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A "groove?" I don't think so.

you ever use a record player?
the earth is the needle, space is the vinyl (only it's blank)
the sun is the pin in the center of the record.
mercury venus are the last two tracks, earth is the third to last, mars is
fourth the belt is fifth (kindof a transitional song)
jupiter is sixth, etc. etc.
the great question of course is what set the whole thing into motion
(cosmology)
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So the Mays Absurd Postulate forms from the mist....


I will start with an assumptions and explain why...
I have heard both side of the arguments on whether
the Universe is a product of a Big Bang (BB from now on)
and I have heard the arguments on it not being a product
of a BB.. and IMHO the argument, data and explanations
in favor of the Universe being a product of the BB seems
the most plausable for the observed Universe we live in.

So I will not make that argument as others have a much better
knowledge base and I would let their views stand and I will
take the position that I assume the Universe was the product
of a conversion of the yet to be defined energy Quantum
that I coin a Quantum Point.

I also consider most all existing mathematical models
hold with my postulate but the interpretation may be
in question in some models. I think that some of the
more contrived constructs are complicated by the Fact
that we do not know all of the rules that apply to the
observed Universe and some mathematical constructs
have been required to use assumed values and contrived
elements in order to fit experimental data when All the
rules are not yet defined.

The primary missing rules are concerning gravitational
variance in the presence of objects with rest mass. We
can define the Effects aspect with great accuracy but we
have yet to define the cause and using existing physical
rules, I submit, we never will because All existing
physical rules only apply to the effect aspect of matter
in motion in relation to other matter in motion...

This is just my neophyte attempt to give a postulate
that gives a rational for that cause while maintaining
that existing rules of effects remain intact and explains
many aspects of the observed universe that have alluded
science for a very long time......


In The Beginning....


To understand the foundation for this postulate some have
called a "Quack Theory of Everything" I must try to
describe the Singularity of the BB before anything that
follows. And in doing so I will postulate on the causation
mechanism for the yet to be defined elements of gravitational
and magnetic variance.

We consider that the yet to be defined energy form that was
the source of the BB was following Einsteinian conversion
then looking at the reverse condition may explain a bit better.

If I have a finite amount of matter and I convert it into an energy
form we observe the energy forms (kinetic, thermal, inertial,)
and are controlled by relativistic force forms ( EM,G,WN&SN)

If we consider the matter without relation to external matter and
convert the matter to energy without reference to external matter
(as is the case of a BB singularity) you have a unified yet to be
defined energy form that seems to have a infinite energy density
but was converted from a finite amount of matter.

In the case of a hypothesized Singularity ( I have a postulate I've posted
before on the view of the Singularity as a Quantum Point of finite
energy potential in base state of ciaos but its generally given the
plonk treatment from the outset) it cannot be defined by any existing
rules at this point and the laws of physics break down causing the
mathematically created illusion of infinity. I submit that the mental
construct of infinity is illusion, illusion that occurs in a model
when the existing rules fail due to scale.

This was the Quantum Point of the BB ( I consider QP [Quantum Point]
as a better descriptor for my postulate for several reasons, it better
relays the concept after time 0+ , better explains the relationships of
matter in both micro and macro regions, better expresses base form
of nature. )

The QP (Chaos Point, Singularity) was a finite amount of unified energy
of a yet to be defined nature. It would have been governed by only
two rule's that we can identify and that is probability and uncertainty.
Without matter all other laws fail... No mathematical construct can be
applied using the rules we today know... Not that there are not rules
that apply, only that existing rules cannot.

So I propose that the QP had the probability of converting a finite
amount of matter in the form of matter/anti matter base particles
of a finite size or not. And that the converted matter due to
uncertainties of conversion may tend to be of any finite amount
and in a finite ratio of matter to antimatter. This view of energy
conversion is fully in holding with Einsteinian conversion theory.
The only consideration is in considering the conversion in
the absence of related other matter external of the local event.

So I posit that the QP existed ( may be a multitude of QP in a
multitude of conversion conditions existing without dimensional
properties that apply from our set of rules in this Universe)
From this QP a finite amount of matter and a finite amount
of antimatter was converted ( a tad bit more matter than
antimatter).

