A Video Tour of SpaceX Facility by Musk himself

On Jun 3, 7:47*pm, "jonathan" wrote:
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On 03/06/2012 23:11, jonathan wrote:
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When he claims he can put a man on Mars in
ten years, it's almost believable after watching
this video.

It took Musk 10 years to get a remote controlled capsule to the
International Space Station.

A related question is "Can modern NASA land a man on the Moon within 8
years?"

NASA isn't going to the Moon or Mars.

Being that we still don't seem to have any viable fly-by-rocket
landers, that's a safe assumption that Mars and our moon are not going
to be directly walked upon any time soon.

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On Jun 4, 7:26*am, bob haller wrote:
NASA isn't going to the Moon or Mars.

no but musk can and no doubt will

And at most 10% the cost.

On Jun 5, 7:58*am, Andrew Swallow wrote:
On 04/06/2012 03:47, jonathan wrote:









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On 03/06/2012 23:11, jonathan wrote:
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When he claims he can put a man on Mars in
ten years, it's almost believable after watching
this video.

It took Musk 10 years to get a remote controlled capsule to the
International Space Station.

A related question is "Can modern NASA land a man on the Moon within 8
years?"

NASA isn't going to the Moon or Mars.

Do not be too certain about that. *NASA is developing landers, manned
rovers and space habitats. *The current ones only work on the Earth but
given a large grant they could be upgraded.

Andrew Swallow

They've had decades to up-scale those Apollo landers, and they
couldn't manage to pull off one prototype.

On Jun 6, 3:34*am, "dott.Piergiorgio" wrote:
Il 05/06/2012 16:58, Andrew Swallow ha scritto:

A related question is "Can modern NASA land a man on the Moon within 8
years?"

NASA isn't going to the Moon or Mars.

Do not be too certain about that. NASA is developing landers, manned
rovers and space habitats. The current ones only work on the Earth but
given a large grant they could be upgraded.

As I pointed, my model on space development is that America should known
better; that used by Spain, France England &c. from XVth century; NASA
(and state agencies in general) should have the trailblazer role, not
only in exploration, but also technologically (after all, Columbus's
carracks, esp. the Niña, gets many A&A's...) as the crown-financed
explorated expedition; then some really daring private ventures start to
invest in space activities, even manned ones (on the daring nature of
the venture, I must point to the fully incorporated name of the
financiers of the Pilgrims: London society of *ADVENTURERS* , the last
word explain all; they have put their capital in an "profit or failure"
venture. this is the core issue; today's capitalism is too centered on
excel and powerpoint and the very nature of capitalism (the rewards
being proportional to the risks) is, IMVHO, hopelessy lost.

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

Our NASA and DARPA no longer have a box to look or think outside of,
much less to accomplishing anything outside of their mainstream status
quo box of being public funded and thus maintain their failsafe job
security.

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Andrew Swallow

They've had decades to up-scale those Apollo landers, and they
couldn't manage to pull off one prototype.

low cost to orbit will make everything more affordable.

might be self funded

the first manned flight to mars.......

Goes with the GM station The rolls royce lander The twin rovers,
XXX& XXX working from the very first station called XXX.

The news reporter writer onboard sends on the scene reports daily
and the winner of the lottery to go helped raise a billion for the
trip

Wonder how much advertising, licensing etc money could be raised?