Post Shuttle: What will be left of NASA ?

When I look at all of the "PR" infrastructure NASA has with its NASA TV,
so many web sites, images galleries etc, what will be left after the
shuttle's last flight ?

Will the shuttle web sites remain as they are, or will they be rewritten
as a "fixed" historical "reader's digest" version ?

Or the remaining projects, which ones are we likely to hear about in
mainstream media ? Any unmanned missions of interest coming up beyond 2010 ?

With that Ares thing cancelled, what happens to the launchpads ? With
the semi-cannabalised one remain as it, not good for any type of launch
? Will the remaining shuttle pad be preserved/maintained or just left to
rot because it is likely to be totally rebuilt should the USA start a
new manned programme in the decades to follow ?

Apart from public/tourist tours of the facility, what other operations
will remain alive at KSC ? Will there be any station operations left ?
With the loss of ability to launch any major component to the station,
is the KSC station processing facility going to be of any use ? Or would
the small spare parts that can be sent via progress/atv/htv be
prepared/tested elsewhere ?


Will there be any need to train astronauts at KSC or will they get their
training in Moscow and Baikonur ?

On Apr 5, 2:53�am, John Doe wrote:
When I look at all of the "PR" infrastructure NASA has with its NASA TV,
so many web sites, images galleries etc, what will be left after the
shuttle's last flight ?

Will the shuttle web sites remain as they are, or will they be rewritten
as a "fixed" historical "reader's digest" version ?

Or the remaining projects, which ones are we likely to hear about in
mainstream media ? Any unmanned missions of interest coming up beyond 2010 ?

With that Ares thing cancelled, what happens to the launchpads ? With
the semi-cannabalised one remain as it, not good for any type of launch
? Will the remaining shuttle pad be preserved/maintained or just left to
rot because it is likely to be totally rebuilt should the USA start a
new manned programme in the decades to follow ?

Apart from public/tourist tours of the facility, what other operations
will remain alive at KSC ? Will there be any station operations left ?
With the loss of ability to launch any major component to the station,
is the KSC station processing facility going to be of any use ? Or would
the small spare parts that can be sent via progress/atv/htv be
prepared/tested elsewhere ?

Will there be any need to train astronauts at KSC or will they get their
training in Moscow and Baikonur ?

Unless obama admin changes its mind not much will be left of nasa
manned space.

I hope KSC gets a facelift, and be maintained as a historical
monument.

39A & B woud be awesome tourist draws.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT), bob haller safety advocate
puked:

On Apr 5, 2:53?am, John Doe wrote:
When I look at all of the "PR" infrastructure NASA has with its NASA TV,
so many web sites, images galleries etc, what will be left after the
shuttle's last flight ?

Will the shuttle web sites remain as they are, or will they be rewritten
as a "fixed" historical "reader's digest" version ?

Or the remaining projects, which ones are we likely to hear about in
mainstream media ? Any unmanned missions of interest coming up beyond 2010 ?

With that Ares thing cancelled, what happens to the launchpads ? With
the semi-cannabalised one remain as it, not good for any type of launch
? Will the remaining shuttle pad be preserved/maintained or just left to
rot because it is likely to be totally rebuilt should the USA start a
new manned programme in the decades to follow ?

Apart from public/tourist tours of the facility, what other operations
will remain alive at KSC ? Will there be any station operations left ?
With the loss of ability to launch any major component to the station,
is the KSC station processing facility going to be of any use ? Or would
the small spare parts that can be sent via progress/atv/htv be
prepared/tested elsewhere ?

Will there be any need to train astronauts at KSC or will they get their
training in Moscow and Baikonur ?

Unless obama admin changes its mind not much will be left of nasa
manned space.

I hope KSC gets a facelift, and be maintained as a historical
monument.

39A & B woud be awesome tourist draws.

I don't know how true that is. I live in FL and have been to the cape
a number of times and enjoyed it, but I was born in '64 and my
formative years revolved around the space program. I have kids in
elementary school and I try to get them interested, but to them it's
like when my great grandmother tried to point out airplanes to me.

