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RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 09:54:16 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote: On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 00:19:24 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote: No, we are on the surface. The surface is "now". The center is t=0 (actually, it is (0,0,0,0), the location of the Big Bang). The past is inside the sphere, where it is not accessible to us. IBTD. If we are to take this literally, then the universe isn't flat, it has no end-point (for us) and building bigger telescopes means little. I don't follow. Why is there no value in building instruments that extend how far we can see, in both space and time? Stupidly, I was actually hoping that they could build scopes large enough to see the brightest objects at the edge of the known universe. This has never been possible because we can only see (into) the past. Therefore, the farthest thing that we can actually *see* (electromagnetically) is the last scattering surface (LSS), before our universe became transparent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background Gravitational waves provide a new way of seeing, but they can only take us further back in time, to the Big Bang event (and maybe beyond). Unfortunately, if we are on a sphere, there is no edge, we'll see to a certain distance and that'll be it. Even worse, we simply cannot see our universe at this distance as it is now. https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310808 Building larger scopes now will enhance what we can see however. Yes. However, I'm not even sure I buy the sphere idea anyway. This is not a new idea. The idea that is rather new is that dark energy makes it possible for the surface of our universe to be a sphere without its eventually collapsing. However, the current standard model suggests that our universe should be flat, and observations confirm that; so I wonder how the Upsala researchers reconcile their model with the observations of e.g., the Planck Collaboration’s. This has nothing to do with *amateur* astronomy. F’up2 sci.astro. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. |
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