At time 0+ the matter and antimatter annihilated each other
converting the matter and antimatter into energy and since
we now have the left over matter we can model the conversion
using rules that apply to matter in relation to other matter in
motion. This period of annihilation was the inflationary period
that is well written of. The energy was imparted into the base
particles left over, and makes up all matter in the universe
today. This imparted energy maintains the expansion that
followed the inflation with the imparted kinetic applied and
set the particles to ringing, this ringing is the EM signature
of each particle.

At this point I must define my "Particle" as opposed to
"point particles"," Virtual Particles" and other surnames...

My SPP ( Smallest Physical Particle) is a real physical
ball of stuff (very small) that produces a EM wave of a
variable frequency with variable rate of decay of the
frequency and amplitude of the wave. I think it is
detectable and experimentally verifiable but not
with the technology and rules we have in use today.

I consider the string theories to be on the right track
but have yet to consider the bias of considering a
concept while imbedded in the construct in question.

Consider the wave nature of a String as theorized
and then consider it a slice of a EM wave propagating
from a EM producing SPP. If a variation of the
view is applied to the String theory we see that variation as
another String at angle to our first construct and
have a new dimension to contend with. So I contend
that string theory describes the radiating EM fields
of the base SPP and equates out as a slice in the
field at a specific distance of the radiating SPP.

The uncertain nature of the wave is due to the "Medium"
the wave propagates through and other EM producing
SPP's.

The "Medium" that I consider is not the medium of Maxwell's
Aether its a bit different and needs a bit of explanation.

After time 0+ there was a finite amount of matter converted
from the QP but it was not a 100% conversion. Probability
tells us it could have been a .00000001% to a 99.999999%
conversion so we have a remainder of the QP that did not
convert its unified yet to be defined energy form into matter
or anti-matter.

I contend that the Quantum Point of the BB still exists as a
Quantum State between all SPP's. Its properties are that it
produces a inverse tensor (elastic mode variable) between
all SPP's. Each SPP produces a EM wave and those EM wave
mix, heterodyne, cancel out producing a composite EM signature
for each local grouping of SPP's. Due to the complexities and
uncertainty of the mixings end composite it tends to be a
probabilistic state. Locally when two or more SPP's are brought
in proximity they increase in tensor value in relation to
local other SPP's but dependent of the interplay of the EM waves
some will be attracted and some repelled and will tend to form
structure as harmonic nodes form in the EM interplays.

The crux of the problem is the position of the observer in
relation to the observed. Since the reader, writer and all
known methods to observe exist as conglomerates of SPP's
it contains intrinsic bias. We observe by detecting or producing
EM waves and sampling the wave at specific intervals of time.
Since we are connected to the observed by the Quantum State
our act of observing impacts the observed and the observed
impacts the design and method of observing.

As An Example I propose this:

A ----------------------B----C--O--D------E-----------------------Z


A= Furthest SPP in some direction

B= Furthest SPP in some direction relative to local SPP's

C= Closest SPP in some direction relative to local Observer

O= Observer

D= Closest SPP in some direction relative to local Observer

E= Furthest SPP in some direction relative to local SPP's

Z= Furthest SPP in some other direction

--------- = Quantum State


A ----------------------B----C--O--D------E-----------------------Z
--

If A moves the total value of QS varies art the rate of
movement. This is detectable as a variation in the UGC
(Universal Gravitational Constant, Cosmological Constant)
which would reduce as A and all other particle are separated
buy implied kinetic energy. Locally the observer would note
the variance on a much lesser scale as it would be locally
mediated by local SPP's. If this rate occurs on a
universal scale the oberver would consider the value a
constant in that its variance would not be detectable within
the life span of the solar system if we consider the expansion
on a universal scale. This also predicts that the rate of
expansion will increase as the universe expands.


