Another "Pole Shift" Chicken Little surfaces

"Double-A" wrote in message
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Wally Anglesea? wrote in
message . ..
.. For instance if a north pole formed over New York City, solar
wind radiation would be funneled right down onto the people of New
York.


So, there is the possibility of REALLY GOOD NEWS. Now, if we could just
inch it down between Baltimore and Richmond.........

But seriously folks, doesn't the geological data indicate that the polar
shift is an end for end swap? For the same reason I don't know why the
shhift would be random, I don't know why it would not be end for end.

chuck petterson
curious about all things larger than life

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"Double-A" wrote in message
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Wally Anglesea? wrote in

message . ..
. For instance if a north pole formed over New York City, solar

wind radiation would be funneled right down onto the people of New
York.



So, there is the possibility of REALLY GOOD NEWS. Now, if we could just
inch it down between Baltimore and Richmond.........

But seriously folks, doesn't the geological data indicate that the polar
shift is an end for end swap? For the same reason I don't know why the
shhift would be random, I don't know why it would not be end for end.

AFAIK, when the shift is over, it's basically end for end.
However, in the run-up, there are weird magnetic anomalies that
spring up at odd places. Or probably not so odd, just related
to geology that I'm not up on.

IIRC, there was a magnetic anomaly forming in the eastern
Atlantic near Africa; but I'm really open to correction on this.

Tom McDonald

Tom McDonald wrote:
spam this wrote:

"Double-A" wrote in message
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Wally Anglesea? wrote in


message . ..
. For instance if a north pole formed over New York City, solar

wind radiation would be funneled right down onto the people of New
York.




So, there is the possibility of REALLY GOOD NEWS. Now, if we could just
inch it down between Baltimore and Richmond.........

But seriously folks, doesn't the geological data indicate that the polar
shift is an end for end swap? For the same reason I don't know why the
shhift would be random, I don't know why it would not be end for end.


AFAIK, when the shift is over, it's basically end for end. However,
in the run-up, there are weird magnetic anomalies that spring up at odd
places. Or probably not so odd, just related to geology that I'm not up
on.

IIRC, there was a magnetic anomaly forming in the eastern Atlantic
near Africa; but I'm really open to correction on this.

Tom McDonald

What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.

Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the
mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?

How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html

www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:


What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.

That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html


Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the

Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.


mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?

Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.
On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.


How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?

There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.
As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface, with
wave action proving how they were formed. Even the TV show
were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise. The claim for Cuba is even more silly.
So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm


http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html

That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).



www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?

Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence.




--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.

DrPostman wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.


That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html

My my aren't we nitpicking. What I said was, near perfectly preserved.
Perhaps you should get some new glasses.



Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the


Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.

No, you are confusing magnetic reversals for tectonic plate movements.
I already know that magnetic forces can and will affect the mantle of
the earth and the tectonic plates producing earthquakes worldwide. No
land region will go unaffected by earthquakes when the reversal happens.





mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?


Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.

You don't have sufficient evidence to say that, and you haven't looked
at the evidence which already does exist.


On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.

You are confusing crustal displacement with ice core samples.




How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?


There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.

You are either really stupid, or just plain ignorant.

As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface,

What you get told is what they want you to know. What you choose to
agree with depends on your sanity factor I guess. In your case, I
wouldn't be holding out the sanity award.

with
wave action proving how they were formed.

How utterly despicable of you to write that. There is no such proof
that you suggest, if so provide the links please, otherwise I hear the
nurse is waiting for you outside your padded room.

Even the TV show
were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise.

Just like you I suppose, you can prove that there is no such thing as
sunken artifical cities.

The claim for Cuba is even more silly.

Thats why National Geographic is doing a report on it, because of its
silly factor.

So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.

Idiots always need "closer investigation" in order to see their own arse.

http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm



http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html


That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).

Duh!




www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?


Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence.

Its you who has the weird theory....er weirder response. Go back and
look at the evidence before you open your stupid arse mouth for all to see.





