Secret Pixels of Venus / by Brad Guth

Some have said that the surface of Venus today is safe for human
habitation. These same individuals say the moon is not. We don't
have to guess about the surface condition of either.

Here's a picture from the surface of Venus

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...nera13_big.gif

that was sent by the Soviet Venera 13 space probe sitting on the
surface of Venus after parachuting there on 1 March 1982. The
vehicle, even though safeguarded from conditions in its own safe-like
enclosure survived only half an hour in the blazing 482 C (900 F)
temperature - about twice as hot as your oven at home. The air
pressure was 92 bar - 92 times sea level pressure on Earth. Chemical
analysis of the droplets in the clouds surrounding the lander indicate
they wree pure sulfuric acid.

Now if any of you have ever left a chicken or a steak under a broiler
at 500 F for too long, or if any of you have ever cooked a whole
turkey in minutes in a pressure cooker (which operates at 2 bar) - or
if any of you have ever dropped anything organic in sulfuric acid -
you may have some inkling of just how BAD a day you would have if you
found yourself on the surface of Venus!

Twice as hot as the broiler gets, 40x more pressure than a pressure
cooker, and clouds of liquid sulfuric acid.. hmm..

Any organic material, would burst into a weird sort of flame, and
dissolve away in seconds leaving the bones behind which might last
nearly 20 minutes or so before dissolving altogether.

This is NOT conducive to life.

As far as the moon is concerned.

We've been there.. Here's a series of films shot from Apollo 15's
Falcon lander.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1xzPGyt4F4

Here's a few more images from the lunar surface

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6c60m3JbKw&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLa6BOFu3A&NR=1

And if you want to see more! for only $20 you can get the DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjtJ3...eature=related

Euugene Cernan said once that naysayers can spin all sorts of crazy
theories they want about Apollo,to take away the thrill, and the glory
of those missions to the American people, but there's one thing
they'll never do, and that's take those footprints I made on Montes
Taurus the Winter of 1972 away from me!.

Now it is true that there is more radiation on the moon than on Earth,
but the amounts are tolerable if stay times are short - less than 90
days. For those who wish to stay longer than a year on the moon, you
need to get underground or do something different. This is an issue
for long-term habitation. Not for short term exploration or tourism
or even industry if you rotate work crews or work tele-robotically
from shielded bunkers

It is an issue that will be resolved in my estimation.

More video from the moon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9quPcNWZE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpNgvVOZQ4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmZGSU4Hm8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGMEn0FFQvw&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4&NR=1

Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
us a lasting place in the history of the human race.

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"Williamknowsbest" wrote in message
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| More video from the moon
|
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9quPcNWZE&NR=1
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpNgvVOZQ4&NR=1
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmZGSU4Hm8&NR=1
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGMEn0FFQvw&NR=1
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4&NR=1
|
| Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
| heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
| us a lasting place in the history of the human race.

He was a great American, that Wernher von Braun. Built V2 rockets
for Hitler, too. What a great German. Something that has earned
him a lasting place in the history of the human race.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_von_Braun

Dunno about "us", though. My mother wanted to kill the *******.
What was your contribution?

On May 1, 5:51 am, Williamknowsbest wrote:
More video from the moon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9qu...INSD7MmT4&NR=1

Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
us a lasting place in the history of the human race.

Wonder why there's still nothing of objective evidence in full support
of such an accomplishment, that which oddly can not be independently
replicated as of using half the inert GLOW or much less that of any
sort of fly-by-rocket lander.

Why is the new and greatly improved JAXA/Selene science so unusually
taboo/nondisclosure rated, as well as their HDTV color images having
been doctored?
.. - Brad Guth

On May 1, 5:29 am, Williamknowsbest wrote:
Some have said that the surface of Venus today is safe for human
habitation. These same individuals say the moon is not. We don't
have to guess about the surface condition of either.

Here's a picture from the surface of Venus
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...nera13_big.gif

that was sent by the Soviet Venera 13 space probe sitting on the
surface of Venus after parachuting there on 1 March 1982. The
vehicle, even though safeguarded from conditions in its own safe-like
enclosure survived only half an hour in the blazing 482 C (900 F)
temperature - about twice as hot as your oven at home. The air
pressure was 92 bar - 92 times sea level pressure on Earth. Chemical
analysis of the droplets in the clouds surrounding the lander indicate
they wree pure sulfuric acid.

In other kind and constructive words, there's actually hundreds of
teratonnes worth of easily extractable h2o, especially when taken from
within that relatively cold nighttime clouded season (say at 60+ km).


Now if any of you have ever left a chicken or a steak under a broiler
at 500 F for too long, or if any of you have ever cooked a whole
turkey in minutes in a pressure cooker (which operates at 2 bar) - or
if any of you have ever dropped anything organic in sulfuric acid -
you may have some inkling of just how BAD a day you would have if you
found yourself on the surface of Venus!

Twice as hot as the broiler gets, 40x more pressure than a pressure
cooker, and clouds of liquid sulfuric acid.. hmm..

