Chinese State Media Brags of Plan to Establish “Death Star” Moon Base

"A report appearing in the pro-regime China Times brags that China’s
launch of the Long March-3B rocket earlier this week is part of a
long term plan to turn the moon into a Star Wars-style “death star”
from which the PLA could launch missiles against any target on Earth.

It all sounds like something straight out of The Onion, but upon
checking the sources it appears that this is indeed what Communist
Party officials have been discussing this week following China’s
flagship launch of a lunar rover, which is Beijing’s first spacecraft
to land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body."

"Under the headline PLA dreams of turning moon into Death Star, says
expert, the report cites “experts in China” who are wargaming how the
moon, “Can be transformed into a deadly weapon. Like the Death Star
in Star Wars, the moon could hypothetically be used as a military
battle station and ballistic missiles could be launched against any
military target on Earth.”"

See:

http://www.infowars.com/chinese-stat...tar-moon-base/

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"A report appearing in the pro-regime China Times brags that China’s
launch of the Long March-3B rocket earlier this week is part of a
long term plan to turn the moon into a Star Wars-style “death star”
from which the PLA could launch missiles against any target on Earth.

It all sounds like something straight out of The Onion, but upon
checking the sources it appears that this is indeed what Communist
Party officials have been discussing this week following China’s
flagship launch of a lunar rover, which is Beijing’s first spacecraft
to land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body."

"Under the headline PLA dreams of turning moon into Death Star, says
expert, the report cites “experts in China” who are wargaming how the
moon, “Can be transformed into a deadly weapon. Like the Death Star
in Star Wars, the moon could hypothetically be used as a military
battle station and ballistic missiles could be launched against any
military target on Earth.”"


Yeah, that'll work well.

"General! Our satellites have detected a missile launch from the Mao Tse
Tung missile base on the Moon. We believe they're targeting US military
installations around the globe!"

"Captain, please get me an ETA to first impact."

"We estimate 2 days 36 minutes and 30 seconds to 1st impact over Washington
DC."

"Thank you Captain. Please bring us up to Defcon 1. Flush the bombers, get
the subs in launch mode. And get the President on the line. "

"Yes sir."

"Oh in the meantime Captain,I have a response to your move of Queen to
queen's level three. I respond with Queen to king's level one."

"President on the line sir."

"Thank you Captain. Yes Mr. President, we've detected a Chinese missile
launch. Umm, no sir, you don't need to evacuate right away. You've got 2
days or so. I'd suggest you finish your lunch. In the meantime I've
ordered us to DefCon 5. We can take out the Chinese in about 30 minutes and
still have 2 days to figure out what to do with their incoming missiles. I
think they might regret this little war."



See:

http://www.infowars.com/chinese-stat...tar-moon-base/



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Perhaps it was a slow news day in China. Or the journalist was mocking the
great red assed Panda aspirations to conquer space and is soon to be re-educated.

choking on vacuum..................Trig

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:25:02 PM UTC+13, Wrong Stuff wrote:
Perhaps it was a slow news day in China. Or the journalist was mocking the

great red assed Panda aspirations to conquer space and is soon to be re-educated.



choking on vacuum..................Trig

The Chinese are merely noting that the Long March 3 and Long March 2 have greater capacity as the Saturn I and Saturn II rockets and with these rockets they can carry out the declassified Project Horizon or Lunex Project planned by the USA in the 1950s.

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/prorizon.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/lunex.htm

http://www.chinadailyasia.com/focus/...5103017_2.html

A W88 warhead, which was stolen by the Chinese during the Clinton Administration, masses 360 kg requires a total packing of less than 1,200 kg to form a weapons system that reaches the Earth from the lunar surface, this assuming solid rocket boosters.

The W88 warhead is thermonuclear, quite compact, and capable of being dialed through a range of 10 kT to 435 kT. Twenty five 'freighter' flights to the moon could deliver 600 such warheads which would be hidden in regions on the lunar near side and controlled from a satellite at L1.

