Space Policy: Why Mars should be our top priority.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:14:34 -0500, Marvin the Martian wrote:

You can't live on Venus... Too hot. It doesn't rotate like Earth, and
the pressure is too great. Venus is pretty much a pipe dream. Mars would
be much easier to colonize.

The last part, about moving the moon, that's gibberish.

So, anyway, plans to land on Venus are a joke, like landing on the sun.

We can get to Mars easier than we can get to the moon. Energy wise, it
takes less energy to go to the surface of mars than to go to the surface
of the moon, by far. This means you can put more mass on Mars than the
moon if using the same rocket.

Anything beyond Mars cost too much energy to reach from Earth.

Mars, unlike the moon, has carbon and water. Now, it sounds like a joke,
but a carbon based life form made mostly of water would be utterly stupid
to try and colonize a rock like our moon which has no carbon and very
little water. You'd think a life form that can develop rockets would
realize this. No... it appears it isn't understood.

Mars has a 24.5 hour day, almost perfect for Earth based life forms. The
moon? Forget it! You're in the dark 2 weeks at a time. You're not setting
up greenhouses on the moon.

So, if you want a space outpost, Mars is it! A mars colony would have
easy access to the asteroids for mining, which could more than pay for a
Mars colony. Mars would be the gateway to Jupiter and its moons. It is
actually possible to build a space elevator out of common Kevlar on Mars,
thus one day, space access from Mars would be incredibly cheap.

Mars has the science as well: it is so like Earth, it may have had life
on it. Recent methane releases hint strongly at life. It would greatly
advance biological science if we could study Mars life.

On Apr 24, 8:46*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:14:34 -0500, Marvin the Martian wrote:
You can't live on Venus... Too hot. It doesn't rotate like Earth, and
the pressure is too great. Venus is pretty much a pipe dream. Mars would
be much easier to colonize.

The last part, about moving the moon, that's gibberish.

So, anyway, plans to land on Venus are a joke, like landing on the sun.

You obviously need some personal time to rethink this one through.


We can get to Mars easier than we can get to the moon. Energy wise, it
takes less energy to go to the surface of mars than to go to the surface
of the moon, by far. This means you can put more mass on Mars than the
moon if using the same rocket.

Anything beyond Mars cost too much energy to reach from Earth.

Venus is only a little over 100x as far as our moon, but then you
don't care.


Mars, unlike the moon, has carbon and water. Now, it sounds like a joke,
but a carbon based life form made mostly of water would be utterly stupid
to try and colonize a rock like our moon which has no carbon and very
little water. You'd think a life form that can develop rockets would
realize this. No... it appears it isn't understood.

Mars has a 24.5 hour day, almost perfect for Earth based life forms. The
moon? Forget it! You're in the dark 2 weeks at a time. You're not setting
up greenhouses on the moon.

So, if you want a space outpost, Mars is it! A mars colony would have
easy access to the asteroids for mining, which could more than pay for a
Mars colony. Mars would be the gateway to Jupiter and its moons. It is
actually possible to build a space elevator out of common Kevlar on Mars,
thus one day, space access from Mars would be incredibly cheap.

Mars has the science as well: it is so like Earth, it may have had life
on it. Recent methane releases hint strongly at life. It would greatly
advance biological science if we could study Mars life.

When you get back on your medication, we'll talk about those matters.
Can we assume that you've gotten advise from William Mook?

~ BG

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:02:11 -0700, BradGuth wrote:

On Apr 24, 8:46Â*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:14:34 -0500, Marvin the Martian wrote:
You can't live on Venus... Too hot. It doesn't rotate like Earth, and
the pressure is too great. Venus is pretty much a pipe dream. Mars
would be much easier to colonize.

The last part, about moving the moon, that's gibberish.

So, anyway, plans to land on Venus are a joke, like landing on the sun.

You obviously need some personal time to rethink this one through.

Venus has a surface temperature of 462 Celsius; hot enough to melt lead
and make you into a Cajun barbecue that was over done.

The surface pressure on Venus is 9.3 MPa, about 92 Earth atmospheres of
pressure.