Any organic material, would burst into a weird sort of flame, and
dissolve away in seconds leaving the bones behind which might last
nearly 20 minutes or so before dissolving altogether.

Sadly, this above statement of yours is simply another good example as
to what more than proves you know so damn little of actual physics or
science. It's as though you are still a smarter than average 5th
grader, with lots to learn, except you're actually too damn old to
learn anything.


This is NOT conducive to life.

As far as the moon is concerned.

We've been there.. Here's a series of films shot from Apollo 15's
Falcon lander.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1xzPGyt4F4

Here's a few more images from the lunar surface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6c60...La6BOFu3A&NR=1

And if you want to see more! for only $20 you can get the DVDhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjtJ3GTT5ms&feature=related

Euugene Cernan said once that naysayers can spin all sorts of crazy
theories they want about Apollo,to take away the thrill, and the glory
of those missions to the American people, but there's one thing
they'll never do, and that's take those footprints I made on Montes
Taurus the Winter of 1972 away from me!.

Now it is true that there is more radiation on the moon than on Earth,
but the amounts are tolerable if stay times are short - less than 90
days. For those who wish to stay longer than a year on the moon, you
need to get underground or do something different. This is an issue
for long-term habitation. Not for short term exploration or tourism
or even industry if you rotate work crews or work tele-robotically
from shielded bunkers

It is an issue that will be resolved in my estimation.

Your bipolar form of using conditional physics and genetic infused
naysayism is showing its ugly Semitic head once again.

Using your subjective and otherwise conditional laws of conditional
physics in order to discredit what can be otherwise technically
accomplished with such a surplus of local energy and resources to
spare, is only boasting as to further proof-positive and otherwise
nailing down about your BD(bipolar disorder), that's forever going to
continually object to anything on behalf of Venus.

The same laws of physics that makes all things of Mook function
without a hitch and at good profit margin to boot, instead could be
utilized on behalf of making nifty stuff happen on behalf of Venus,
regardless of how hot and nasty that raw environment is to naked life
as we know it.

Your "This is NOT conducive to life" should have been more properly
stated as 'not conducive to naked dumbfounded life'.

Pressure once equalized is a biological no-brainer, and of such dry
temperature isn't hardly an issue with unlimited local energy and
insulation as good as R-1024/m is certainly not hardly a bad thing,
any more so than CO2--co/o2 is the least bit insurmountable. Even
crystal dry S8 is 100% harmless.

Unlike our naked and thus unavoidably anticathode reactive moon,
whereas one bad halo CME or series of cosmic gamma events (of which
there are always many), and within minutes human DNA is sufficiently
done for (aka 'past the point of no return'), whereas on Venus our DNA
is extremely well protected, far better off than here on Earth, as
well as there being no gamma radiating moon adding its lethal energy
trauma plus gravity/tidal force of global warming affect to the
already geothermally forced situation as a toasty surface environment.

Of course, those easily fooled by way of purely subjective evidence,
by mainstream hyped eye-candy of all things inert, especially when any
number of objective forms of evidence has been continually discounted
as though Old Testament taboo/nondisclosure rated, leaves little to
conclude other than brown-nosed birds of a Semitic feather (like
yourself) do in fact flock together.

Your clearly bipolar skewed way of taking each and everything out of
context and then intentionally interpreting on only the utmost
negative aspects, including your persistent exclusion of whatever
intelligent use of technology could muster, is just further proof-
positive of your bipolar intentions of continually doing everything
you possibly can in order to undermine or disqualify each and every
consideration on behalf of polishing anything except Mook stuff.

Yourself, GW Bush and company of brown-nosed minions are clearly one
in the same as Hitler, except combined and while off your bipolar meds
is when you folks are much worse than, as well as having polluted and
exterminated far greater numbers along with your mutually faith-based
perpetrated cold-war(s).

Your intentions are as always every bit as clear as another DARPA S-
Band Chapel Bell transponder.
.. - Brad Guth

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"Williamknowsbest" wrote in message
...
| More video from the moon
|
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9quPcNWZE&NR=1
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmpNgvVOZQ4&NR=1
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmZGSU4Hm8&NR=1
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGMEn0FFQvw&NR=1
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4&NR=1
|
| Apollo was a great program, and all the men who flew to the moon
| heroes. Something Amierca can be proud of. Something that has earned
| us a lasting place in the history of the human race.

He was a great American, that Wernher von Braun. Built V2 rockets
for Hitler, too. What a great German. Something that has earned
him a lasting place in the history of the human race.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_von_Braun

Dunno about "us", though. My mother wanted to kill the *******.
What was your contribution?

But Wernher von Braun was a such a smart fellow as mostly Jewish
educated and otherwise cloaked as a Lutheran (sadly his younger
brother doesn't account for much). You'd think all other Jews would
have continually worshiped "the *******" in charge of having put the
best of their Jewish expertise in physics and science to the daunting
task of global domination.
.. - Brad Guth

On Apr 12, 5:26 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:47 am, BradGuth wrote:



Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
ourVenussurface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
community of structures with 'GUTHVenus', of which by all means you
should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.

