Kids paradox

On Apr 13, 7:25 am, Vilas Tamhane wrote:

Bob goes on a voyage and speed and distance are so adjusted that his
10 years are 6 years for Dave. Durations of accelerations are not
counted.

There are only two possibilities,
1. Bob returns younger by 4 years.
2. Both are aged by 10 years.

Which of the possibility is true?

In real life there are actually three possibilities:

1) Bob returns younger than Dave.
2) Bob returns older than Dave.
3) Bob returns with same age as Dave.

If either 1) or 2) is true, then the absolute frame of reference must
exist. In doing so, the principle of relativity is not valid in
general, and SR must be wrong. If 3) is true, then perhaps the
principle of relativity will hold. shrug

In the ****ed logic of SR, there is only one predicted, illogical
outcome.

4) Bob returns younger and old than Dave.

The idiots who worship SR then spin a ludicrous conclusion in 1) in
which it has nothing to do with SR. These idiots never have
understood SR. shrug

The following sums them up on how they have practiced physics in the
past 100 years.

** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS

shrug

On 4/13/11 7:57 PM, Koobee Wublee wrote:
In real life there are actually three possibilities:

1) Bob returns younger than Dave.
2) Bob returns older than Dave.
3) Bob returns with same age as Dave.

The Twin Paradox for the Koobee and Wublee twins
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/rel...section15.html
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/rel...notes/twin.gif

this is an incredibly simple problem,
as you know, involving only teh relative motion
WRT the speed of lightwaves (not the velocity
of Newton's untheory of photons). that is to say,
you are beating a horse that now likes it;
neigh?

there are no photons, perhaps "because"
their is no absolute vacuum of Pascal and
teh Copenhagenskooler mystics of Schroedinger's silly,
put-upon & very wry cat.

On Apr 13, 8:57*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Apr 13, 7:25 am, Vilas Tamhane wrote:

Bob goes on a voyage and speed and distance are so adjusted that his
10 years are 6 years for Dave.
This is a question that has no answer. The reason is that your
qualifier is entirely unphysical.
Durations of accelerations are not
counted.
You have to count accelerations. The two can not get together
again unless at least one of them accelerates. Dismissing the
acceleration makes the problem entirely unphysical.
I think you have crossed over from ignorance into dishonesty.