Surveillance satellites in sunsynchronous polar orbit, in combination with communications satellites in geosynchronous equatorial orbit provides a significant offensive capability using technologies readily available to the Chinese.

http://scientificsoup.files.wordpres...11/asimo-3.jpg
http://www.techdigest.tv/asimo-ed209.jpg
http://www.jp-petit.org/Presse/ARMES...ns/robots1.gif

Consider an advanced remotely controlled drone like Asimo - that masses 36 kg - stored on the moon and launched toward Earth with a 120 kg launch system.

Two hundred and fifty advanced 'freighter' flights to the moon each year permit the deployment of 600,000 such robots. Three million such robots are accumulated on the moon over five years. Larger than any military force on Earth.

The same infrastructure that permits the command and control of 300 nuclear warheads, also permits the command and control of three million robot troops. Operations are semi-autonomous at present, with only 150,000 controllers, in dispersed underground bases within China, providing a significant force multiplier.

The ability to project power without direct loss of human life, the ability to shift share and maintain a robot soldier on duty across many shifts, while those the robot opposes cannot shift duties, also provide qualitative as well as quantitative advantage.

A 36 kg smart pebble array round would also be deployed and be capable of downing any aircraft, sinking any vessel, destroying any ground installation or vehicle, or killing any person in sight of such system. All from the relative safety of the lunar surface.

A hypothetical Chinese attack against the USA would be initiated by the deployment of a lunar base and other satellites described, over a 7 year period. A reason would be found to justify the destruction of all major military installations of the United States using moon based 'clean' nukes with the follow up harassment of national military leadership and remote battle and combat groups with moon based KKVs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...military_bases

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eaders_by_rank

This would likely occur in a single massive strike that would leave the US powerless militarily.

Following up immediately behind the initial salvo would be the deployment of 1.0 million robot troops and drones throughout the USA in combination with another 0.75 million robot troops at all former US military installations, while keeping a reserve of 1.25 million troops to provide a sustained global presence.

This would followed up with a 'peace offensive' which would offer benefits to those who cooperated with the Chinese in America - including politicians and industrialists who would be left in power in a first strike. The olive branch would also be extended to other powers not impacted by the Chinese offensive.

In this way a moon base can be used by the Chinese to gain rapid military dominance over the USA, and avoid what they would see as 'instability' resulting from a prolonged struggle for military power.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:37:59 AM UTC+13, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
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"A report appearing in the pro-regime China Times brags that China�s

launch of the Long March-3B rocket earlier this week is part of a

long term plan to turn the moon into a Star Wars-style �death star�

from which the PLA could launch missiles against any target on Earth.



It all sounds like something straight out of The Onion, but upon

checking the sources it appears that this is indeed what Communist

Party officials have been discussing this week following China�s

flagship launch of a lunar rover, which is Beijing�s first spacecraft

to land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body."



"Under the headline PLA dreams of turning moon into Death Star, says

expert, the report cites �experts in China� who are wargaming how the

moon, �Can be transformed into a deadly weapon. Like the Death Star

in Star Wars, the moon could hypothetically be used as a military

battle station and ballistic missiles could be launched against any

military target on Earth.�"





Yeah, that'll work well.



"General! Our satellites have detected a missile launch from the Mao Tse

Tung missile base on the Moon. We believe they're targeting US military

installations around the globe!"



"Captain, please get me an ETA to first impact."



"We estimate 2 days 36 minutes and 30 seconds to 1st impact over Washington

DC."



"Thank you Captain. Please bring us up to Defcon 1. Flush the bombers, get

the subs in launch mode. And get the President on the line. "



"Yes sir."



"Oh in the meantime Captain,I have a response to your move of Queen to

queen's level three. I respond with Queen to king's level one."



"President on the line sir."



"Thank you Captain. Yes Mr. President, we've detected a Chinese missile

launch. Umm, no sir, you don't need to evacuate right away. You've got 2

days or so. I'd suggest you finish your lunch. In the meantime I've

ordered us to DefCon 5. We can take out the Chinese in about 30 minutes and

still have 2 days to figure out what to do with their incoming missiles. I

think they might regret this little war."







