Sunset at the South pole

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 2:14:06 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
The polar sunrise/sunset or the polar day/night cycle which takes an orbit to complete and the rotation behind it is for those who can escape the celestial sphere ideologies which plague Western civilization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

It is as gorgeous for those who have some human goodness to take notice as it will be abhorred by those who are as crude as any people ever to appear on this planet.

Heaven is in people's hearts while hell is in their heads.

So, you lied again, almost immediately... when you claimed "I am not dealing with you from now on..." You are at least excelling in something...

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:16:38 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 2:14:06 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
The polar sunrise/sunset or the polar day/night cycle which takes an orbit to complete and the rotation behind it is for those who can escape the celestial sphere ideologies which plague Western civilization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

It is as gorgeous for those who have some human goodness to take notice as it will be abhorred by those who are as crude as any people ever to appear on this planet.

Heaven is in people's hearts while hell is in their heads.

So, you lied again, almost immediately... when you claimed "I am not dealing with you from now on..." You are at least excelling in something...

This is not the screaming heads of sci.physics.relativity and the stock phrases of old men, this is the only working forum in the world dealing with observations in context of the Earth's daily and orbital motions and I value my efforts enough not to have them dragged into a celestial sphere cistern..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnkPZVyRInQ

Every single person can watch the Sun come into view each day as their location turns in a circle so when they see the time lapse footage of the Sun appearing for the first time in 6 months at the North and South poles they can immediately identify a surface rotation behind that event -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

These dual surface rotations happen and they have real effects such as the seasons and variations in the natural noon cycle. I do not mind how quiet people get when faced with something which is a product of our era as somebody took the time to take the time lapse of polar sunrise on the Equinox, these observed motions now provide a foundation for everything from the simple acknowledgement of dual rotations or in-depth research.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:36:34 PM UTC, oriel36 wrote:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...precession.svg

It doesn't matter how many times I produce that graphic

because it still shows the 26,0000 year precession of the poles, not an annual orbit of the sun. The fact that the North pole points at the North star throughout the year proves this.

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 8:52:48 AM UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:36:34 PM UTC, oriel36 wrote:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...precession.svg

It doesn't matter how many times I produce that graphic

because it still shows the 26,0000 year precession of the poles, not an annual orbit of the sun. The fact that the North pole points at the North star throughout the year proves this.

I repeat,it doesn't matter how many times I show the graphic along with polar sunrise within the context of the polar day/night cycle, the surface rotation which causes the Sun to come into view for the first time in 6 months is a property of the Earth's orbital motion alone and the polar surface points offer a window into that surface rotation -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

The issue is what is the dynamic behind the polar sunrise and 6 months later polar sunset at the same location. The answer is and always will be that as the Earth travels around the Sun those polar points turn parallel to the orbital plane and to the central Sun.

The larger matter is who can appreciate the beauty of a sunrise for what it is and especially that sunrise made possible by people down at the Antarctic latitude. There are no medals or honors for this no more than there is for appreciation of beautiful music, it only lets the person know that they are capable of goodness, dignity and have the intelligence to admire something greater than themselves.

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:09:54 AM UTC, oriel36 wrote:

The issue is what is the dynamic behind the polar sunrise and 6 months later polar sunset at the same location. The answer is and always will be that as the Earth travels around the Sun those polar points turn parallel to the orbital plane and to the central Sun.

This issue is one a 12 year old child can grasp, and the answer is in every textbook. But for some reason you are unable to understand simple orbital motion, and persist in creating wildly inconsistent views of what is really straightforward:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_orbit#/media/File:North_season.jpg

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:44:21 AM UTC, wrote:
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 9:09:54 AM UTC, oriel36 wrote:

The issue is what is the dynamic behind the polar sunrise and 6 months later polar sunset at the same location. The answer is and always will be that as the Earth travels around the Sun those polar points turn parallel to the orbital plane and to the central Sun.

This issue is one a 12 year old child can grasp, and the answer is in every textbook. But for some reason you are unable to understand simple orbital motion, and persist in creating wildly inconsistent views of what is really straightforward:


Polar sunrise like daily sunrise is due to a rotation as the Sun comes into view . I can talk all day long about this wonderful annual event at either poles but it still requires people to stitch together a narrative using actual observations from the surface of the Earth -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

Lessons learned from dual surface rotations observed from other planets and specifically Uranus -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE

While the polar day/night cycle exists in splendid isolation at the North and South polar latitudes, where it mixes with daily rotation we get the seasons and it spreads out into terrestrial sciences in all sorts of ways.

Instead of having poles jutting out of the polar points, people have to consider that they represent a window in the the surface rotation as a component of the Earth orbital motion around the Sun. This is not like any other era where a person meekly presents observations for academics to approve or disapprove and waits a century for people to die before it is accepted, this is the 21st century where anyone can easily enjoy the dual sunrises and sunsets within a day that happens twice a year at either Equinox.