--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, And Stupid TOO, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-Dumb-Ass, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:19:18 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



DrPostman wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.


That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html

My my aren't we nitpicking. What I said was, near perfectly preserved.
Perhaps you should get some new glasses.

They weren't "near perfectly preserved" either. They don't even think
they can get what they need to try to clone them.



Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the


Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.

No, you are confusing magnetic reversals for tectonic plate movements.
I already know that magnetic forces can and will affect the mantle of
the earth and the tectonic plates producing earthquakes worldwide. No
land region will go unaffected by earthquakes when the reversal happens.

The flipping of the magnetic fields will take several decades, if not
centuries. This will cause no earthquakes. The two are not related.





mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?


Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.

You don't have sufficient evidence to say that, and you haven't looked
at the evidence which already does exist.

You are making some silly assumptions. I have looked at the
"evidence"
and found it wanting, if not out right wrong. Care to refute the
following?
http://www.planet-x.150m.com/nopoleshift.html
http://www.pibburns.com/smmia5.htm



On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.

You are confusing crustal displacement with ice core samples.

You are confused over what ice core samples can prove.
Educate yourself:
http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/...iles/frame.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/icecores.html



How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?


There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.

You are either really stupid, or just plain ignorant.

Where is your proof that there are? I saw the Hancock show, he
pointed out no pyramids. The data from the museum in Cuba that
backed the last expedition doesn't show any pyramids either (unless
I missed it in all the pics.)



As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface,

What you get told is what they want you to know. What you choose to
agree with depends on your sanity factor I guess. In your case, I
wouldn't be holding out the sanity award.

What I have researched seems to trump your ad hominems all to hell.


with
wave action proving how they were formed.

How utterly despicable of you to write that. There is no such proof
that you suggest, if so provide the links please, otherwise I hear the
nurse is waiting for you outside your padded room.

Sure thing, asshole:

"The Japanese sites of Yonaguni and Kerama are natural rock, with no
sign of archaeological significance. Again, I informed Hancock's film
company in June 2000 that these sites were natural, and that there
were better sites to visit. This information was ignored, although all
the documents and reports on better sites are in the public domain
(see bibliography, below). The Japanese Nippon TV company showed me
video recordings of the Yonaguni site in about 1992 and I considered
it to obviously be natural rock, an opinion that was reported on
Japanese domestic television."
source: http://www.hallofmaat.com/maat/artic...?sid=36&page=1



Even the TV show
were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise.

Just like you I suppose, you can prove that there is no such thing as
sunken artifical cities.

I didn't post that, now did I, asshole? I have scuba dived on one,
have you?



The claim for Cuba is even more silly.

Thats why National Geographic is doing a report on it, because of its
silly factor.

No, the claims that are being made are silly because a LOT more data
is needed. More than one dive, and a closer one at that, is needed.
I bet you don't even know the extent of the first expedition, do you?



So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.

Idiots always need "closer investigation" in order to see their own arse.

Are you calling the museum that backed the expedition "idiots"?
What is wrong with verifying data? Are you so afraid of confirmation?


http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm



http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html


That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).

Duh!

Then why throw it in there, dumbass? It has nothing to do with the
subject.



www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?


Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence.

Its you who has the weird theory....er weirder response. Go back and
look at the evidence before you open your stupid arse mouth for all to see.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Get used to it.

And you even suck at the ad hominems, let alone backing up your
claims.







--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.

Dr_Postman wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:19:18 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



DrPostman wrote:


On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:




What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.


That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html

My my aren't we nitpicking. What I said was, near perfectly preserved.
Perhaps you should get some new glasses.


They weren't "near perfectly preserved" either. They don't even think
they can get what they need to try to clone them.

You read about one (1) Mammoth discovery and now you think you know
everything?




Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the


Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.

I am not the one confused here, it is you.


No, you are confusing magnetic reversals for tectonic plate movements.
I already know that magnetic forces can and will affect the mantle of
the earth and the tectonic plates producing earthquakes worldwide. No
land region will go unaffected by earthquakes when the reversal happens.


