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FALLING LIGHT OBEYS NEWTON, NOT EINSTEIN



 
 
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Old September 23rd 13, 06:32 AM posted to sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Default FALLING LIGHT OBEYS NEWTON, NOT EINSTEIN

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"Does gravitational redshift imply gravitation time dilation? The EEP is used to justify that if an observer on the ground shoots a beam of light towards a tower, then when the light reaches the tower, it will be red shifted. This is because of what happens in an accelerating spaceship. The books seem to say this implies time dilation, but I don't completely see why. Could it not just be like any other doppler effect? If I send a sound wave towards you and you are moving towards me, the frequency you observe will be greater than what I send out, but that doesn't mean your clock ticks slower (assume his speed is non-relativistic). Why does it necessarily imply time dilation? In the derivation used to derive this redshift, from the light beam on a spaceship, special relativity doesn't even seem to come into play, just newtonian physics is used."

There is no gravitational time dilation. The analogy with the sound wave is not straightforward but still it suggests that the measured redshift can be due to a shift in the speed of light. In fact, all tests allegedly measuring the gravitational time dilation in fact measure the variation of the speed of light in a gravitational field predicted by Newton's emission theory of light:

http://www.einstein-online.info/spot...t_white_dwarfs
Albert Einstein Institute: "One of the three classical tests for general relativity is the gravitational redshift of light or other forms of electromagnetic radiation. However, in contrast to the other two tests - the gravitational deflection of light and the relativistic perihelion shift -, you do not need general relativity to derive the correct prediction for the gravitational redshift. A combination of Newtonian gravity, a particle theory of light, and the weak equivalence principle (gravitating mass equals inertial mass) suffices. (...) The gravitational redshift was first measured on earth in 1960-65 by Pound, Rebka, and Snider at Harvard University..."

http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its.../dp/0486406768
Banesh Hoffmann: "In an accelerated sky laboratory, and therefore also in the corresponding earth laboratory, the frequence of arrival of light pulses is lower than the ticking rate of the upper clocks even though all the clocks go at the same rate. (...) As a result the experimenter at the ceiling of the sky laboratory will see with his own eyes that the floor clock is going at a slower rate than the ceiling clock - even though, as I have stressed, both are going at the same rate. (...) The gravitational red shift does not arise from changes in the intrinsic rates of clocks. It arises from what befalls light signals as they traverse space and time in the presence of gravitation."

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