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On Oct 8, 8:01*pm, Mike Collins wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1007103227.htm The smart money is already in troglodyte and SPF1000 futures. The _Arctic_ ozone hole broke all records this year. Nobody knows why but it will get much worse over the next half century. It's no longer only about the few, easily forgotten foreigners who live "down under." Now it becomes "us" and "we" and "why the hell isn't anybody doing something about this?" |
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![]() "Chris.B" wrote: The smart money is already in troglodyte and SPF1000 futures. The _Arctic_ ozone hole broke all records this year. Nobody knows why but it will get much worse over the next half century. Ummm, it was "caused by an unusually prolonged period of extremely low temperatures in the stratosphere" - ref: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cf...lease_2011-308 |
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On Oct 10, 1:31*pm, "spica" wrote:
Ummm, it was "caused by an unusually prolonged period of extremely low temperatures in the stratosphere" - ref:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news..c...cid=release_20... ![]() stratospheric temperatures and their extended period. I was referring to the lack of understanding as to the likely cause. (I am merely quoting the DMI here) I wonder if there are any parallels here with the reported reduction in solar UV. Which has now been blamed for the long hard winters in northern Europe over the last two years. Probably just coincidence but our star seems to be suffering from unexpected variability just as we put it under the "microscope." (so to speak) I'd hate to be accused of using the incorrect instrument with so many pedants around these days. ![]() |
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Isn't the effect amazing where the growth and disappearance of ice
responds solely to the orbital behavior of the Earth and its polar daylight/darkness cycle. http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/02/25/0...XA-02-2010.jpg I believe there are some individuals who continue to believe the Earth 'tilts' towards and away from the Sun to cause the volume of ice to grow and shrink however the actual cause is that the polar coordinates travel in roughly a 10,000 mile circle about a traveling orbital axis that stretches through the center of the Earth from Arctic to Antarctic circles. For those who are doing a wonderful job ignoring the observational certainty it is only a matter of time before the value given above starts to appear as people start to see the orbital trait emerge as the polar coordinates turn to the central Sun rather than 'tilt' to it - http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg |
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oriel36 wrote:
Isn't the effect amazing where the growth and disappearance of ice responds solely to the orbital behavior of the Earth and its polar daylight/darkness cycle. http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/02/25/0...XA-02-2010.jpg I believe there are some individuals who continue to believe the Earth 'tilts' towards and away from the Sun to cause the volume of ice to grow and shrink however the actual cause is that the polar coordinates travel in roughly a 10,000 mile circle about a traveling orbital axis that stretches through the center of the Earth from Arctic to Antarctic circles. For those who are doing a wonderful job ignoring the observational certainty it is only a matter of time before the value given above starts to appear as people start to see the orbital trait emerge as the polar coordinates turn to the central Sun rather than 'tilt' to it - http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg You forgot about the ice ages. Something more than rotation and seasons. |
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On Oct 10, 9:35*pm, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote: Isn't the effect amazing where the growth and disappearance of ice responds solely to the orbital behavior of the Earth and its polar daylight/darkness cycle. http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/02/25/0...XA-02-2010.jpg I believe there are some individuals who continue to believe the Earth 'tilts' towards and away from the Sun to cause the volume of ice to grow and shrink however the actual cause is that the polar coordinates travel in roughly a 10,000 mile circle about a traveling orbital axis that stretches through the center of the Earth from Arctic to Antarctic circles. For those who are doing a wonderful job ignoring the observational certainty it is only a matter of time before the value given above starts to appear as people start to see the orbital trait emerge as the polar coordinates turn to the central Sun rather than 'tilt' to it - http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg You forgot about the ice ages. Something more than rotation and seasons. Are you not curios where the framework which contains the 4 angles of Penrose tiling takes you in terms of natural efficiency ? - http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...991fc58f308863 http://www.scienceu.com/geometry/art...g/penrose.html For those who love the language of geometry as it applies to all physical sciences be they terrestrial or celestial that is quite an extraordinary arrangement and the most satisfying aspect is that the framework did not originate with me. Another snippet of information from the framework - 288 degrees minus 108 degrees = 180 degrees. Extracting the orbital motion of the Earth from ice growth/ disappearance at the polar coordinates is no big thing when it is possible to see the Earth from space and especially the replacement of 'tilt' as a cause and the focus of the Earth's single daylight/ darkness cycle arising from the orbital behavior of the Earth so that the polar coordinates act like a beacon in their 10366 mile journey with respect to the central Sun. Modifications to orbital geometries on a scale like this only comes along rarely although I can already see other modifications ahead when the solar system's galactic orbital motion and direction is grafted in.Pity that I can't get a person to read the rotation of the Earth from a daily temperature index nor orbital motion from sea ice fluctuations so you can forget greater cycles which hold the key to greater motions and effects whatever they may be such as ice ages. Again interpretation is far better in the long run that speculation/ predictions for hopping from geology to chemistry to climate studies and on to many different areas give rise to such ideas as plate tectonics and the opposition to that wonderful perspective looks just as quaint as opposition to the orbital daylight/darkness cycle and its orbital cause looks now - http://courses.science.fau.edu/~rjor...ER/wegener.htm It is not opposition but people need time to retrace their own path to the same conclusions and there are so many good ones to make that I couldn't even be bothered listening to dismal minds who just do not want to participate in discovery and the real challenges that journey entails. |
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On Oct 10, 10:01*pm, Oh.o'Kelleher raved:
entails. Yo, Oriel! Just had an email from some guy calling himself . It says... "If your buddy, Oriel, ain't using the brain my Dad gave him... could y'all return it to sender?" It's signed "Love and Peace" so y'all s'pose it could be genuine? Your call, buddy! spit |
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On Oct 8, 11:01*am, Mike Collins wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1007103227.htm We're way past due for another round of extinctions, and as of a good thousand years ago we should have been headed back into another deep freeze. Of course Sirius(B) didn't exactly help us as of roughly 65 million years ago when it suddenly became a white dwarf, not to mention of the 200+ million years before that when those Sirius A/B/C stars (C possibly being a red dwarf that didn't survive upon merging with Sirius A or B) were initially created from a molecular/nebula cloud of perhaps 2.5e37 kg that likely surrounded us. Wouldn't it be funny if Sirius(C) as a monstrous star had turned itself into a rogue NS or BH. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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