The flipping of the magnetic fields will take several decades, if not
centuries. This will cause no earthquakes. The two are not related.

Says who? You.....hahahahahahaha






mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?


Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.

You don't have sufficient evidence to say that, and you haven't looked
at the evidence which already does exist.


You are making some silly assumptions. I have looked at the
"evidence"

What evidence did you look at? A silly attempt to clone Mammoths?
Hhahahahahahaha

and found it wanting, if not out right wrong. Care to refute the
following?
http://www.planet-x.150m.com/nopoleshift.html
http://www.pibburns.com/smmia5.htm

You call those two web sites evidence? And then you have the nerve to
say I support those web sites? Man you are a dumb ass.





On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.

You are confusing crustal displacement with ice core samples.


You are confused over what ice core samples can prove.

Pfftt...why dont you just go away or hide in a corner. Stop telling me
what I believe or do not believe. I can speak for myself. Idiot.

Educate yourself:

While you are at...do the same. ANd take that dunce cap off, it makes
you look bad.

http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/...iles/frame.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/icecores.html




How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?


There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.

You are either really stupid, or just plain ignorant.


Where is your proof that there are?


Like you care. You already stated there is no proof or evidence of
underwater structures... now you ask me where is the proof. You really
like to pick fights dont you.


I saw the Hancock show, he
pointed out no pyramids. The data from the museum in Cuba that
backed the last expedition doesn't show any pyramids either (unless
I missed it in all the pics.)




As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface,

What you get told is what they want you to know. What you choose to
agree with depends on your sanity factor I guess. In your case, I
wouldn't be holding out the sanity award.


What I have researched seems to trump your ad hominems all to hell.

It actually shows how much of a dumb arse you are..your socalled
"research" isnt worth half of what my toilet paper is worth.




with

wave action proving how they were formed.

There is no wave action of water that produces perfectly horizontal and
vertical walls as yet in any scientific paper I have seen? Please show
me the quotes which scientists who claims water erosion can make
perfectly aligned vertical walls and horizontal steps? Please do show
your incredible (sic) research?


How utterly despicable of you to write that. There is no such proof
that you suggest, if so provide the links please, otherwise I hear the
nurse is waiting for you outside your padded room.


Sure thing, asshole:

"The Japanese sites of Yonaguni and Kerama are natural rock, with no
sign of archaeological significance. Again, I informed Hancock's film
company in June 2000 that these sites were natural, and that there
were better sites to visit. This information was ignored, although all
the documents and reports on better sites are in the public domain
(see bibliography, below). The Japanese Nippon TV company showed me
video recordings of the Yonaguni site in about 1992 and I considered
it to obviously be natural rock, an opinion that was reported on
Japanese domestic television."
source: http://www.hallofmaat.com/maat/artic...?sid=36&page=1

**** man, that web site right from the start proves its hostility to
anything supernatural, yet with Egyptian artwork to boot. What a damn
bunch of hypocrites you like to quote from. The article you are quoting
only shows to me that they never saw the actual underwater sites...but
merely viewed pictures of it online. Furthermore, they have yet to
explain how water erosion can produce vertical walls in perfect
alignment even after thousands of years under water. Put plainly its a
web site devoted to sycophantic spin doctoring and hateful arse kissing
propaganda. You'll have to do better than that.





Even the TV show

were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise.

Ok, so what. A geologist says otherwise...who cares. The facts speak
for themselves. In fact the discovery of the underwater monuments were
predicted and the exact location to boot before their chance discovery.
And by the way....how come no one is saying anything about the
Meditterenean underwater cities and structures? How did they end up
underwater? And how come your geologist who relies upon water erosion
to discount perfect vertical walls and perfect horizontal platforms
under water....says nothing about the sphinx being subjected to water
erosion at a much earlier time than is accepted by Egyptologists?


Just like you I suppose, you can prove that there is no such thing as
sunken artifical cities.