"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
so to speak.

Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
details of theVenusterrain are in fact quite visible and of
impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
kicking in.
- BradGuth-

Odd this topic hasn't gotten its fair share of Usenet flak, other than
the usual faith-based gauntlet of topic/author stalking and bashings.
Perhaps it needs to get another fresh start, so that others might
grasp the meaning without all of the usual brown-nosed clownism taking
hold.

How about our simply discussing the pro/con issues of the local/
renewable energy aspects of our doing business while on Venus?
. - Brad Guth

I'll have to restart this one. Oddly the resident Jews of Usenet/
Groups and especially of their Zionist peers as well as their DARPA
Third Reich, are just too upset about my Venus topic.
.. - Brad Guth

On May 7, 9:11 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Apr 12, 5:26 pm, BradGuth wrote:



On Mar 6, 10:47 am, BradGuth wrote:

Though many official image archives exist, thanks again to our once
upon a time Usenet contributor "tomcat", for having posted the
optional link to this somewhat older but updated collective page of
ourVenussurface images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting of natural as well as AI(artificial
intelligence) worthy information can be found within image No.17 from
the top left, as clearly situated within the 225 m/pixel composite
frame of view by way of such radar imaging obtained pixels that just
so happens to include the robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex
community of structures with 'GUTHVenus', of which by all means you
should apply your very own PhotoShop or Photo whatever resampling/
enlargement of at least 3X, along with using whatever's your best
unsharp-mask filter plus other image cleaning or contrast options
you'd care to apply. Try to remember, that a purely negative or
naysay mindset of a true rusemaster or of faith-based formulated
denial simply can not accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements, at least
not without making this image look far worse off than it really is.

"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

First of all, you do not have to be an Einstein or most any other kind
of wizard, just as long as you're not deductive impaired, logic
impaired or faith-based mindset against ETs existing/coexisting upon
other than Earth. Not that Earth isn't entirely extra special and
perhaps far between similar wet and badly polluted worlds capable of
accommodating our forms of complex life as is, as well as in the buff,
so to speak.

Speaking of other worlds; if you still can not manage to zoom in and/
or enlarge sufficiently in order to find this complex community of
interesting pixels on your own, much less properly photo enlarge for a
somewhat better view, then perhaps you are not nearly as good at basic
observationology as you think you are. Remember that the small
details of theVenusterrain are in fact quite visible and of
impressive geology formations as is, and of whatever else is looking
as though intelligent created or as modified to suit are those items
of somewhat larger pixel patterns. So, in all fairness you can't
possibly claim seeing one set of pixels as forming a given pattern
related to whatever is perfectly natural, as clearly being the case,
and then not deductively interpret those of other pixels of them more
substantial patterns that look as though anything but natural, or
perhaps that's just my open mindset and otherwise deductive logic
kicking in.
- BradGuth-

Odd this topic hasn't gotten its fair share of Usenet flak, other than
the usual faith-based gauntlet of topic/author stalking and bashings.
Perhaps it needs to get another fresh start, so that others might
grasp the meaning without all of the usual brown-nosed clownism taking
hold.

How about our simply discussing the pro/con issues of the local/
renewable energy aspects of our doing business while onVenus?
. - BradGuth


It looks as though I'll have to restart this one. Oddly the resident
Zionist/Jews in charge of these public Usenet/newsgroups and
especially of their Zionist peers as well as their almighty DARPA
Third Reich, are just too upset about my Venus topic.

There must be a few good reasons other than faith-based bigotry,
arrogance and greed, just that I can't seem to think of any that would
justify this degree of topic/author stalking and otherwise banishment.

There's certainly no insurmountable technological issues with
intelligent other life having existed/coexisted on the planet Venus,
and most certainly nothing getting in the way of good robotics or that
of a fully robotic airship of the rigid composite kind.
.. - Brad Guth

Too bad that humanity gets to be screwed over once again by their own
kind.

There's no question that Venus has been hosting other intelligent
life, and there's even less question that our DARPA knows this far
better than most government agencies.

A fifth grader can run the specified image into most any PhotoShop
program and see for them self.

Faith-based government groups can pretty much say whatever they like,
and obviously do whatever they like. Proof being our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush) and company of brown-nosed minions that are scared to
death of their own shadow.
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Why is our DARPA and their army of loyal minions and clowns so deathly
afraid of Venus?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth



On Jun 8, 10:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Too bad that humanity gets to be screwed over once again by their own
kind.

There's no question thatVenushas been hosting other intelligent
life, and there's even less question that our DARPA knows this far
better than most government agencies.

A fifth grader can run the specified image into most any PhotoShop
program and see for them self.

Faith-based government groups can pretty much say whatever they like,
and obviously do whatever they like. Proof being our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush) and company of brown-nosed minions that are scared to
death of their own shadow.
BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth