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Be sure to watch for the black drop effect, which occurs at about
7:06 a.m. from Washington, DC. This is probably the most interesting transit-related phenomenon. Some authors are calling it "mysterious", but the explanation has been long known. See the first item under "Current News" in the ledt column at http://metaresearch.org. -|Tom|- Tom Van Flandern - Washington, DC - see our web site on replacement astronomy research at http://metaresearch.org |
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Tom Van Flandern wrote: Be sure to watch for the black drop effect, which occurs at about 7:06 a.m. from Washington, DC. This is probably the most interesting transit-related phenomenon. Some authors are calling it "mysterious", but the explanation has been long known. See the first item under "Current News" in the ledt column at http://metaresearch.org. -|Tom|- Check out the images of the Venus transit he http://vt-2004.kva.astro.su.se/ In particular, check the iamge taken at 11:07 UT --- no black drop visible there. These images were taken with the 1-meter Swedish Solar Telescope at La Palma. Canary Islands. This telescope produces the sharpest solar images in the world. Also check the 11:12 and 11:15 UT images carefully: there you can see another phenomenon although faintly: the part of Venus' limb outside the solar disk is visible, due to sunlight refracted in Venus' atmosphere. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Schlyter, Grev Turegatan 40, SE-114 38 Stockholm, SWEDEN e-mail: pausch at stockholm dot bostream dot se WWW: http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/ http://home.tiscali.se/pausch/ |
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Paul Schlyter wrote:
Check out the images of the Venus transit he http://vt-2004.kva.astro.su.se/ In particular, check the iamge taken at 11:07 UT --- no black drop visible there. I don't see any teardrops either. Must be an artifact of the human eye. I don't think any pro astronomers ever look thru a telescope to do any real science anymore. And if they did, it's probably just to make sure the scope is ready to photograph it. These images were taken with the 1-meter Swedish Solar Telescope at La Palma. Canary Islands. This telescope produces the sharpest solar images in the world. Also check the 11:12 and 11:15 UT images carefully: there you can see another phenomenon although faintly: the part of Venus' limb outside the solar disk is visible, due to sunlight refracted in Venus' atmosphere. |
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Robert Casey wrote: In particular, check the iamge taken at 11:07 UT --- no black drop visible there. I don't see any teardrops either. Must be an artifact of the human eye. No, it has been photographed during transits of Mercury (which also proves that it is not a result of Venus's atmosphere). -- "Think outside the box -- the box isn't our friend." | Henry Spencer -- George Herbert | |
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Henry Spencer wrote: In article , Robert Casey wrote: In particular, check the iamge taken at 11:07 UT --- no black drop visible there. I don't see any teardrops either. Must be an artifact of the human eye. No, it has been photographed during transits of Mercury (which also proves that it is not a result of Venus's atmosphere). The Black Drop is an effect of how our eyes perceive when two unsharp edges between bright and dark approach one another. It can be readily simulated by keeping two of your fingers as close to your eye as you can and then let the fingers approach one another: they seem to touch before they actually touch. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Schlyter, Grev Turegatan 40, SE-114 38 Stockholm, SWEDEN e-mail: pausch at stockholm dot bostream dot se WWW: http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/ http://home.tiscali.se/pausch/ |
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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 03:49:59 +0000, Henry Spencer wrote:
In article , Robert Casey wrote: In particular, check the iamge taken at 11:07 UT --- no black drop visible there. I don't see any teardrops either. Must be an artifact of the human eye. No, it has been photographed during transits of Mercury (which also proves that it is not a result of Venus's atmosphere). I saw a photo of it yesterday on someone's web site. |
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![]() "Paul Schlyter" wrote in message ... The Black Drop is an effect of how our eyes perceive when two unsharp edges between bright and dark approach one another. It can be readily simulated by keeping two of your fingers as close to your eye as you can and then let the fingers approach one another: they seem to touch before they actually touch. is that the same thing as seeing the drop effect in front of the sun? somebody else explained on here, i think it was at metaresearch.org or something, that it is due to moving cells of air in the atmosphere. rj |
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randyj wrote:
"Paul Schlyter" wrote in message ... The Black Drop is an effect of how our eyes perceive when two unsharp edges between bright and dark approach one another. It can be readily simulated by keeping two of your fingers as close to your eye as you can and then let the fingers approach one another: they seem to touch before they actually touch. is that the same thing as seeing the drop effect in front of the sun? somebody else explained on here, i think it was at metaresearch.org or something, that it is due to moving cells of air in the atmosphere. rj I haven't read that particular explanation, but if you check what else is on the site, it's probably a load of *****. DaveL |
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![]() Tom Randy wrote: On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 03:49:59 +0000, Henry Spencer wrote: In article , Robert Casey wrote: In particular, check the iamge taken at 11:07 UT --- no black drop visible there. I don't see any teardrops either. Must be an artifact of the human eye. No, it has been photographed during transits of Mercury (which also proves that it is not a result of Venus's atmosphere). I saw a photo of it yesterday on someone's web site. As did I. Not everyone captured the effect, but it can be captured on film. SWAG: an atmospheric effect? -- Pat O'Connell [note munged EMail address] Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, Kill nothing but vandals... |
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In article ,
randyj wrote: "Paul Schlyter" wrote in message ... The Black Drop is an effect of how our eyes perceive when two unsharp edges between bright and dark approach one another. It can be readily simulated by keeping two of your fingers as close to your eye as you can and then let the fingers approach one another: they seem to touch before they actually touch. is that the same thing as seeing the drop effect in front of the sun? somebody else explained on here, i think it was at metaresearch.org or something, that it is due to moving cells of air in the atmosphere. Well, these moving cells do increase the fuzziness of the limbs of the Sun and of Venus... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Schlyter, Grev Turegatan 40, SE-114 38 Stockholm, SWEDEN e-mail: pausch at stockholm dot bostream dot se WWW: http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/ http://home.tiscali.se/pausch/ |
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