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It's not just ULA's DIV-H that is have trouble getting off the ground.
SpaceX aborted its GPS-III launch last night at T-2 seconds. As traffic picks up I wonder if it all that helpful to schedule extremely narrow launch windows for uncrewed missions? Missing a narrow launch window doesn't allow for a recycle, even for the most trivial of fixes. Instead, a launch scrub pushes back on the schedule for everyone. And not necessarily just at Canaveral. Of course there is still weather. That is what it is. Launch schedules have to all take in the somewhat unpredictable. But you can provide yourself with options and fall-backs in lieu of scrubs. Not a big deal when launching once or twice a year, but 30+ times? We live in interesting times. Dave |
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On 03-Oct-20 11:18 pm, David Spain wrote:
It's not just ULA's DIV-H that is have trouble getting off the ground. SpaceX aborted its GPS-III launch last night at T-2 seconds. As traffic picks up I wonder if it all that helpful to schedule extremely narrow launch windows for uncrewed missions? Missing a narrow launch window doesn't allow for a recycle, even for the most trivial of fixes. Instead, a launch scrub pushes back on the schedule for everyone. And not necessarily just at Canaveral. Of course there is still weather. That is what it is. Launch schedules have to all take in the somewhat unpredictable. But you can provide yourself with options and fall-backs in lieu of scrubs. Not a big deal when launching once or twice a year, but 30+ times? We live in interesting times. Dave The launch time determines the orbital plane. Unless a mission is insensitive to that there's little option but to wait until until the narrow window reopens. A small amount of plane change after launch is possible, but it consumes fuel Sylvia. |
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Sylvia Else writes:
The launch time determines the orbital plane. Unless a mission is insensitive to that there's little option but to wait until until the narrow window reopens. A small amount of plane change after launch is possible, but it consumes fuel Yes that makes perfect sense. So the question remains, what is a sustainable launch cadence from a single point of departure? Narrow launch windows don't help if the hardware has reliability problems. Which of course as you rightly point out in many cases are necessary. Does that argue for multiple launch sites and more staggered launch slots? Again we don't really know, we've never experienced this level of traffic before. It will all be very interesting to see how this unfolds. Dave |
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On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 11:05:42 AM UTC-4, David Spain wrote:
Sylvia Else writes: The launch time determines the orbital plane. Unless a mission is insensitive to that there's little option but to wait until until the narrow window reopens. A small amount of plane change after launch is possible, but it consumes fuel Yes that makes perfect sense. So the question remains, what is a sustainable launch cadence from a single point of departure? Narrow launch windows don't help if the hardware has reliability problems. Which of course as you rightly point out in many cases are necessary. Does that argue for multiple launch sites and more staggered launch slots? Again we don't really know, we've never experienced this level of traffic before. It will all be very interesting to see how this unfolds. Virginia has about 8 orbital launches per year, Canaveral about 35 to 40. Maybe a few more could be moved to Virginia. |
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On 04-Oct-20 1:04 am, David Spain wrote:
Sylvia Else writes: The launch time determines the orbital plane. Unless a mission is insensitive to that there's little option but to wait until until the narrow window reopens. A small amount of plane change after launch is possible, but it consumes fuel Yes that makes perfect sense. So the question remains, what is a sustainable launch cadence from a single point of departure? Narrow launch windows don't help if the hardware has reliability problems. Which of course as you rightly point out in many cases are necessary. Does that argue for multiple launch sites and more staggered launch slots? Again we don't really know, we've never experienced this level of traffic before. It will all be very interesting to see how this unfolds. Dave Perhaps this is where a craft like Skylon will come back into its own, despite SpaceX eating into its reusable economics, such that Reaction Engines are no longer promoting it (at least, not much). It has the same orbital plane constraints, but only has to occupy the launch site (a runway, in its case) for a short period, so if a launch has to be scrubbed, it can be towed away until the next window opens, while other missions are handled. Sylvia. |
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