How do you define eye relief these days?

I have two new Naglers, 7mm and 9mm. Is there anyone out there with
these two eyepieces who can see the entire field of view, right out to
the edges, all the way around, without plastering their eyeball right
against the eye lens? Do these eyepieces really have 0mm of eye relief?
Do the manufacturers of 80-degree eyepieces have a new definition of eye
relief? Thanks!
Larry Brown
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