A ----------------------B----C--O--D------E-----------------------Z
--

Now we move D ... the value of the QS is increased
between the observe and the QS value is decreased
between D and E. the UGC remains intact but locally
the value between D,O and C also vary . This separation
distance between SPP's set the local value of all locally
considered SPP's and gives rise to the illusion of curved
space. Since we have yet to define the nature of this
Quantum State (QS), or even all the rules that apply to it,
we model it and the calculation leads to an illusion of
curvature due to the missing construct.

Since we exist within the QS with every particle of our
existence connected to every other we look for observations
and detect the EM waves of groupings of SPP's and due to
our interconnection the EM wave may be observed and
modeled as a "particle" when examined physically or
empirically for a short duration of time, a time that is
short enough to fall below our ability to measure. This
intrinsic bias gives rise to "virtual" particles and any
particle that produces the observable aspect of duality.
And also give rise to the constructs of infinity.

So my own view is that infinity is just illusionary....
An illusion that occurs when the existing rules fail
due to scale or missing rules of causation.

I actually think QM is getting closest to the true nature
of the issue it still not advanced to the point of unification
and that's the issue when speaking of Quantum points
( Ciaos Point [Williams] , singularity)...

The whole of the universe is expanding at an ever increasing
rate as it expands... and the best rational is that the mechanism
that displays as an effect gravity is the Quantum, yet to be defined,
energy that is the remainder of the finite energy that produced
by conversion all the matter in our universe. That Quantum
State exist as a inverse tensor field (elastic mode variance)
where as the field strength reduces with separation distance of bound
physical particles. As the universe expands from the conversion
of matter and anti- matter into heat and kinetic during the inflation
period the field between all particles is reduced causing the UGC
( universal gravitational constant ) to reduce... this causes a lower
UGC on a universal scale and the universe increases its rate of
expansion...

Consider the old view of a Universal Balloon.. if you were at
outside edge or close to it because it has no edge like a balloon
( think of it as a balloon with the skin on the inside... each
particle connected to each other particle with the skin.. as
the particles move apart the strength of the connect is maintained
no matter the distance but its value is reduced between any particles)
The UGC is set by the overall separation of all matter so the baseline
Gravitational field is not constant but varies at a rate set by the
total separation of all matter so on our scale it would appear
as a constant due to it not varying in any degree that could be
measured on our scale..... But locally if the matter is dense the
local gravitational set is varied.. this causes the gravitational wells
of massive objects. The baseline gravitational field is an effect aspect
of separation distance of particles.

I truly think there are no constants or infinities in the universe.
We call a mathematical construct a constant because we cannot
ever note a change in it.. But if it changes on a universal scale
we would never be able to note it as a variable,,, and I submit
that the concept of infinity is but a illusion that occurs when
known mathematical laws break down.

As an example.. try this thought experiment.. you have a finite
amount of matter.. consider it the only matter in the universe..
Einsteinian rules say It can be converted into energy and energy
can be converted into matter.. If its the only matter and you
convert it into energy you cannot get kinetic form because
there is no other matter to impart to.. you cannot get thermal
because thermal conversion must occur to other matter also..
What you would end up with would be unified energy without
any matter for effect physical laws to apply. Now try as
you like, if you wish to calculate the energy quanta of this
conversion you end up with infinite energy.. because all
physical laws we know are only applicable to matter in motion...
and break down if you try to know the energy quanta ...you
end up with the illusion of infinite energy even though
you know that it was converted from a finite amount of matter..

And I now postulate another kook concept....
The value of c is variable and is set by separation distance
of true Physical particles (SPP"s) but the rate of variance of the
base value is set by total separation distance of all
particles on a universal scale and will not vary in the
life span of our solar system. But will vary locally
in closely grouped particle fields. I postulate that this
is the reason for the velocity of EM waves to reduce
while traversing a medium. This is why we experimentally
observe c as source independent because in vacuum it's value
is set by the total separation distance of all SPP's on a Universal
scale. But in a local dense grouping of SPP's we
note a reduced value for c as when an EM wave
traverses a non zero distance through a medium, which
is nothing more than a local dense grouping of SPP's .

The theory of velocity being reduced by absorbs and
retransmission was only conceived because of the bias
that c was constant and a mathematical rational had to
be formed that explained why the measured value of c
was reduced in a medium. If you apply the same
formula to the concept and consider that the value
of c is less between particles you end up with the same
end results as the absorbs and retransmission model....

