Oh no, not again

Mike Collins wrote in

nal-september.org:

Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:41:03 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Is there a news web site in Britian that isn't?

True; the Times is paywalled.

John Savard


The Times is owned by Murdoch.

For decent News sites there a The Independent, The Guardian,
The Financial Times, BBC News.

BBC News gets closer than most. The rest? Laughable.

--
Terry Austin

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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 02/07/2018 17:23, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Quadibloc wrote in
:

A former NASA scientists claims UFOs really are alien
spacecraft, and the government has been covering it up...

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/30/ex-na...ys-aliens-exis
t-encounters-covered-governments-7672163/

Noting the source, it's not even worth reading. I'd need a deposition
under oath by the scientist in question that he actually talked to a
reporter from metro.co.uk to even consider the possibility that he
actually exists.

Kevin H. Knuth actually exists as a signal processing Bayesian statician
at University of Albany (as the Metro article describes).

https://www.albany.edu/ceas/kevin-knuth.php

From his publication record and his Bayesian background I would expect
him to have been rather more circspect about generating such a headline
- it entirely possible very probably certain he has been misquoted.

He does have an interest in detecting exoplanets.

They're about as credible as The Onion. About as fictional, too.

It's a free newspaper in London and fairly reliable. All newspapers are
notoriously unreliable when it comes to reporting science.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 04/07/2018 19:43, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:41:03 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Is there a news web site in Britian that isn't?

True; the Times is paywalled.

Here is a version of the actual press release written by the man himself
as published in The Independent in the UK and much less mangled.

https://www.indy100.com/article/are-...d-ufos-8425276

Also contains links to the Contact conference. Slightly OTT IMHO.


--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown wrote in
news
On 02/07/2018 17:23, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Quadibloc wrote in
:

A former NASA scientists claims UFOs really are alien
spacecraft, and the government has been covering it up...

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/30/ex-na...says-aliens-ex
is t-encounters-covered-governments-7672163/

Noting the source, it's not even worth reading. I'd need a
deposition under oath by the scientist in question that he
actually talked to a reporter from metro.co.uk to even consider
the possibility that he actually exists.

Kevin H. Knuth actually exists as a signal processing Bayesian
statician at University of Albany (as the Metro article
describes).

You weren't under oath when you wrote that, so sadly, I can't take
your word for it.

https://www.albany.edu/ceas/kevin-knuth.php

From his publication record and his Bayesian background I would
expect
him to have been rather more circspect about generating such a
headline - it entirely possible very probably certain he has
been misquoted.

Ya think?

He does have an interest in detecting exoplanets.

They're about as credible as The Onion. About as fictional,
too.

It's a free newspaper in London and fairly reliable. All
newspapers are notoriously unreliable when it comes to reporting
science.

That you find any free newspaper even remotely reliable says more
about you than the newspaper.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Martin Brown wrote in
news
On 04/07/2018 19:43, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:41:03 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Is there a news web site in Britian that isn't?

True; the Times is paywalled.

Here is a version of the actual press release written by the man
himself as published in The Independent in the UK and much less
mangled.

https://www.indy100.com/article/are-...ering-up-evide
nce-of-aliens-and-ufos-8425276

I got as far as taking cattle mutilations seriously as evidence of
UFOs. The guy's a wingnut.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 06/07/2018 16:17, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Martin Brown wrote in
news
On 04/07/2018 19:43, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:41:03 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Is there a news web site in Britian that isn't?

True; the Times is paywalled.

Here is a version of the actual press release written by the man
himself as published in The Independent in the UK and much less
mangled.

https://www.indy100.com/article/are-...ering-up-evide
nce-of-aliens-and-ufos-8425276

I got as far as taking cattle mutilations seriously as evidence of
UFOs. The guy's a wingnut.

He might be as far as UFO's are concerned but he is still a formidable
Bayesian researcher. I wouldn't be too quick to discount him as a nut.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 4:58:31 AM UTC-6, Martin Brown wrote:

Kevin H. Knuth actually exists as a signal processing Bayesian statician
at University of Albany (as the Metro article describes).

And, sadly, it is one Kevin H. Knuth that formerly worked for NASA, so this
isn't a case of, say, a Kevin R. Knuth who mught have been a custodian for them.
Whatever his qualifications, this sort of thing does mean that he has gone off
the rails.

It's sad when this happens, but advanced intellectual work imposes a mental
strain, and scientists are subject to the same emotional forces as other people.

John Savard

Martin Brown wrote in
news
On 06/07/2018 16:17, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Martin Brown wrote in
news
On 04/07/2018 19:43, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:41:03 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Is there a news web site in Britian that isn't?

True; the Times is paywalled.

Here is a version of the actual press release written by the
man himself as published in The Independent in the UK and much
less mangled.

https://www.indy100.com/article/are-...overing-up-evi
de nce-of-aliens-and-ufos-8425276

I got as far as taking cattle mutilations seriously as evidence
of UFOs. The guy's a wingnut.

He might be as far as UFO's are concerned but he is still a
formidable Bayesian researcher. I wouldn't be too quick to
discount him as a nut.

I got as far as taking cattle mutilations seriously as evidence
of UFOs. The guy's a wingnut.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On Saturday, 7 July 2018 19:28:54 UTC+2, Quadibloc wrote:
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 4:58:31 AM UTC-6, Martin Brown wrote:

Kevin H. Knuth actually exists as a signal processing Bayesian statistician
at University of Albany (as the Metro article describes).

And, sadly, it is one Kevin H. Knuth that formerly worked for NASA, so this
isn't a case of, say, a Kevin R. Knuth who mught have been a custodian for them.
Whatever his qualifications, this sort of thing does mean that he has gone off
the rails.

It's sad when this happens, but advanced intellectual work imposes a mental
strain, and scientists are subject to the same emotional forces as other people.

John Savard

UFOism has become a fully fledged religion. With all the typical self-reinforcing mechanisms within the faith's followers. The demand for proof has fallen to lamentable levels. Allowing room for the lowest standard of writing, video and photography to stand as absolute proof of empty their claims.

The believer's desperate need for some superhero to end the world's endless corruption [or boredom] is all it requires for faith to take flight. Any Hitler, Putin, Trump, KKK, Pope, Kim, Ronaldo, street gang, Spacey, ISIS, little green man or Erdogan will do.

Provided the idiot believer can switch on their genetically hard-wired, belief system. That their hero-worship will lead to a better world. Anything is better than being a mere extra on the stage of life. Worship allows you to belong to something [or anything.] And to lash out blindly at any non-believers who might dare to undermine their fantastic castles in the air.