You can't "land" on Venus. You can die on Venus; but land, do work, and
come back? No.

We can get to Mars easier than we can get to the moon. Energy wise, it
takes less energy to go to the surface of mars than to go to the
surface of the moon, by far. This means you can put more mass on Mars
than the moon if using the same rocket.

Anything beyond Mars cost too much energy to reach from Earth.

Venus is only a little over 100x as far as our moon, but then you don't
care.

Distance has not much to do with it. as anyone who has studied
astrophysics knows. It has to do with orbits and all that physics
Hohmann transfers energy.

Mars, unlike the moon, has carbon and water. Now, it sounds like a
joke, but a carbon based life form made mostly of water would be
utterly stupid to try and colonize a rock like our moon which has no
carbon and very little water. You'd think a life form that can develop
rockets would realize this. No... it appears it isn't understood.

Mars has a 24.5 hour day, almost perfect for Earth based life forms.
The moon? Forget it! You're in the dark 2 weeks at a time. You're not
setting up greenhouses on the moon.

So, if you want a space outpost, Mars is it! A mars colony would have
easy access to the asteroids for mining, which could more than pay for
a Mars colony. Mars would be the gateway to Jupiter and its moons. It
is actually possible to build a space elevator out of common Kevlar on
Mars, thus one day, space access from Mars would be incredibly cheap.

Mars has the science as well: it is so like Earth, it may have had life
on it. Recent methane releases hint strongly at life. It would greatly
advance biological science if we could study Mars life.

When you get back on your medication, we'll talk about those matters.
Can we assume that you've gotten advise from William Mook?

So, you really didn't post anything about physics, just some insults.

On Apr 25, 11:23*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:02:11 -0700, BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:46*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:14:34 -0500, Marvin the Martian wrote:
You can't live on Venus... Too hot. It doesn't rotate like Earth, and
the pressure is too great. Venus is pretty much a pipe dream. Mars
would be much easier to colonize.

The last part, about moving the moon, that's gibberish.

So, anyway, plans to land on Venus are a joke, like landing on the sun..

You obviously need some personal time to rethink this one through.

Venus has a surface temperature of 462 Celsius; hot enough to melt lead
and make you into a Cajun barbecue that was over done.

The surface pressure on Venus is 9.3 MPa, about 92 Earth atmospheres of
pressure.

You can't "land" on Venus. You can die on Venus; but land, do work, and
come back? No.

You didn't mention that you were blind and systematically dumbfounded
from birth.
*

We can get to Mars easier than we can get to the moon. Energy wise, it
takes less energy to go to the surface of mars than to go to the
surface of the moon, by far. This means you can put more mass on Mars
than the moon if using the same rocket.

Anything beyond Mars cost too much energy to reach from Earth.

Venus is only a little over 100x as far as our moon, but then you don't
care.

Distance has not much to do with it. as anyone who has studied
astrophysics knows. *It has to do with orbits and all that physics
Hohmann transfers energy.

So, you have rad-hard DNA?


Mars, unlike the moon, has carbon and water. Now, it sounds like a
joke, but a carbon based life form made mostly of water would be
utterly stupid to try and colonize a rock like our moon which has no
carbon and very little water. You'd think a life form that can develop
rockets would realize this. No... it appears it isn't understood.

Mars has a 24.5 hour day, almost perfect for Earth based life forms.
The moon? Forget it! You're in the dark 2 weeks at a time. You're not
setting up greenhouses on the moon.

So, if you want a space outpost, Mars is it! A mars colony would have
easy access to the asteroids for mining, which could more than pay for
a Mars colony. Mars would be the gateway to Jupiter and its moons. It
is actually possible to build a space elevator out of common Kevlar on
Mars, thus one day, space access from Mars would be incredibly cheap.

Mars has the science as well: it is so like Earth, it may have had life
on it. Recent methane releases hint strongly at life. It would greatly
advance biological science if we could study Mars life.

When you get back on your medication, we'll talk about those matters.
Can we assume that you've gotten advise from William Mook?

So, you really didn't post anything about physics, just some insults.

Your obfuscation and denial of the physics and best available science
is noted.

~ BG