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Old April 28th 18, 07:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:12:18 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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I showed you such evidence several months ago. I guess you
didn't think it was strong enough :-)


No evidence can ever be strong enough to overcome religious faith.


If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.
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Old April 28th 18, 09:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 20:59:16 +0200, Paul Schlyter
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:12:18 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:
I showed you such evidence several months ago. I guess you
didn't think it was strong enough :-)


No evidence can ever be strong enough to overcome religious faith.


If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.


Science and religion are absolutely mutually incompatible.
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Old April 29th 18, 11:25 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:23:28 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
No evidence can ever be strong enough to overcome religious

faith.

If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.


Science and religion are absolutely mutually incompatible.


If so, why are there people who call themselves religious but who are
reasonable and not zealot fundamentalists?

And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through his
life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?
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Old April 29th 18, 02:44 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:25:07 +0200, Paul Schlyter
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:23:28 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
No evidence can ever be strong enough to overcome religious

faith.

If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.


Science and religion are absolutely mutually incompatible.


If so, why are there people who call themselves religious but who are
reasonable and not zealot fundamentalists?


They are broken. They are only able to achieve reason in some areas by
compartmentalization, the psychological protection against cognitive
dissonance. The compartmentalization is necessary precisely because
religion and reason can't coexist.

And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through his
life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?


Isaac Newton wasn't a scientist in any modern sense of the word. And
he was profoundly irrational in many aspects of his life. Note that I
did not say a religious person was incapable of reason, only that
religion and science are completely incompatible.
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Old April 29th 18, 06:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:44:30 -0600, Chris L Peterson
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If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.


Science and religion are absolutely mutually incompatible.


If so, why are there people who call themselves religious but who

are
reasonable and not zealot fundamentalists?


They are broken. They are only able to achieve reason in some areas

by
compartmentalization, the psychological protection against cognitive
dissonance. The compartmentalization is necessary precisely because
religion and reason can't coexist.


Are they more or less broken than a zealot fundamentalist? The zealot
fundamentalist is at least consistent...


And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through his
life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?


Isaac Newton wasn't a scientist in any modern sense of the word. And
he was profoundly irrational in many aspects of his life. Note that

I
did not say a religious person was incapable of reason, only that
religion and science are completely incompatible.


Name one other scientist who found the mathematics needed to express
his new scientific ideas unavailable, and then invented the new
mathematics he needed. Not even Einstein did that.
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Old April 29th 18, 11:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:23:56 +0200, Paul Schlyter
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They are broken. They are only able to achieve reason in some areas

by
compartmentalization, the psychological protection against cognitive
dissonance. The compartmentalization is necessary precisely because
religion and reason can't coexist.


Are they more or less broken than a zealot fundamentalist? The zealot
fundamentalist is at least consistent...


Broken in a different way, I imagine.

And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through his
life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?


Isaac Newton wasn't a scientist in any modern sense of the word. And
he was profoundly irrational in many aspects of his life. Note that

I
did not say a religious person was incapable of reason, only that
religion and science are completely incompatible.


Name one other scientist who found the mathematics needed to express
his new scientific ideas unavailable, and then invented the new
mathematics he needed. Not even Einstein did that.


Like I said, I don't consider Newton a scientist in the modern usage
of the word. That's not to diminish his results, simply to observe
that modern science remained to be invented.
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Old April 30th 18, 09:24 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:53:10 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
Name one other scientist who found the mathematics needed to

express
his new scientific ideas unavailable, and then invented the new
mathematics he needed. Not even Einstein did that.


Like I said, I don't consider Newton a scientist in the modern usage
of the word. That's not to diminish his results, simply to observe
that modern science remained to be invented.


Is a modern scientist the same as an atheistic scientist?
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Old April 30th 18, 05:44 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Chris L Peterson wrote in
:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:23:56 +0200, Paul Schlyter
wrote:

They are broken. They are only able to achieve reason in some
areas

by
compartmentalization, the psychological protection against
cognitive dissonance. The compartmentalization is necessary
precisely because religion and reason can't coexist.


Are they more or less broken than a zealot fundamentalist? The
zealot fundamentalist is at least consistent...


Broken in a different way, I imagine.

And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through
his life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?


Isaac Newton wasn't a scientist in any modern sense of the
word. And he was profoundly irrational in many aspects of his
life. Note that

I
did not say a religious person was incapable of reason, only
that religion and science are completely incompatible.


Name one other scientist who found the mathematics needed to
express his new scientific ideas unavailable, and then invented
the new mathematics he needed. Not even Einstein did that.


Like I said, I don't consider Newton a scientist in the modern
usage of the word.


That says far more about you than it does about Newton. Namely,
that when confronted with a truth you dont' like, youi'll
hallucinate a different world more to your taste.

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Old April 30th 18, 05:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:25:07 +0200, Paul Schlyter
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:23:28 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
No evidence can ever be strong enough to overcome religious

faith.

If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.


Science and religion are absolutely mutually incompatible.


If so, why are there people who call themselves religious but
who are reasonable and not zealot fundamentalists?


They are broken. They are only able to achieve reason in some
areas by compartmentalization, the psychological protection
against cognitive dissonance. The compartmentalization is
necessary precisely because religion and reason can't coexist.

And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through his
life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?


Isaac Newton wasn't a scientist in any modern sense of the word.
And he was profoundly irrational in many aspects of his life.


Nice dodge. Newton laid the foundations of modern physics that are
still taught today.

Your hallucinationi that he wasn't a scientists suggests you need
professional psychiatric help.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Old April 30th 18, 05:42 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Paul Schlyter wrote in
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 14:23:28 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
No evidence can ever be strong enough to overcome religious

faith.

If so, science and religion are mutually incompatible.


Science and religion are absolutely mutually incompatible.


If so, why are there people who call themselves religious but
who are reasonable and not zealot fundamentalists?


And why do so many scientists profess religous bleiefs?

And why did e.g. Isaac Newton, who was religious all through his
life, make such remarkable scientific breakthroughs?

Indeed. Perhaps he was isnpired by God.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

 




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