See:



http://www.infowars.com/chinese-stat...tar-moon-base/







--

Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/

CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net

An attack against the Chinese in response to a detected attack as much as 2 days in advance, would guarantee that the incoming weapons would be re-targeted to US population and industrial centers. So, I think it would be the US who would regret such a hasty decision.

I believe given advanced stealth capabilities that such an attack would not be detected until the warheads hit the atmosphere, which would give a warning of only seconds. I also believe it fool-hardy for any aggressor to do anything less than mount an over-whelming first strike. So for these reasons I think the narrative you spin here is foolhardy again. Besides, a commander reporting a first strike would not under those circumstances decide the response.

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:55:31 PM UTC+13, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:37:59 AM UTC+13, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:

wrote in message



...







"A report appearing in the pro-regime China Times brags that China�s



launch of the Long March-3B rocket earlier this week is part of a



long term plan to turn the moon into a Star Wars-style �death star�



from which the PLA could launch missiles against any target on Earth.







It all sounds like something straight out of The Onion, but upon



checking the sources it appears that this is indeed what Communist



Party officials have been discussing this week following China�s



flagship launch of a lunar rover, which is Beijing�s first spacecraft



to land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body."







"Under the headline PLA dreams of turning moon into Death Star, says



expert, the report cites �experts in China� who are wargaming how the



moon, �Can be transformed into a deadly weapon. Like the Death Star



in Star Wars, the moon could hypothetically be used as a military



battle station and ballistic missiles could be launched against any



military target on Earth.�"











Yeah, that'll work well.







"General! Our satellites have detected a missile launch from the Mao Tse



Tung missile base on the Moon. We believe they're targeting US military



installations around the globe!"







"Captain, please get me an ETA to first impact."







"We estimate 2 days 36 minutes and 30 seconds to 1st impact over Washington



DC."







"Thank you Captain. Please bring us up to Defcon 1. Flush the bombers, get



the subs in launch mode. And get the President on the line. "







"Yes sir."







"Oh in the meantime Captain,I have a response to your move of Queen to



queen's level three. I respond with Queen to king's level one."







"President on the line sir."







"Thank you Captain. Yes Mr. President, we've detected a Chinese missile



launch. Umm, no sir, you don't need to evacuate right away. You've got 2



days or so. I'd suggest you finish your lunch. In the meantime I've



ordered us to DefCon 5. We can take out the Chinese in about 30 minutes and



still have 2 days to figure out what to do with their incoming missiles.. I



think they might regret this little war."















See:







http://www.infowars.com/chinese-stat...tar-moon-base/















--



Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/



CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net



An attack against the Chinese in response to a detected attack as much as 2 days in advance, would guarantee that the incoming weapons would be re-targeted to US population and industrial centers. So, I think it would be the US who would regret such a hasty decision.



I believe given advanced stealth capabilities that such an attack would not be detected until the warheads hit the atmosphere, which would give a warning of only seconds. I also believe it fool-hardy for any aggressor to do anything less than mount an over-whelming first strike. So for these reasons I think the narrative you spin here is foolhardy again. Besides, a commander reporting a first strike would not under those circumstances decide the response.

There are also compelling reasons to believe that the weapons systems deployed initially in the 1950s and upgraded extensively in the 1980s, would likely not work as advertised. There were trillions mis-allocated and mis-spent.

Some have estimated that if called upon, only 40% of the weapons would actually work, and only half of those would likely hit their intended target. In comparison, these antiquated US systems would be going up against weapon systems designed in the late 2010s and built and deployed in the early 2020s using best available technologies.

An early and ill-conceived response by the US leadership at that time would likely prove more embarrassing than effective. If so, all the Chinese would have to do in the wake of such an 'offensive' is absorb the lack luster attack fully, strike their initial military targets and during their peace offensive show the horrific effect of the few US weapons that did make it from the USA, and point out how badly the US taxpayer got ripped off for two generations creating such crappy weapons, and have big show trials of US weapons manufacturers, including their management, boards and main stockholders, in combination of forgiveness of US debt and building up the US economy, to build public support in the US for 'freeing the USA from criminal elements that drove it into bankruptcy.' A narrative like that, whether true or not, would in the face of abject defeat build toward a lasting peace with China on top of world affairs thereafter.