I try to take them out to see a shuttle launch from the front yard and
they couldn't care less about it. I guess it's the culture of modern
movies that make them think there's nothing fascinating about
spaceflight. I'm afraid that it's gonna be lost on a generation if we
don't do something big, like the moon or even Mars. Kids don't get
that excited about robots shooting through space, and I think that
mentality would hurt the cape as a tourist draw...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

On Apr 7, 3:34�pm, "lab~rat :-)" wrote:
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT), bob haller safety advocate
puked:





On Apr 5, 2:53?am, John Doe wrote:
When I look at all of the "PR" infrastructure NASA has with its NASA TV,
so many web sites, images galleries etc, what will be left after the
shuttle's last flight ?

Will the shuttle web sites remain as they are, or will they be rewritten
as a "fixed" historical "reader's digest" version ?

Or the remaining projects, which ones are we likely to hear about in
mainstream media ? Any unmanned missions of interest coming up beyond 2010 ?

With that Ares thing cancelled, what happens to the launchpads ? With
the semi-cannabalised one remain as it, not good for any type of launch
? Will the remaining shuttle pad be preserved/maintained or just left to
rot because it is likely to be totally rebuilt should the USA start a
new manned programme in the decades to follow ?

Apart from public/tourist tours of the facility, what other operations
will remain alive at KSC ? Will there be any station operations left ?
With the loss of ability to launch any major component to the station,
is the KSC station processing facility going to be of any use ? Or would
the small spare parts that can be sent via progress/atv/htv be
prepared/tested elsewhere ?

Will there be any need to train astronauts at KSC or will they get their
training in Moscow and Baikonur ?

Unless obama admin changes its mind not much will be left of nasa
manned space.

I hope KSC gets a facelift, and be maintained as a historical
monument.

39A & B woud be awesome tourist draws.

I don't know how true that is. �I live in FL and have been to the cape
a number of times and enjoyed it, but I was born in '64 and my
formative years revolved around the space program. �I have kids in
elementary school and I try to get them interested, but to them it's
like when my great grandmother tried to point out airplanes to me.

I try to take them out to see a shuttle launch from the front yard and
they couldn't care less about it. �I guess it's the culture of modern
movies that make them think there's nothing fascinating about
spaceflight. �I'm afraid that it's gonna be lost on a generation if we
don't do something big, like the moon or even Mars. �Kids don't get
that excited about robots shooting through space, and I think that
mentality would hurt the cape as a tourist draw...
--
lab~rat �:-)
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Well KSC is still a major tourist draw, last I heard 2nd to disney.

Of course the shuttle going round and round hasnt exactly excited many:
(


I dont believe we have the political will, or the money, or the NASA
thats needed for such a effort, like moon mars..........

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:43:15 -0700 (PDT), bob haller safety advocate
puked:

On Apr 7, 3:34?pm, "lab~rat :-)" wrote:
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:30:05 -0700 (PDT), bob haller safety advocate
puked:





On Apr 5, 2:53?am, John Doe wrote:
When I look at all of the "PR" infrastructure NASA has with its NASA TV,
so many web sites, images galleries etc, what will be left after the
shuttle's last flight ?

Will the shuttle web sites remain as they are, or will they be rewritten
as a "fixed" historical "reader's digest" version ?

Or the remaining projects, which ones are we likely to hear about in
mainstream media ? Any unmanned missions of interest coming up beyond 2010 ?

With that Ares thing cancelled, what happens to the launchpads ? With
the semi-cannabalised one remain as it, not good for any type of launch
? Will the remaining shuttle pad be preserved/maintained or just left to
rot because it is likely to be totally rebuilt should the USA start a
new manned programme in the decades to follow ?

Apart from public/tourist tours of the facility, what other operations
will remain alive at KSC ? Will there be any station operations left ?
With the loss of ability to launch any major component to the station,
is the KSC station processing facility going to be of any use ? Or would
the small spare parts that can be sent via progress/atv/htv be
prepared/tested elsewhere ?

Will there be any need to train astronauts at KSC or will they get their
training in Moscow and Baikonur ?

Unless obama admin changes its mind not much will be left of nasa
manned space.

I hope KSC gets a facelift, and be maintained as a historical
monument.

39A & B woud be awesome tourist draws.

I don't know how true that is. ?I live in FL and have been to the cape
a number of times and enjoyed it, but I was born in '64 and my
formative years revolved around the space program. ?I have kids in
elementary school and I try to get them interested, but to them it's
like when my great grandmother tried to point out airplanes to me.