I didn't post that, now did I, asshole? I have scuba dived on one,
have you?

Tsk, tsk..dumb arse. You just said there is no under water cities. ANd
in this post you provided a link to a web site which says the platforms
were made by water erosion, even though there is no proof to say
that...you back it up like its the truth....so who is the dumb arse? You
are.






The claim for Cuba is even more silly.

Thats why National Geographic is doing a report on it, because of its
silly factor.


No, the claims that are being made are silly because a LOT more data
is needed. More than one dive, and a closer one at that, is needed.
I bet you don't even know the extent of the first expedition, do you?

How old are you? are you like 20ish going on like 9?





So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.

Blah, blah, blah, blah..thats not how you act in your first response.
You said and I quote...there is no such thing as underwater structures
that are man made.


Idiots always need "closer investigation" in order to see their own arse.


Are you calling the museum that backed the expedition "idiots"?
What is wrong with verifying data? Are you so afraid of confirmation?

When you already know what is going on...confirmation is just for the
morons.




http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm




http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html


That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).

Duh!


Then why throw it in there, dumbass? It has nothing to do with the
subject.

I did a quick search on frozen mammoths only to show that certain
conditions are necessary for them to exist. But like the underwater
monument finds all over the world, I figured dumb asses like you would
say, there is no such thing as frozen Mammoths. So I provided a link.
The actual find is quite specific however that I am referring to when i
say...nearly perfectly preserved. Remember that is nearly...in case you
miss that.






www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?


Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence



Its you who has the weird theory....er weirder response. Go back and
look at the evidence before you open your stupid arse mouth for all to see.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Get used to it.

**** man, you are and others in here are pretty darn stupid. This
thread is all about polar shifting, but instead...its more all about
"prove this Yoda, and prove that Yoda, and your stupid Yoda, and blah,
blah blah" there is no serious interest here about what happens during
a pole shift.


And you even suck at the ad hominems, let alone backing up your
claims.

**** you too.








--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled Dumb Ass, But Armed With Hatred"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKIT-ZO-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.

Dr_Postman wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:19:18 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



DrPostman wrote:


On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:




What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.


That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html

My my aren't we nitpicking. What I said was, near perfectly preserved.
Perhaps you should get some new glasses.


They weren't "near perfectly preserved" either. They don't even think
they can get what they need to try to clone them.

You read about one (1) Mammoth discovery and now you think you know
everything?




Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the


Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.

I am not the one confused here, it is you.


No, you are confusing magnetic reversals for tectonic plate movements.
I already know that magnetic forces can and will affect the mantle of
the earth and the tectonic plates producing earthquakes worldwide. No
land region will go unaffected by earthquakes when the reversal happens.


The flipping of the magnetic fields will take several decades, if not
centuries. This will cause no earthquakes. The two are not related.

Says who? You.....hahahahahahaha






mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?


Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.

You don't have sufficient evidence to say that, and you haven't looked
at the evidence which already does exist.


You are making some silly assumptions. I have looked at the
"evidence"

What evidence did you look at? A silly attempt to clone Mammoths?
Hhahahahahahaha

and found it wanting, if not out right wrong. Care to refute the
following?
http://www.planet-x.150m.com/nopoleshift.html
http://www.pibburns.com/smmia5.htm

You call those two web sites evidence? And then you have the nerve to
say I support those web sites? Man you are a dumb ass.





On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.

You are confusing crustal displacement with ice core samples.


You are confused over what ice core samples can prove.

Pfftt...why dont you just go away or hide in a corner. Stop telling me
what I believe or do not believe. I can speak for myself. Idiot.

Educate yourself:

While you are at...do the same. ANd take that dunce cap off, it makes
you look bad.

http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/...iles/frame.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/icecores.html




How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?


There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.

You are either really stupid, or just plain ignorant.


Where is your proof that there are?


Like you care. You already stated there is no proof or evidence of
underwater structures... now you ask me where is the proof. You really
like to pick fights dont you.