On Friday, December 13, 2013 10:48:26 PM UTC-5, William Mook wrote:
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:55:31 PM UTC+13, William Mook wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:37:59 AM UTC+13, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:



wrote in message







...















"A report appearing in the pro-regime China Times brags that China�s







launch of the Long March-3B rocket earlier this week is part of a







long term plan to turn the moon into a Star Wars-style �death star�







from which the PLA could launch missiles against any target on Earth..















It all sounds like something straight out of The Onion, but upon







checking the sources it appears that this is indeed what Communist







Party officials have been discussing this week following China�s







flagship launch of a lunar rover, which is Beijing�s first spacecraft







to land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body."















"Under the headline PLA dreams of turning moon into Death Star, says







expert, the report cites �experts in China� who are wargaming how the







moon, �Can be transformed into a deadly weapon. Like the Death Star







in Star Wars, the moon could hypothetically be used as a military







battle station and ballistic missiles could be launched against any







military target on Earth.�"























Yeah, that'll work well.















"General! Our satellites have detected a missile launch from the Mao Tse







Tung missile base on the Moon. We believe they're targeting US military







installations around the globe!"















"Captain, please get me an ETA to first impact."















"We estimate 2 days 36 minutes and 30 seconds to 1st impact over Washington







DC."















"Thank you Captain. Please bring us up to Defcon 1. Flush the bombers, get







the subs in launch mode. And get the President on the line. "















"Yes sir."















"Oh in the meantime Captain,I have a response to your move of Queen to







queen's level three. I respond with Queen to king's level one."















"President on the line sir."















"Thank you Captain. Yes Mr. President, we've detected a Chinese missile







launch. Umm, no sir, you don't need to evacuate right away. You've got 2







days or so. I'd suggest you finish your lunch. In the meantime I've







ordered us to DefCon 5. We can take out the Chinese in about 30 minutes and







still have 2 days to figure out what to do with their incoming missiles. I







think they might regret this little war."































See:















http://www.infowars.com/chinese-stat...tar-moon-base/































--







Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/







CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net







An attack against the Chinese in response to a detected attack as much as 2 days in advance, would guarantee that the incoming weapons would be re-targeted to US population and industrial centers. So, I think it would be the US who would regret such a hasty decision.







I believe given advanced stealth capabilities that such an attack would not be detected until the warheads hit the atmosphere, which would give a warning of only seconds. I also believe it fool-hardy for any aggressor to do anything less than mount an over-whelming first strike. So for these reasons I think the narrative you spin here is foolhardy again. Besides, a commander reporting a first strike would not under those circumstances decide the response.



There are also compelling reasons to believe that the weapons systems deployed initially in the 1950s and upgraded extensively in the 1980s, would likely not work as advertised. There were trillions mis-allocated and mis-spent.



Some have estimated that if called upon, only 40% of the weapons would actually work, and only half of those would likely hit their intended target. In comparison, these antiquated US systems would be going up against weapon systems designed in the late 2010s and built and deployed in the early 2020s using best available technologies.



An early and ill-conceived response by the US leadership at that time would likely prove more embarrassing than effective. If so, all the Chinese would have to do in the wake of such an 'offensive' is absorb the lack luster attack fully, strike their initial military targets and during their peace offensive show the horrific effect of the few US weapons that did make it from the USA, and point out how badly the US taxpayer got ripped off for two generations creating such crappy weapons, and have big show trials of US weapons manufacturers, including their management, boards and main stockholders, in combination of forgiveness of US debt and building up the US economy, to build public support in the US for 'freeing the USA from criminal elements that drove it into bankruptcy.' A narrative like that, whether true or not, would in the face of abject defeat build toward a lasting peace with China on top of world affairs thereafter.

well even 40% would be enough to wipe out most human life on the earth