Opportunity, the second Mars Explorer Rover is on the surface andtransmitting!

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:34:38 GMT, "Kilolani"
wrote:

"Robert J. Kolker" wrote in message
news:adVRb.171895$I06.1707682@attbi_s01...


We are human, it's innate to explore. Get used to it.

I am used to it. Explore at YOUR expense, not MINE.

Oh, for crying out loud... would someone please just give Bob his $2.86 back
so he can crawl back under his rock.


Too late -- the rock won't have him.

In article ,
Jeepers wrote:
In article ,
Graham W wrote:

One of the spin offs of the space program may turn out to be nothing at
all to do with Mars or indeed space, but rather a better understanding
of how best to manage and risk-manage huge engineering projects.

This alone would be marvelous!

We knew how from the 60s to the 80s. It's something that appears
to need relearning every time a project plan is laid down.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

In article ,
Jeepers wrote:
In article ,
Graham W wrote:

One of the spin offs of the space program may turn out to be nothing at
all to do with Mars or indeed space, but rather a better understanding
of how best to manage and risk-manage huge engineering projects.

This alone would be marvelous!

We knew how from the 60s to the 80s. It's something that appears
to need relearning every time a project plan is laid down.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

In article ,
Jeepers wrote:
In article ,
Graham W wrote:

One of the spin offs of the space program may turn out to be nothing at
all to do with Mars or indeed space, but rather a better understanding
of how best to manage and risk-manage huge engineering projects.

This alone would be marvelous!

We knew how from the 60s to the 80s. It's something that appears
to need relearning every time a project plan is laid down.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

In article 0SQRb.135992$nt4.595667@attbi_s51,
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:


wrote:


And, if FDR hadn't started preparations for WW2 before the
US citizens approved it, we would not have the equipment to
fight successfully in WWII.

In other words we should start now to prepare for Chinese on the Moon.

Or make it a cooperative effort. At least think about it.
Running a country based on reactive mode only guarantees doom.
IME mess prevention prevents major messes.




By then it would be too little, too late. It takes years to ramp
up for war on Earth; perhaps you should think about how long
it would take to ramp up for war on the moon.

I other words we should spend more than we make preparing for -possible-
threats, rather than discernable threats.

Are you really that stupid? Both have to be done.

...Good idea. Too bad we don't
have the money for it.

We don't because people of your ilk keep insisting that all money
be deposited in your pockets.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

In article 0SQRb.135992$nt4.595667@attbi_s51,
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:


wrote:


And, if FDR hadn't started preparations for WW2 before the
US citizens approved it, we would not have the equipment to
fight successfully in WWII.

In other words we should start now to prepare for Chinese on the Moon.

Or make it a cooperative effort. At least think about it.
Running a country based on reactive mode only guarantees doom.
IME mess prevention prevents major messes.




By then it would be too little, too late. It takes years to ramp
up for war on Earth; perhaps you should think about how long
it would take to ramp up for war on the moon.

I other words we should spend more than we make preparing for -possible-
threats, rather than discernable threats.

Are you really that stupid? Both have to be done.

...Good idea. Too bad we don't
have the money for it.

We don't because people of your ilk keep insisting that all money
be deposited in your pockets.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

In article 0SQRb.135992$nt4.595667@attbi_s51,
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:


wrote:


And, if FDR hadn't started preparations for WW2 before the
US citizens approved it, we would not have the equipment to
fight successfully in WWII.

In other words we should start now to prepare for Chinese on the Moon.

Or make it a cooperative effort. At least think about it.
Running a country based on reactive mode only guarantees doom.
IME mess prevention prevents major messes.




By then it would be too little, too late. It takes years to ramp
up for war on Earth; perhaps you should think about how long
it would take to ramp up for war on the moon.

I other words we should spend more than we make preparing for -possible-
threats, rather than discernable threats.

Are you really that stupid? Both have to be done.

...Good idea. Too bad we don't
have the money for it.

We don't because people of your ilk keep insisting that all money
be deposited in your pockets.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.

wrote:


We don't because people of your ilk keep insisting that all money
be deposited in your pockets.

You object to people keeping the stuff they worked for? If the money is
to be taxed away, why bother working? Or let us just barter and hide
what we make from the tax man.

Personally I don't want one cent more than I earned. I believe in the
basic principle of justice: what is mine is mine and what is yours is
yourse. A civilized man knows the difference between his own and other
people's. A savage barbarian, sees, wants and grabs. Which are you?

Bob Kolker

wrote:


We don't because people of your ilk keep insisting that all money
be deposited in your pockets.

You object to people keeping the stuff they worked for? If the money is
to be taxed away, why bother working? Or let us just barter and hide
what we make from the tax man.

Personally I don't want one cent more than I earned. I believe in the
basic principle of justice: what is mine is mine and what is yours is
yourse. A civilized man knows the difference between his own and other
people's. A savage barbarian, sees, wants and grabs. Which are you?

Bob Kolker

wrote:


We don't because people of your ilk keep insisting that all money
be deposited in your pockets.

You object to people keeping the stuff they worked for? If the money is
to be taxed away, why bother working? Or let us just barter and hide
what we make from the tax man.

Personally I don't want one cent more than I earned. I believe in the
basic principle of justice: what is mine is mine and what is yours is
yourse. A civilized man knows the difference between his own and other
people's. A savage barbarian, sees, wants and grabs. Which are you?

Bob Kolker