I saw the Hancock show, he
pointed out no pyramids. The data from the museum in Cuba that
backed the last expedition doesn't show any pyramids either (unless
I missed it in all the pics.)




As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface,

What you get told is what they want you to know. What you choose to
agree with depends on your sanity factor I guess. In your case, I
wouldn't be holding out the sanity award.


What I have researched seems to trump your ad hominems all to hell.

It actually shows how much of a dumb arse you are..your socalled
"research" isnt worth half of what my toilet paper is worth.




with

wave action proving how they were formed.

There is no wave action of water that produces perfectly horizontal and
vertical walls as yet in any scientific paper I have seen? Please show
me the quotes which scientists who claims water erosion can make
perfectly aligned vertical walls and horizontal steps? Please do show
your incredible (sic) research?


How utterly despicable of you to write that. There is no such proof
that you suggest, if so provide the links please, otherwise I hear the
nurse is waiting for you outside your padded room.


Sure thing, asshole:

"The Japanese sites of Yonaguni and Kerama are natural rock, with no
sign of archaeological significance. Again, I informed Hancock's film
company in June 2000 that these sites were natural, and that there
were better sites to visit. This information was ignored, although all
the documents and reports on better sites are in the public domain
(see bibliography, below). The Japanese Nippon TV company showed me
video recordings of the Yonaguni site in about 1992 and I considered
it to obviously be natural rock, an opinion that was reported on
Japanese domestic television."
source: http://www.hallofmaat.com/maat/artic...?sid=36&page=1

**** man, that web site right from the start proves its hostility to
anything supernatural, yet with Egyptian artwork to boot. What a damn
bunch of hypocrites you like to quote from. The article you are quoting
only shows to me that they never saw the actual underwater sites...but
merely viewed pictures of it online. Furthermore, they have yet to
explain how water erosion can produce vertical walls in perfect
alignment even after thousands of years under water. Put plainly its a
web site devoted to sycophantic spin doctoring and hateful arse kissing
propaganda. You'll have to do better than that.





Even the TV show

were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise.

Ok, so what. A geologist says otherwise...who cares. The facts speak
for themselves. In fact the discovery of the underwater monuments were
predicted and the exact location to boot before their chance discovery.
And by the way....how come no one is saying anything about the
Meditterenean underwater cities and structures? How did they end up
underwater? And how come your geologist who relies upon water erosion
to discount perfect vertical walls and perfect horizontal platforms
under water....says nothing about the sphinx being subjected to water
erosion at a much earlier time than is accepted by Egyptologists?


Just like you I suppose, you can prove that there is no such thing as
sunken artifical cities.


I didn't post that, now did I, asshole? I have scuba dived on one,
have you?

Tsk, tsk..dumb arse. You just said there is no under water cities. ANd
in this post you provided a link to a web site which says the platforms
were made by water erosion, even though there is no proof to say
that...you back it up like its the truth....so who is the dumb arse? You
are.






The claim for Cuba is even more silly.

Thats why National Geographic is doing a report on it, because of its
silly factor.


No, the claims that are being made are silly because a LOT more data
is needed. More than one dive, and a closer one at that, is needed.
I bet you don't even know the extent of the first expedition, do you?

How old are you? are you like 20ish going on like 9?





So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.

Blah, blah, blah, blah..thats not how you act in your first response.
You said and I quote...there is no such thing as underwater structures
that are man made.


Idiots always need "closer investigation" in order to see their own arse.


Are you calling the museum that backed the expedition "idiots"?
What is wrong with verifying data? Are you so afraid of confirmation?

When you already know what is going on...confirmation is just for the
morons.




http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm




http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html


That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).

Duh!


Then why throw it in there, dumbass? It has nothing to do with the
subject.

I did a quick search on frozen mammoths only to show that certain
conditions are necessary for them to exist. But like the underwater
monument finds all over the world, I figured dumb asses like you would
say, there is no such thing as frozen Mammoths. So I provided a link.
The actual find is quite specific however that I am referring to when i
say...nearly perfectly preserved. Remember that is nearly...in case you
miss that.






www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?


Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence



Its you who has the weird theory....er weirder response. Go back and
look at the evidence before you open your stupid arse mouth for all to see.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Get used to it.

**** man, you are and others in here are pretty darn stupid. This
thread is all about polar shifting, but instead...its more all about
"prove this Yoda, and prove that Yoda, and your stupid Yoda, and blah,
blah blah" there is no serious interest here about what happens during
a pole shift.


And you even suck at the ad hominems, let alone backing up your
claims.

**** you too.








--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled Dumb Ass, But Armed With Hatred"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKIT-ZO-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:19:18 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



DrPostman wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.


That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html

My my aren't we nitpicking. What I said was, near perfectly preserved.
Perhaps you should get some new glasses.

They weren't "near perfectly preserved" either. They don't even think
they can get what they need to try to clone them.



Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the


Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.

No, you are confusing magnetic reversals for tectonic plate movements.
I already know that magnetic forces can and will affect the mantle of
the earth and the tectonic plates producing earthquakes worldwide. No
land region will go unaffected by earthquakes when the reversal happens.

The flipping of the magnetic fields will take several decades, if not
centuries. This will cause no earthquakes. The two are not related.





mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?


Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.

You don't have sufficient evidence to say that, and you haven't looked
at the evidence which already does exist.

You are making some silly assumptions. I have looked at the
"evidence"
and found it wanting, if not out right wrong. Care to refute the
following?
http://www.planet-x.150m.com/nopoleshift.html
http://www.pibburns.com/smmia5.htm



On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.

You are confusing crustal displacement with ice core samples.

You are confused over what ice core samples can prove.
Educate yourself:
http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/...iles/frame.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/icecores.html



How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?


There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.

You are either really stupid, or just plain ignorant.

Where is your proof that there are? I saw the Hancock show, he
pointed out no pyramids. The data from the museum in Cuba that
backed the last expedition doesn't show any pyramids either (unless
I missed it in all the pics.)



As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface,

What you get told is what they want you to know. What you choose to
agree with depends on your sanity factor I guess. In your case, I
wouldn't be holding out the sanity award.

What I have researched seems to trump your ad hominems all to hell.


with
wave action proving how they were formed.

How utterly despicable of you to write that. There is no such proof
that you suggest, if so provide the links please, otherwise I hear the
nurse is waiting for you outside your padded room.

Sure thing, asshole:

"The Japanese sites of Yonaguni and Kerama are natural rock, with no
sign of archaeological significance. Again, I informed Hancock's film
company in June 2000 that these sites were natural, and that there
were better sites to visit. This information was ignored, although all
the documents and reports on better sites are in the public domain
(see bibliography, below). The Japanese Nippon TV company showed me
video recordings of the Yonaguni site in about 1992 and I considered
it to obviously be natural rock, an opinion that was reported on
Japanese domestic television."
source: http://www.hallofmaat.com/maat/artic...?sid=36&page=1



Even the TV show
were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise.

Just like you I suppose, you can prove that there is no such thing as
sunken artifical cities.

I didn't post that, now did I, asshole? I have scuba dived on one,
have you?



The claim for Cuba is even more silly.

Thats why National Geographic is doing a report on it, because of its
silly factor.

No, the claims that are being made are silly because a LOT more data
is needed. More than one dive, and a closer one at that, is needed.
I bet you don't even know the extent of the first expedition, do you?



So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.

Idiots always need "closer investigation" in order to see their own arse.

Are you calling the museum that backed the expedition "idiots"?
What is wrong with verifying data? Are you so afraid of confirmation?


http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm



http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html


That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).

Duh!

Then why throw it in there, dumbass? It has nothing to do with the
subject.



www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?


Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence.

Its you who has the weird theory....er weirder response. Go back and
look at the evidence before you open your stupid arse mouth for all to see.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Get used to it.

