Opportunity, the second Mars Explorer Rover is on the surface andtransmitting!

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.


Bob Kolker

As the saying goes, "For everything, there is a season"

You might be right, but its the wrong time, the wrong season.

Save it please.

jon

NASA is pretty good at unmanned science missions (the great observatories,
the Mars Rovers, etc.); not so good at manned flight (which is all about
politics and doesn't generate much science).

The best thing we could do would be to boost the space station up to a nice
stable orbit, lock it up, and hand the keys over to the Chinese. Then NASA
could do a great deal more real science with unmanned missions at fraction
of the cost.

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Louis Cohen
Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8"


"Robert J. Kolker" wrote in message
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John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

NASA is pretty good at unmanned science missions (the great observatories,
the Mars Rovers, etc.); not so good at manned flight (which is all about
politics and doesn't generate much science).

The best thing we could do would be to boost the space station up to a nice
stable orbit, lock it up, and hand the keys over to the Chinese. Then NASA
could do a great deal more real science with unmanned missions at fraction
of the cost.

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Louis Cohen
Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8"


"Robert J. Kolker" wrote in message
news:_lIQb.117114$nt4.482280@attbi_s51...


John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

NASA is pretty good at unmanned science missions (the great observatories,
the Mars Rovers, etc.); not so good at manned flight (which is all about
politics and doesn't generate much science).

The best thing we could do would be to boost the space station up to a nice
stable orbit, lock it up, and hand the keys over to the Chinese. Then NASA
could do a great deal more real science with unmanned missions at fraction
of the cost.

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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Louis Cohen
Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8"


"Robert J. Kolker" wrote in message
news:_lIQb.117114$nt4.482280@attbi_s51...


John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:10:48 -0800, "Louis Cohen"
wrote:

NASA is pretty good at unmanned science missions (the great observatories,
the Mars Rovers, etc.); not so good at manned flight (which is all about
politics and doesn't generate much science).

Not in least because manned spaceflight is NASA, and unmanned spaceflight is
(mostly) JPL. And JPL is a very different thing (although NASA would like to
pretend otherwise).

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Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:10:48 -0800, "Louis Cohen"
wrote:

NASA is pretty good at unmanned science missions (the great observatories,
the Mars Rovers, etc.); not so good at manned flight (which is all about
politics and doesn't generate much science).

Not in least because manned spaceflight is NASA, and unmanned spaceflight is
(mostly) JPL. And JPL is a very different thing (although NASA would like to
pretend otherwise).

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:10:48 -0800, "Louis Cohen"
wrote:

NASA is pretty good at unmanned science missions (the great observatories,
the Mars Rovers, etc.); not so good at manned flight (which is all about
politics and doesn't generate much science).

Not in least because manned spaceflight is NASA, and unmanned spaceflight is
(mostly) JPL. And JPL is a very different thing (although NASA would like to
pretend otherwise).

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

YAY nasa & jpl! Hope everything keeps on keeping on!
I enjoyed watching the tension and jubilation at JPL as everyone
waited for signals from Mars. And while I felt the same, it was also
just a bit strange knowing that all events had taken place on Mars
something like 20 minutes ago... Opportunity had either landed or
crashed, and we were just now finding out how things had gone, ALMOST in
real time.
Marty

YAY nasa & jpl! Hope everything keeps on keeping on!
I enjoyed watching the tension and jubilation at JPL as everyone
waited for signals from Mars. And while I felt the same, it was also
just a bit strange knowing that all events had taken place on Mars
something like 20 minutes ago... Opportunity had either landed or
crashed, and we were just now finding out how things had gone, ALMOST in
real time.
Marty

YAY nasa & jpl! Hope everything keeps on keeping on!
I enjoyed watching the tension and jubilation at JPL as everyone
waited for signals from Mars. And while I felt the same, it was also
just a bit strange knowing that all events had taken place on Mars
something like 20 minutes ago... Opportunity had either landed or
crashed, and we were just now finding out how things had gone, ALMOST in
real time.
Marty