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Old August 12th 15, 10:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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oriel36 wrote:
On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 6:14:25 PM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:
http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dsen-Scott.png

It was dark yesterday, today , tomorrow and some time to come as this
area inhabited by humans is influenced by the polar day/night cycle
alone and the surface rotation as a property of the orbital motion of the Earth.

It takes a small spark to ignite the appreciation of the great surface
rotation to the central Sun which happens as the Earth moves through
space in a specific way.

Thugs hate those things which interfere with their own estimation of
themselves and especially hate the possibility that students will be
influenced by expansive ideas . It is why the Middle Eastern thugs of
isis killed 19 girls last week as they had that bravery to face
execution rather than bend to cult convictions. The empirical ideology
which challenges the most basic facts, whether it is the relationship
between the Lat/Long system and the 24 hour system to a single 360
degree rotation of the Earth, the inviolate proportion of Pi or any
other simple fact is far more corrosive to Western society than anything seen before.

The polar day/night cycle is real as is the surface rotation behind it
along with the great event of sea ice appearance and its disappearance.


http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

Check out those beautiful auroras at the Southern most daily rotational point.

A line running through the center of the Earth and determined by the
circle of illumination shows the rotational points at 23 1/2 degrees
above the most Southern points defined by the orbital plane Hence the
North/South poles are carried around in a circle to the central Sun each annual circuit.

http://scitechdaily.com/images/Afric...Miles-Away.jpg

http://www.astronomy.com/-/media/Fil...ransitfull.gif

I wouldn't even know what it must take to ignore the cause of the polar
day/night cycle and sea ice evolution when imaging clearly shows why
dual surface is so poor that yourotations are necessary however there is
a hatred out against astronomy by people who refuse to look at anything
past their local horizon and a magnification exercise.



Of course you don't know. That's because you ignore the inconvenient fact
that you are wrong, That means you have to also ignore all the evidence
which shows you are wrong. You are so incapable of understanding the facts
that you post evidence which shows how wrong you are and expect everyone to
ignore it. You constantly lie by suggesting that anyone in the world other
than you believes your wannabe cult. However your case is so poor that you
don't have a single believer. Tens of thousands believe Elvis Presley is
alive but you can't convince a single person.
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Old August 13th 15, 07:16 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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There are literally dozens of things to comment on once imaging is front and center so there is really no time to waste on voodoo merchants or the dour who seem to hate everything .

http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

All time zones converge at the Southern polar station so effectively the orbital day/night cycle and a year long clock takes over. If the June Solstice determines it is 12 Midnight in orbital time and at the September Equinox it is 6 AM within the orbital day, then it is currently after 3 AM orbital time at the South pole and 3 PM orbital time at the North pole. In a purely technical sense the orbital day extends to all lower latitudes but just as the 24 hour day and daily rotational designations of timezones are meaningless at the poles, the orbital day ceases to have any meaning at the Equator.

It is a great deal of fun for those who can reason and it is entirely new. This forum remains the best chance to circulate these ideas which return things such as climate back into research mode instead of trying to squeeze it into a minor atmospheric gas and middle class lifestyles.





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Old August 13th 15, 08:48 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:
There are literally dozens of things to comment on once imaging is front
and center so there is really no time to waste on voodoo merchants or the
dour who seem to hate everything .

http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

All time zones converge at the Southern polar station so effectively the
orbital day/night cycle and a year long clock takes over. If the June
Solstice determines it is 12 Midnight in orbital time and at the
September Equinox it is 6 AM within the orbital day, then it is currently
after 3 AM orbital time at the South pole and 3 PM orbital time at the
North pole. In a purely technical sense the orbital day extends to all
lower latitudes but just as the 24 hour day and daily rotational
designations of timezones are meaningless at the poles, the orbital day
ceases to have any meaning at the Equator.

It is a great deal of fun for those who can reason and it is entirely
new. This forum remains the best chance to circulate these ideas which
return things such as climate back into research mode instead of trying
to squeeze it into a minor atmospheric gas and middle class lifestyles.


There is no fun in making up nonsense.
Stop doing it!
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Old August 13th 15, 09:48 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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The polar day/night cycle should be one of the most established facts in all astronomy along with its cause. The evolution of Arctic sea ice is perhaps one of the easiest ways to appreciate the surface rotation to the Sun as a secondary consequence of the Earth's orbital motion through space.

I am not striving against empiricists, I am putting the issue front and center using actual imaging from the Amundsen- Scott station at the South pole where orbital night dominates for those who can appreciate the dual surface rotations of the planet corresponding to dual day/night cycles.

http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station


The river of bile that flows through this forum vanishes in these threads which use as much imaging and graphics as possible to expand appreciation of the connection between the celestial arena and terrestrial experiences. No point in taunting people who can't explain why there is roughly 6 months of darkness at the Amundsen station followed by 6 months of daylight because they want to stick with the old 'tilt' explanation.

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Old August 14th 15, 10:16 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

Orbital dawn is somewhat a ways off as the planet moves through space and has yet to turn the South pole latitudes through the circle of illumination around the September Equinox, the only time that location will pass through the circle of illumination whereas at lower latitudes locations pass through the circle of illumination into dawn each 24 hour hours.

The partitioning of dual day/night cycles by way of dynamics is for the ordinary observer who is capable of discerning how a planet turns in two distinct ways to the central Sun and as a point of departure for researching multiple things like why the noon cycles vary from 24 hours, what causes the seasons, how the orbital surface rotation is responsible for sea ice evolution and many more issues that have yet to appear.

The less capable trundle out the 'tilt' explanation around the Equinoxes and Solstices as though the Earth tilted towards and award from the Sun as an action but the breakthrough is accounting for the polar day/night and the daily daylight/darkness cycle using separate rotations. Welcome to the 21st century for those who can make it.
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Old August 14th 15, 12:56 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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oriel36 wrote:
http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

Orbital dawn is somewhat a ways off


A long way off since it exists only in your warped and impaired
imagination.
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Old August 14th 15, 03:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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By definition, dawn is when a location passes through the circle of illumination in solar radiation and the visible Sun and there are two such dawns accessible to humanity as all latitudes below the Arctic and Antarctic circles experience a dawn with each rotation of the planet while dawn appears once for the North/South poles as the orbital surface rotation dominates exclusively.

Even those who are silent must have a seething hatred of human reason in terms of astronomy to ignore the dual surfaces rotations responsible for so much of human experience whether it is the great bulk of the population who experience these dual surface rotations as the seasons or the few dozen people now at the South pole who experience the polar day/night cycle and its cause in isolation.

This is not for the downcast, this is for decent people who can lift their heads and enjoy what 21st century life can bring -

http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

If there are astronomers at the South pole they may ask why they are looking constantly away from the central Sun for the past number of months. They will find the answer here in this forum for the first time.






 




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