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Daniel65 wrote:
R Kym Horsell wrote on 18/2/21 4:34 am: Luigi Caselli wrote: Il 17/02/2021 15:33, ha scritto: This extremely important message can't be stated enough : What part of : Distance = Speed x Time , don't people understand ? ! Even at speeds approaching light speed ( very unlikely in any case ) , interstellar distances are still way far too great ! Why thinking of interstellar travel? The UFO or more correctly UAP (unidentified aerial phenomenon) could come from the Earth itself. Luigi Caselli I agree the "mostly likely" interpretation of the data at this point is a bunch of "aliens" that seem a lot like humans. Maybe they have interplanetary capability but they seem hang out in obscure parts of the earth "a lot" of the time. But interestingly the "space warp technology" some physicists argue UFO's exhibit from time to time (e.g. "shape shifting") is a potential FTL drive. Warp drive uses the same part of General Rel that allowed the universe to expand to ~100 bn LY diameter in 13 bn y. Wasn't that situation explained away by postulating that the speed of light used to be a heck of a lot faster than it currently is .... you know, how things tend to get slower as they age?? I don't know if the "different speeds" idea is still an idea that physicists back. It may be superceded. It was around before the "modern cosmology" that explained how the universe could be so big, with an origin so recent ("only" 14 bn y) and look about the same in all directions. Parts that are in opposite dirs and now far apart seem to have the same temperature so how could they have communicated their temperature to each other even at an early stage of the universe? The current operating theory is that not only did the things in the universe expand away from each other and the singularity that was the Big Bang, but that space itself expanded ("inflation") and space doesn't have even a Relativity-induced speed limit, only things that have to plod through it. -- Inflation in early universe In physical cosmology, cosmic inflation, cosmological inflation, or just inflation, is a theory of exponential expansion of space in the early universe. The inflationary epoch lasted from 10 -36 seconds after the conjectured Big Bang singularity to some time between 10 **-33 and 10 **-32 seconds after the singularity. -- wiki |
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R Kym Horsell wrote on 18/2/21 6:07 pm:
Daniel65 wrote: wrote on 18/2/21 6:53 am: But interestingly the "space warp technology" some physicists argue UFO's exhibit from time to time (e.g. "shape shifting") is a potential FTL drive. Warp drive uses the same part of General Rel that allowed the universe to expand to ~100 bn LY diameter in 13 bn y. These concepts are science fiction with no comprehensive basis in fact and certainly never demonstrated or obserned in any way. There always has to be at least one "nay-sayer"?? casagiannoni (various nyms)says the universe has not been observed in any way and probably does not exist. Hmm! I would agree that we have not observed "The *whole* Universe" but we have certainly observed *some* of the Universe!! Who is to say just this one time he didn't guess wrong? Everybody has to be right, .... sooner or later!! -- Daniel |
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