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Old September 11th 03, 09:32 PM
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:50:09 -0700, Mike Dicenso
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You quit watching DS9 just because of that ONE episode!? Isn't that just
atiny bit over-reactionary? Did you stop watching TOS because of silly
episodes like "Miri", and "The Omega Glory"?


...Actually, "The Omega Glory" isn't *that* bad of an episode when you
strip out the patriotic elements (*). On the other hand, when you do,
you wind up with "Star Trek: Insurrection".

(*) Then again, I *loved* the patriotic elements. Go figure.



The only things I found worthwhile about that episode is the opening
scenes on the U.S.S. Exeter (beautiful FX for the time of the Enterprise
and Exeter in orbit together), and Morgan Woodward's superb performance as
Captain Ron Tracey (it's truely chilling when he describes how he and his
men killed thousands apon thousands of Yangs with just four phasers!).
-Mike
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Old September 11th 03, 11:21 PM
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:32:52 -0700, Mike Dicenso
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The only things I found worthwhile about that episode is the opening
scenes on the U.S.S. Exeter (beautiful FX for the time of the Enterprise
and Exeter in orbit together), and Morgan Woodward's superb performance as
Captain Ron Tracey (it's truely chilling when he describes how he and his
men killed thousands apon thousands of Yangs with just four phasers!).


....And when you realize who the "Yangs" are(*) this line is given an
even greater patriotic impact *and* a bit of irony. One of the tactics
Mao used against both the Japs and the Nationalists was that only the
front line of the advance was armed. The lines behind laid lower, and
when the first lines fell - as they always did - the second line
picked up the arms of the fallen and advanced forward. The implication
here is that the "Yangs" adopted this tactic quite successfully.

(*) The original script had them as "Meraks", but later on someone
realized that this would have been a *bit* too obvious when the final
revelation showed up. "Yang" also sounds a bit oriental in tone, and
the fact that the "Koms" were all oriental added to the veiling of the
McGuffin. If you come across the booklet for the View Master reels
that were from this episode, you get this script instead of what was
aired.

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)



OM

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Old September 12th 03, 06:14 AM
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)


Actually that was the 3' model photographed alongside an 18"
commercially available AMT model. You can tell this because the ship in
the background (the 3' model is in the foreground in glorious detail) has
no paint job, decal markings, and most importantly there are no
hemispheres on the nacelle cowlings.
-Mike
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Old September 12th 03, 08:40 AM
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:14:47 -0700, Mike Dicenso
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)


Actually that was the 3' model photographed alongside an 18"
commercially available AMT model. You can tell this because the ship in
the background (the 3' model is in the foreground in glorious detail) has
no paint job, decal markings, and most importantly there are no
hemispheres on the nacelle cowlings.


....I need to see that image again. It's been about 35 years :-(


OM

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Old September 13th 03, 12:15 AM
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:14:47 -0700, Mike Dicenso
wrote:



On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)


Actually that was the 3' model photographed alongside an 18"
commercially available AMT model. You can tell this because the ship in
the background (the 3' model is in the foreground in glorious detail) has
no paint job, decal markings, and most importantly there are no
hemispheres on the nacelle cowlings.


...I need to see that image again. It's been about 35 years :-(


I still have mine buried somewhere in storage along with the GAF version
of SPACE:1999's "Wargames".
-Mike
 




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