through entropy.



I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot

imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the

last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order. But like you said how infinity is just a concept do to

our
point of reference (ie we exist in a state were time moves forward and

never
backwards) so are all the laws we have constructd to explain the

universe's
birth and growth.
How can we observe the univerese's death? I believe that it is

something
that could be estimated by calculating the amount of dark matter and dark
energy out there ( not a simple task) and comparing it to the amount of

light
matter and energy we have. Something in my instincts tells me that the

ration
of dark and lighyt matter is key to understanding the rate of expansion

(your
first postulates says that hubbles constant isn't constant and I agree

with
that.)
Or maybe by observing tachyons (yeah another kook idea) we would have

a
better understanding of reverse causality.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.


true but I still believe that the rate of expansion is at the same time

another
universes rate of compression (duality, like how every particle of matter

has a
particle of anitmatter.) and then as that universe is compressed into the

qp
you mentioned (the singularity from which the universe expanded.) our

universe
will lose it's expansion and then that other universe is reborn while

ours
dies (it's like cosmic reincarnation.)
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."-

trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?



  #29  
Old December 24th 03, 10:19 PM
Paul R. Mays
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"bug" wrote in message
...
-O-


is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.


I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time

the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply

seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in

on
itself.


I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced. So using my view the rate of
expansion will continue to increase even as its applied kinetic
form is dissipated through entropy.



I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot

imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the

last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order. But like you said how infinity is just a concept do to

our
point of reference (ie we exist in a state were time moves forward and

never
backwards) so are all the laws we have constructd to explain the

universe's
birth and growth.
How can we observe the univerese's death? I believe that it is

something
that could be estimated by calculating the amount of dark matter and dark
energy out there ( not a simple task) and comparing it to the amount of

light
matter and energy we have. Something in my instincts tells me that the

ration
of dark and lighyt matter is key to understanding the rate of expansion

(your
first postulates says that hubbles constant isn't constant and I agree

with
that.)
Or maybe by observing tachyons (yeah another kook idea) we would have

a
better understanding of reverse causality.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.


true but I still believe that the rate of expansion is at the same time

another
universes rate of compression (duality, like how every particle of matter

has a
particle of anitmatter.) and then as that universe is compressed into the

qp
you mentioned (the singularity from which the universe expanded.) our

universe
will lose it's expansion and then that other universe is reborn while

ours
dies (it's like cosmic reincarnation.)
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."-

trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?



  #30  
Old December 24th 03, 10:50 PM
bug
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I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced.


ah
steve(vote for me2020!)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/whyweig...mtbrand=AOL_US
"music is like this porthole into another world... the world of truth."- trey
Stick it to the man in 2004, wait? who's the green candidate in 2004?

 




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