A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Astronomy and Astrophysics » Astronomy Misc
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

CONSERVAPEDIA: COUNTEREXAMPLES TO RELATIVITY



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old August 21st 10, 03:52 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
Peter Webb[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 927
Default CONSERVAPEDIA: COUNTEREXAMPLES TO RELATIVITY



| | Check it out, dumb****:
| | http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
| |
| |
| | Brilliant paper.
|
| Just love those "imaginary physical experiments", particularly if the
| experiment was designed by an imaginary patent clerk and the results
were
| published in imaginary peer reviewed journal.
| So there is no such independent evidence?
| So this is a bit like "imagine the moon is made of cheese" ?
|
|
| Ummm ... you want independent evidence that the theory of Relativity is
| correct?

Yes.

| That's been posted many times.

"in agreement with experience we further assume the quantity 2AB/(t'A-tA)
=
c"
This is a bit like
"in agreement with experience we further assume the moon is made of
cheese".


No, by that time the constancy of the speed of light was known
experimentally, and this is what Einstein is alluding to.

But you do understand that is a premise of Relativity as well as a
consequence of its maths?

You want independent evidence that the moon is made of cheese is correct?
That's been posted many times.
http://tinyurl.com/3aaguna
Brilliant independent evidence.


That contains no evidence.


|
|
|
| | But it doesn't show that the photon has a non-zero rest mass. In
fact
| the
| | exact opposite.
|
| It imagines a photon's velocity is 2AB/(0).
|
|
|
| |
| | Perhaps you didn't understand it?
|
| Not really. How far is it from A to A and how long does it take to get
| there?
| This is a bit like "imagine the moon is made of cheese".
|
| |
| | It is a very well known paper. Any bits you don't understand, just
ask
| and
| | there are lots of people who can help.
|
| I'm asking you.
| How far is it from A to A and how long does it take to get there?
|
No answer was the stern reply.

How far is it from A to A and how long does it take to get there,
brilliant
****head?


Zero time, and it is zero distance.

Now, you were going to say what? About L'Hopital's rule? Come on, I doubt
you even know what it means, its clearly not relevant, but spit it out ...
if you can.



|
| You might start off with the bit of
| | the paper that makes you think the photon has non-zero rest mass ...
a
| very
| | odd misunderstanding!
| |
| Point that bit out to me, I missed it, the paper is so brilliant it
blinds
| me to look at it.
|
|
| You were the person who cited this paper as evidence that the photon had
| non-zero rest mass.

In your imagination.
Do you know what "imagine" means, you ignorant ****ing bigot?
You were the cretin that brought up moon cheese.


It means to make up things that aren't true?

Doesn't sound like much of a way to establish scientific principles.

Lets imagine Unicorn's exist. If they did, do you think they could be
trained to perform tricks in circuses?



| Now you say you can't find this statement in the paper.
| Nor can I. So, have you got any reason to believe that the photob has
| non-zero rest mass, or is that just some cranky belief you hold for no
| reason apparent to even yourself?

Do your photobs have a bed to rest in or were you imagining photobs have
rest mass, or is that just some cranky belief you hold for no
reason apparent to even yourself?
So this is a bit like "in agreement with experience we further assume the
quantity 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c" ?
So there is no such independent evidence?


Independence evidence of what?

That the formula for velocity is given by v = d/t, or that light speed is a
constant?

For the latter, this had been established by several experiments by the time
of Einstein, and far more problematically was a direct consequence of
Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism ... hence the title of Einstein's
paper.

If you accept that Maxwell's equations are correct, then you have to accept
that the speed of light is a constant. This is a direct consequence of this
theory, known well before Einstein wrote his paper.

If you don't believe that c is a constant, then your problem is with
Maxwell, not Einstein.

Know mich about Maxwell's equations, do you?





 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GENERAL RELATIVITY WITHOUT SPECIAL RELATIVITY Pentcho Valev Astronomy Misc 12 January 1st 09 03:20 PM
DO RELATIVITY ZOMBIES UNDERSTAND RELATIVITY HYPNOTISTS? Pentcho Valev Astronomy Misc 12 June 5th 07 12:14 AM
Relativity entity Misc 10 August 19th 04 11:37 AM
Relativity FAQ Nathan Jones Misc 4 December 9th 03 11:17 AM
Relativity FAQ Nathan Jones Astronomy Misc 3 December 8th 03 05:23 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.