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Old March 28th 10, 04:27 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
David Spain
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The inventor is from Roswell!!!!

;-)

Dave
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Old March 28th 10, 07:21 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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I wish they had described how this is supposed to work; it looks like
the top and bottom counter-rotate, with each having three rotor blades
for VTOL. Whatever it is, Lockheed designed it:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=4,802,639

Pat
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Old March 29th 10, 01:51 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mar 28, 2:21*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
I wish they had described how this is supposed to work; it looks like
the top and bottom counter-rotate, with each having three rotor blades
for VTOL. Whatever it is, Lockheed designed it:http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=4,802,639

Pat


a riding weedwacker on really vicious steroids?
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Old March 29th 10, 05:58 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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On 3/28/2010 4:51 PM, John wrote:
On Mar 28, 2:21 pm, Pat wrote:
I wish they had described how this is supposed to work; it looks like
the top and bottom counter-rotate, with each having three rotor blades
for VTOL. Whatever it is, Lockheed designed it:http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=4,802,639

Pat


a riding weedwacker on really vicious steroids?


Could be related to these other things:
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=4202
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/F-104VTOLPage.htm
It would be fun to know how the rotors are to be powered; probably via
some sort of turbine gas system whose exhaust goes to the rear nozzles
in forward flight
If you put some sort of RAM on all three flat sides, and make the rotor
blades out of plastics, it might have pretty good stealth characteristics.

Pat
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Old March 29th 10, 04:23 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
David Spain
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OM writes:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:27:23 -0400, David Spain
wrote:

The inventor is from Roswell!!!!


...Funny you should mention this. During 2008's disasterous trip(*) to
New Mexico, ...


Well I'm being disingenuous. The inventor is from Roswell, Georgia,
not New Mexico. :-)

However, it is a shame you missed the Smother's Bros. Personally I'd
have passed on the hurricane.

The UFO muesum is a fine place to visit. Once. If you're already in
the area or along the way to a Smothers Bros. performance...

:-)

Dave
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Old March 30th 10, 03:14 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On 29/03/2010 5:21 AM, Pat Flannery wrote:
I wish they had described how this is supposed to work; it looks like
the top and bottom counter-rotate, with each having three rotor blades
for VTOL. Whatever it is, Lockheed designed it:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=4,802,639

Pat


The only claim is for the ornamental design (which I'd have thought
wasn't even patentable). There's no indication that they even think it
could fly.

Sylvia.
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Old March 30th 10, 05:29 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Peter Stickney[_2_]
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:14:45 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 29/03/2010 5:21 AM, Pat Flannery wrote:
I wish they had described how this is supposed to work; it looks like
the top and bottom counter-rotate, with each having three rotor blades
for VTOL. Whatever it is, Lockheed designed it:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=4,802,639

Pat


The only claim is for the ornamental design (which I'd have thought
wasn't even patentable). There's no indication that they even think it
could fly.


"Ornamental Design" is a figleaf for patenting a particular shape or
configuration without having to give away any of the technical details.
And yes, they are patentable, although very specific.
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Pete Stickney
Failure is not an option
It comes bundled with the system
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Old March 30th 10, 09:59 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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On 3/29/2010 6:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 29/03/2010 5:21 AM, Pat Flannery wrote:
I wish they had described how this is supposed to work; it looks like
the top and bottom counter-rotate, with each having three rotor blades
for VTOL. Whatever it is, Lockheed designed it:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=4,802,639

Pat


The only claim is for the ornamental design (which I'd have thought
wasn't even patentable). There's no indication that they even think it
could fly.


Patenting the "Ornamental Design" is a way of patenting it without
having to explain the details of how it works that's been used before by
the aerospace industry.
Here's an example - the Northrop-Grumman patent for their Next
Generation Bomber project:
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/as...rs-wright.html
Note in this case, it's assigned to "Northrop Gumman Corporation" ;-)

Pat
 




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