Telescope in Lord Of The Rings: ROTK!

"Pat OConnell" wrote in message
news:HWOEb.19816$J77.11626@fed1read07...
Kilolani wrote:

Having read the books 28 times, I have to agree. The Two Towers, for
example, took one chapter of the book (Helm's Deep) and streched it to
over
1 hour on the screen. Needless to say, they dropped a HUGE portion of
the
storyline for that. Also the charaters in the book are pretty much
archetypical... Aragorn and Faramir are poet, historian, warriors...
unfailingly noble. Peter Jackson rendered Faramir as little more than a
bumbling bully. I'm almost reticent to see the third movie, but if it
has a
telescope, I suppose I should.

The elves were, it seems, great astronomers. My 12.5" Dob is named
Morwinyon, the Elvish name for Arcturus--roughly translated as "the
glint at
twilight."

So what star is Earendil?


My guess... and it is jsut a guess... Canopus.

In article HWOEb.19816$J77.11626@fed1read07, Pat OConnell
wrote:

So what star is Earendil?

Probably Venus. It actually represents a celestial mariner sailing
around up there.

--
Joe Bergeron

http://www.joebergeron.com

In article HWOEb.19816$J77.11626@fed1read07, Pat OConnell
wrote:

So what star is Earendil?

Probably Venus. It actually represents a celestial mariner sailing
around up there.

--
Joe Bergeron

http://www.joebergeron.com

In article k.net,
Kilolani wrote:

The second movie, however, reaffirmed my faith in Hollywood's
(even Hollywood in NewZealand) prevailing view that there's no point in
remaining faithful to a beloved story when you can throw in a totally
fabricated love triangle and a really BIG battle and render all your
characters flat and two dimensional.

What fabricated love triangle? Do you mean Aragorn/Eowyn/Arwen? If so,
Eowyn's unrequited infatuation with Aragorn is shown about the same way
it is in the book...although in the book Aragorn isn't having all these
flashbacks or visions of Arwen.

--
Joe Bergeron

http://www.joebergeron.com

In article k.net,
Kilolani wrote:

The second movie, however, reaffirmed my faith in Hollywood's
(even Hollywood in NewZealand) prevailing view that there's no point in
remaining faithful to a beloved story when you can throw in a totally
fabricated love triangle and a really BIG battle and render all your
characters flat and two dimensional.

What fabricated love triangle? Do you mean Aragorn/Eowyn/Arwen? If so,
Eowyn's unrequited infatuation with Aragorn is shown about the same way
it is in the book...although in the book Aragorn isn't having all these
flashbacks or visions of Arwen.

--
Joe Bergeron

http://www.joebergeron.com

Joe Bergeron wrote:
So what star is Earendil?

Probably Venus. It actually represents a celestial mariner sailing
around up there.

I have also heard (elsewhere) that it is identified as Venus.

Brian Tung
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt

Joe Bergeron wrote:
So what star is Earendil?

Probably Venus. It actually represents a celestial mariner sailing
around up there.

I have also heard (elsewhere) that it is identified as Venus.

Brian Tung
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt

should I have read the books first?? I know they've been out
since before I was born, but I have to admit that I was not familiar with
the characters or names until the movies came out. Am I missing something by
seeing the movies without having read the books first?

No. But you can read them now. Ask for a set of the paperbacks for christmas.
Won't cost you a dime.

The movies have great
special effects, but the whole experience of viewing them left me flat in
just about every other way.

Oh, well, it's a newtonian thing. More time at the ep of a newt will make
things clearer. ; )

john

should I have read the books first?? I know they've been out
since before I was born, but I have to admit that I was not familiar with
the characters or names until the movies came out. Am I missing something by
seeing the movies without having read the books first?

No. But you can read them now. Ask for a set of the paperbacks for christmas.
Won't cost you a dime.

The movies have great
special effects, but the whole experience of viewing them left me flat in
just about every other way.

Oh, well, it's a newtonian thing. More time at the ep of a newt will make
things clearer. ; )

john

If you read the books you know the movie has little relationship to them,
other than some of the names are the same.

One of the stars of these films, is Middle Earth itself. The film makers did a
great job of capturing the essence of it.

The first 30 minutes of the
first movie was good. It then became apparent artistic license took over.

I used to be a purist too. I gave it up.
Nothing equals the books. Far more depth than a film could do. So if you want
to walk in Middle Earth, look to the books.

john