Using this postulate I make a few predictions

1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.
[UGC = Universal Gravitational Constant CC = Cosmological Constant

3. The Value of C in a vacuum will vary at the rate of expansion.

4. The Value of C will vary in a local close grouping of Particles
( Medium)

5. The Value of G will vary locally with separation distance
of local matter.

6. All particles that display the aspect of duality are only
EM waves sampled in a short time frame by a method
and design that is intrinsically biased.

7. The concepts of infinity and paradox are illusions created
when existing rules fail due to scale or incompleteness.

8. Gravity is the effect of varying the separation distance of
SPP's ( Smallest Physical Particle)

9. Magnetism is the effect of EM waves through natural selection
forming a heterodyned interplay that is detectable as the
attractive force.

10. the WN and SN forces are effects aspects of short range
EM interplays finding equilibrium as SPP's group.

And have as an experiment to show the effect is the Brown effect
of applied static field which Tesla considered in his 1937 static
motion demonstration.

Here's a working variation to demonstrate the effect of altering
the local QS by applied static charge....

http://ripkaboroski.com/device5b.jpg

In closing let me repeat... This is not a theory...
I have not the Mathematical ability to provide
models that can be examined but I do think
the model can be created and verified. For the
most part I see no point where I disagree with the
existing standard models and all existing math
remains intact for the most part. My Postulate
explains many of the issues that have plagued
physics for ever while maintaining that for the
most part all existing physical laws are correct and
viable. My postulate also address's the Zero Point
Energy theories that float about and fills in the
problems that exist in that area. It follows String
Theory to a great deal but gives predictions and
asserts that there is no need for more than 4 dim
to define any point in the universe. The postulate
explains the Brown Effect which has yet to be defined
to a point the definition in agreement with GR or SR.

I look for anyone to debate my view in detail
and destroy it by showing me where I deviate
from the existing theory to a point my postulate fails.

Feel free to ask any question on any aspect not understood
and I will gladly explain my concept of the details mentioned.

I cannot prove my postulate so don't ask for proof but I can
explain the construct and how it fits the existing observation
of the reality around us. There is many aspects I do not
fully grasp so there of course will be holes in the postulate
and that's why I'm here looking for intelligent people
to point out the holes and poke new ones so I can better
express the postulate.


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Paul R. Mays
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1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.

I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in on
itself.
I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order. But like you said how infinity is just a concept do to our
point of reference (ie we exist in a state were time moves forward and never
backwards) so are all the laws we have constructd to explain the universe's
birth and growth.
How can we observe the univerese's death? I believe that it is something
that could be estimated by calculating the amount of dark matter and dark
energy out there ( not a simple task) and comparing it to the amount of light
matter and energy we have. Something in my instincts tells me that the ration
of dark and lighyt matter is key to understanding the rate of expansion (your
first postulates says that hubbles constant isn't constant and I agree with
that.)
Or maybe by observing tachyons (yeah another kook idea) we would have a
better understanding of reverse causality.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.

true but I still believe that the rate of expansion is at the same time another
universes rate of compression (duality, like how every particle of matter has a
particle of anitmatter.) and then as that universe is compressed into the qp
you mentioned (the singularity from which the universe expanded.) our universe
will lose it's expansion and then that other universe is reborn while ours
dies (it's like cosmic reincarnation.)
steve(vote for me2020!)
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writes
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is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.

I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in on
itself.
I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order.

I'm fairly sure that the reason it isn't accepted at present (and it was
considered possible fairly recently) is that observational evidence
shows that it won't happen.
Even before the concept of dark energy was proposed it was known that
there isn't enough matter in the universe to make it "closed".
If we are lucky and careful, we really can live for ever!
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"bug" wrote in message
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-O-

is the needle, our minds are the wires and speakers


1. The Rate of Expansion will increase as the Universe expands.

I'm going to make an assumption here and say that at some point in time
the
rate of expansion will slow down. WHy? In my uneducated mind it simply
seems
logical that the "momentum" from the big bang that allowed the universe to
beggin expanding will one day stop, reverse and the universe will fall in
on
itself.

