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Old October 8th 11, 07:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1007103227.htm
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Old October 8th 11, 08:03 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Oct 8, 8:01*pm, Mike Collins wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1007103227.htm


The smart money is already in troglodyte and SPF1000 futures. The
_Arctic_ ozone hole broke all records this year. Nobody knows why but
it will get much worse over the next half century. It's no longer only
about the few, easily forgotten foreigners who live "down under." Now
it becomes "us" and "we" and "why the hell isn't anybody doing
something about this?"
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Old October 10th 11, 12:31 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Chris.B" wrote:

The smart money is already in troglodyte and SPF1000 futures. The
_Arctic_ ozone hole broke all records this year. Nobody knows why but
it will get much worse over the next half century.


Ummm, it was "caused by an unusually prolonged period of extremely low
temperatures in the stratosphere" - ref:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cf...lease_2011-308




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Old October 10th 11, 03:48 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Oct 10, 1:31*pm, "spica" wrote:

Ummm, it was "caused by an unusually prolonged period of extremely low
temperatures in the stratosphere" - ref:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news..c...cid=release_20...


No doubt, but I wasn't referring to the unusually low,
stratospheric temperatures and their extended period. I was referring
to the lack of understanding as to the likely cause. (I am merely
quoting the DMI here) I wonder if there are any parallels here with
the reported reduction in solar UV. Which has now been blamed for the
long hard winters in northern Europe over the last two years. Probably
just coincidence but our star seems to be suffering from unexpected
variability just as we put it under the "microscope." (so to speak)
I'd hate to be accused of using the incorrect instrument with so many
pedants around these days.
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Old October 10th 11, 07:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Isn't the effect amazing where the growth and disappearance of ice
responds solely to the orbital behavior of the Earth and its polar
daylight/darkness cycle.

http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/02/25/0...XA-02-2010.jpg

I believe there are some individuals who continue to believe the Earth
'tilts' towards and away from the Sun to cause the volume of ice to
grow and shrink however the actual cause is that the polar coordinates
travel in roughly a 10,000 mile circle about a traveling orbital axis
that stretches through the center of the Earth from Arctic to
Antarctic circles.

For those who are doing a wonderful job ignoring the observational
certainty it is only a matter of time before the value given above
starts to appear as people start to see the orbital trait emerge as
the polar coordinates turn to the central Sun rather than 'tilt' to it
-

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

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Old October 10th 11, 08:35 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:
Isn't the effect amazing where the growth and disappearance of ice
responds solely to the orbital behavior of the Earth and its polar
daylight/darkness cycle.

http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/02/25/0...XA-02-2010.jpg

I believe there are some individuals who continue to believe the Earth
'tilts' towards and away from the Sun to cause the volume of ice to
grow and shrink however the actual cause is that the polar coordinates
travel in roughly a 10,000 mile circle about a traveling orbital axis
that stretches through the center of the Earth from Arctic to
Antarctic circles.

For those who are doing a wonderful job ignoring the observational
certainty it is only a matter of time before the value given above
starts to appear as people start to see the orbital trait emerge as
the polar coordinates turn to the central Sun rather than 'tilt' to it
-

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg


You forgot about the ice ages.
Something more than rotation and seasons.
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Old October 10th 11, 09:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Oct 10, 9:35*pm, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
Isn't the effect amazing where the growth and disappearance of ice
responds solely to the orbital behavior of the Earth and its polar
daylight/darkness cycle.


http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/02/25/0...XA-02-2010.jpg


I believe there are some individuals who continue to believe the Earth
'tilts' towards and away from the Sun to cause the volume of ice to
grow and shrink however the actual cause is that the polar coordinates
travel in roughly a 10,000 mile circle about a traveling orbital axis
that stretches through the center of the Earth from Arctic to
Antarctic circles.


For those who are doing a wonderful job ignoring the observational
certainty it is only a matter of time before the value given above
starts to appear as people start to see the orbital trait emerge as
the polar coordinates turn to the central Sun rather than 'tilt' to it
-


http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg


You forgot about the ice ages.
Something more than rotation and seasons.


Are you not curios where the framework which contains the 4 angles of
Penrose tiling takes you in terms of natural efficiency ? -

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...991fc58f308863

http://www.scienceu.com/geometry/art...g/penrose.html

For those who love the language of geometry as it applies to all
physical sciences be they terrestrial or celestial that is quite an
extraordinary arrangement and the most satisfying aspect is that the
framework did not originate with me.

Another snippet of information from the framework - 288 degrees minus
108 degrees = 180 degrees.

Extracting the orbital motion of the Earth from ice growth/
disappearance at the polar coordinates is no big thing when it is
possible to see the Earth from space and especially the replacement
of 'tilt' as a cause and the focus of the Earth's single daylight/
darkness cycle arising from the orbital behavior of the Earth so that
the polar coordinates act like a beacon in their 10366 mile journey
with respect to the central Sun.

Modifications to orbital geometries on a scale like this only comes
along rarely although I can already see other modifications ahead when
the solar system's galactic orbital motion and direction is grafted
in.Pity that I can't get a person to read the rotation of the Earth
from a daily temperature index nor orbital motion from sea ice
fluctuations so you can forget greater cycles which hold the key to
greater motions and effects whatever they may be such as ice ages.

Again interpretation is far better in the long run that speculation/
predictions for hopping from geology to chemistry to climate studies
and on to many different areas give rise to such ideas as plate
tectonics and the opposition to that wonderful perspective looks just
as quaint as opposition to the orbital daylight/darkness cycle and its
orbital cause looks now -

http://courses.science.fau.edu/~rjor...ER/wegener.htm

It is not opposition but people need time to retrace their own path to
the same conclusions and there are so many good ones to make that I
couldn't even be bothered listening to dismal minds who just do not
want to participate in discovery and the real challenges that journey
entails.



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Old October 11th 11, 09:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Oct 10, 10:01*pm, Oh.o'Kelleher raved:
entails.


Yo, Oriel! Just had an email from some guy calling himself
.

It says... "If your buddy, Oriel, ain't using the brain my Dad gave
him... could y'all return it to sender?"

It's signed "Love and Peace" so y'all s'pose it could be genuine?

Your call, buddy!

spit
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Old October 12th 11, 10:12 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Oct 8, 11:01*am, Mike Collins wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1007103227.htm


We're way past due for another round of extinctions, and as of a good
thousand years ago we should have been headed back into another deep
freeze.

Of course Sirius(B) didn't exactly help us as of roughly 65 million
years ago when it suddenly became a white dwarf, not to mention of the
200+ million years before that when those Sirius A/B/C stars (C
possibly being a red dwarf that didn't survive upon merging with
Sirius A or B) were initially created from a molecular/nebula cloud of
perhaps 2.5e37 kg that likely surrounded us.

Wouldn't it be funny if Sirius(C) as a monstrous star had turned
itself into a rogue NS or BH.

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