And you even suck at the ad hominems, let alone backing up your
claims.







--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.

DrPostman wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:17:53 GMT, Yoda
wrote:



What if the current height of Manchu Picchu in Peru as well as frozen
wooly Mammoths found in Siberia is evidence of a previous so called
polar shift? I have heard it said that Manchu Picchu was heaved up
during the last shift, and that only a massive "heat sink" can account
for the near perfectly preserved Mammoth discovered frozen.


That's a total myth. None have been found "perfectly preserved".
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/atlantis.html
http://www.csicop.org/sb/9603/origins.html

My my aren't we nitpicking. What I said was, near perfectly preserved.
Perhaps you should get some new glasses.



Also wouldn't the tectonic plates all over the world begin to shift or
slide as the magnetic grid begins to loosen leading up to and prior to a
cataclysmic polar reversal? Perhaps there is a cubic function to the


Somehow you are confusing magnetic reversals for the movement
of plates.

No, you are confusing magnetic reversals for tectonic plate movements.
I already know that magnetic forces can and will affect the mantle of
the earth and the tectonic plates producing earthquakes worldwide. No
land region will go unaffected by earthquakes when the reversal happens.





mantle of the earth and if predictions are accurate, worldwide
earthquakes will occur like the ringing of a crystal with many facets,
and increasingly grow in magnatude until a critical threshold is
reached, whereupon the potential magnetic torque is released from the
polar areas causing the earth's mantle to slide into a whole new stellar
alignment. Such an instanteneous collapse of the earth's core releasing
massive tons of magnetic torque forces upon the mantle should not be
confused with mere polar "wanderings" yes?


Yea, because crustal displacement like that doesn't happen.

You don't have sufficient evidence to say that, and you haven't looked
at the evidence which already does exist.


On top of that we have ice cores that go back over 700,000
years indicating that no crustal displacement has happened
in that time, unlike what many woo woos claim.

You are confusing crustal displacement with ice core samples.




How else other than "instanteneous" polar reversal, where by extreme
pressures cause near next to or instant collapse or "heat" sinking in
some areas and rising in others, could we explain or account for
perfectly preserved (and engineered level tested) or horizontal
artifical structures and ancient masive pyramidal platforms existing
under water off the coast of Japan and Cuba?


There were no pyramidal shapes found at all in either location.

You are either really stupid, or just plain ignorant.

As for the location in Japan, what you don't get told by the woo woo
web sites is that there are similar structures at the surface,

What you get told is what they want you to know. What you choose to
agree with depends on your sanity factor I guess. In your case, I
wouldn't be holding out the sanity award.

with
wave action proving how they were formed.

How utterly despicable of you to write that. There is no such proof
that you suggest, if so provide the links please, otherwise I hear the
nurse is waiting for you outside your padded room.

Even the TV show
were Hancock tries to prove they are man made the geologist
with him says otherwise.

Just like you I suppose, you can prove that there is no such thing as
sunken artifical cities.

The claim for Cuba is even more silly.

Thats why National Geographic is doing a report on it, because of its
silly factor.

So far all they have done is find rocks that might be man
made, but a LOT of closer investigation is needed before
any conclusion can be reached.

Idiots always need "closer investigation" in order to see their own arse.

http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmari.htm



http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...clonezone.html


That article is about trying to clone extinct animals (and btw, it
concludes that it will be impossible).

Duh!




www.teamatlantis.com

Might we add the recent discoveries of sunken structures and cities
found in the Meditteraean and other areas?


Sure, you can add them, but you'd better be ready to support
weird theories with exceptional evidence.

Its you who has the weird theory....er weirder response. Go back and
look at the evidence before you open your stupid arse mouth for all to see.





--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, And Stupid TOO, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors of afa-Dumb-Ass, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com

"Did the Venus transit occur during sunset, idiot?"
- Grant,on the GLP web board, explains to us how
sunrise happens in NY and Asia at the same time.