I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced. So using my view the rate of
expansion will continue to increase even as its applied kinetic
form is dissipated through entropy.



I've read that many people do not accept this because the cannot
imagine
causality working backwords, ie a point were the firsts cause becomes the
last
cause. Also it would violate the 2 law of thermodynamics, it'd be chaos
approaching order. But like you said how infinity is just a concept do to
our
point of reference (ie we exist in a state were time moves forward and
never
backwards) so are all the laws we have constructd to explain the
universe's
birth and growth.
How can we observe the univerese's death? I believe that it is
something
that could be estimated by calculating the amount of dark matter and dark
energy out there ( not a simple task) and comparing it to the amount of
light
matter and energy we have. Something in my instincts tells me that the
ration
of dark and lighyt matter is key to understanding the rate of expansion
(your
first postulates says that hubbles constant isn't constant and I agree
with
that.)
Or maybe by observing tachyons (yeah another kook idea) we would have
a
better understanding of reverse causality.

2. The UGC or CC will vary at the rate of expansion.

true but I still believe that the rate of expansion is at the same time
another
universes rate of compression (duality, like how every particle of matter
has a
particle of anitmatter.) and then as that universe is compressed into the
qp
you mentioned (the singularity from which the universe expanded.) our
universe
will lose it's expansion and then that other universe is reborn while
ours
dies (it's like cosmic reincarnation.)
steve(vote for me2020!)
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trey
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I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced.

ah
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"bug" wrote in message
...
I would agree with that except for the premise of my postulate in
that the Quantum state acts as a Inverse tensor field... This
means that as the universe expands the UGC or The base gravitational
constant of the universe is reduced.

Consider this...

I sure you have considered the standard analogy
of the rubber sheet and some balls to visualize
the space/time curvature mathematically modeled
in the presence of massive objects.... What my
construct attempts to describe is that the rubber
is not external to the massive object but intrinsic
to it. On the standard model a massive object
moves through "space" how ever you define it..
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object.. Too see the difference consider moving
a ball on the imaginary rubber sheet.. As it moves
it takes the "Well" around it with it but the rubber
stays in place. That well is equivalent to the gravitational
well of a massive object. In my view consider the rubber
sheet attached to the ball and the rubber has the inverse
elasticity nature... by this the tensor varies between any two
physical particles depended upon separation distance and
varies to a higher tensor value as distance of any two
massive objects get closer and decreases when distance
of any two massive objects get closer. Just the opposite
of the way elastic rubber behaves.

This "medium" has had many names but I coin it Quantum State
because unlike other aether, quantum foam and the like, no
physical object would move through the medium but the
medium moves with the object and cannot be observed locally
due to any device and any observer is intrinsically connected
to the event being observed. This leads to the mechanism that "sets"
the vacuum value of c. I submit that c is set to 186 kmps by the total
separation distance of all matter on a universal scale. Actually I
predict that it will be found that the value is faster between very
distant objects external of out local cosmic grouping. But not by much
and due to scale the change will less than our ability within error to
detect at our present technology level. But as scale is reduced
the local value of c is reduced as we see when an EM wave traverse
a dense medium.

As far as I can see this does not violate existing rules
of effects in physics and gives a , while not all aspects, causation
for gravitational variance , explanation of c that gives variance that
would be seen a constant on our scale of observation.

Paul Mays



ah
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as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..

like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a bit
of sugar stuck to it.

"bug" wrote in message
...
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..

like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick
and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a
bit
of sugar stuck to it.

exactly.. even any device designed to observe and the observer
and explains why the act of observing impacts the event being observed...

"bug" wrote in message
...
as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..

like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick
and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a
bit
of sugar stuck to it.

exactly.. even any device designed to observe and the observer
and explains why the act of observing impacts the event being observed...

as for mine view "space" moves with the massive
object..

like spinning cotton candy at a carnival, the massive object is the stick and
the wirling sugar is space.
and this applies to all objest no matter how large, every particle gets a bit
of sugar stuck to it.