I try to take them out to see a shuttle launch from the front yard and
they couldn't care less about it. ?I guess it's the culture of modern
movies that make them think there's nothing fascinating about
spaceflight. ?I'm afraid that it's gonna be lost on a generation if we
don't do something big, like the moon or even Mars. ?Kids don't get
that excited about robots shooting through space, and I think that
mentality would hurt the cape as a tourist draw...
--
lab~rat ?:-)
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Well KSC is still a major tourist draw, last I heard 2nd to disney.

I don't doubt that, but I wonder how many kids and younger people
actually care about it.

Of course the shuttle going round and round hasnt exactly excited many:
(


I dont believe we have the political will, or the money, or the NASA
thats needed for such a effort, like moon mars..........

You're probably right. It's a matter of priorities though. When the
Chinese land on the moon there'll probably a renewed interest.
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

bob haller safety advocate wrote:

Well KSC is still a major tourist draw, last I heard 2nd to disney.

Of course the shuttle going round and round hasnt exactly excited
many:
(


I'd be surprised if it beats out places like Universal and Sea World.


--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:05:28 -0400, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:

Well KSC is still a major tourist draw, last I heard 2nd to disney.

I'd be surprised if it beats out places like Universal and Sea World.

According to the Orlando / Orange County Visitor's Guide...

Central Florida's Attraction Attendance (2008 Estimated)

Magic Kingdom 17,063,000
Epcot Center 10,935,000
Disney's Hollywood Studios 9,608,000
Disney's Animal Kingdom 9,540,000
Universal Studios Orlando 6,231,000
SeaWorld Florida 5,926,000
Islands of Adventure at Universal Orlando 5,297,000
Busch Gardens Tampa Bay 4,410,000
Disney's Typhoon Lagoon 2,059,000
Disney's Blizzard Beach 1,891,000
Universal Wet 'n Wild 1,300,000
SeaWorld Aquatica 950,000

For some reason, they don't list KSC Visitors Complex even though they
list more-distant Busch Gardens. Wikipedia says KSC Visitors Complex
had 1.5 million visitors in 2009.

That puts KSC at No.5 among tourist destinations, after the Disney,
Universal, Sea World, and Busch Gardens franchises, and slightly ahead
of on again/off again Cypress Gardens.

Brian

Brian Thorn wrote:

That puts KSC at No.5 among tourist destinations, after the Disney,
Universal, Sea World, and Busch Gardens franchises, and slightly ahead
of on again/off again Cypress Gardens.

Is tourism really all that will be left of KSC after the last shuttle
flight ?

Will they make the launch pad "idiot proof" so that tourists will be
able to take the elevator up and take a peek at the white room ? (in
guided tours, of course).

Of couse, they could turn this into an "adventure" centre, with 0g
flights, and ability to use the emergency egress from the tower and zip
down back to the ground. Do they have a centrifuge at KSC ? That could
be fun too.

So the highly specialised pad rats who know the shuttle inside out will
be relegated to flipping burgers at the KSC snack bar and/or guiding
tourists ?

On Apr 9, 1:48�am, John Doe wrote:
Brian Thorn wrote:
That puts KSC at No.5 among tourist destinations, after the Disney,
Universal, Sea World, and Busch Gardens franchises, and slightly ahead
of on again/off again Cypress Gardens.

Is tourism really all that will be left of KSC after the last shuttle
flight ?

Will they make the launch pad "idiot proof" so that tourists will be
able to take the elevator up and take a peek at the white room ? (in
guided tours, of course).

Of couse, they could turn this into an "adventure" centre, with 0g
flights, and ability to use the emergency egress from the tower and zip
down back to the ground. Do they have a centrifuge at KSC ? That could
be fun too.

So the highly specialised pad rats who know the shuttle inside out will
be relegated to flipping burgers at the KSC snack bar and/or guiding
tourists ?

A job is better than NO JOB, at least after unemployment runs out.

Futher the titan missle silo museum in tuscon AZ has guides who
actually worked as controllers when the sio was active.

Nothing better as a guide as someone who worked there.

as to china getting to moon, we will likely have to ask them
permission before spending the boatloads of money for a competive
effort.........

dont forget china is buying our nation