Venus Airships / by Brad Guth

LIBERATOR wrote in
:

On May 5, 6:19*am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 5, 12:34 am, LIBERATOR wrote:



Brad what did you think of that "Disclosure
Project"http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUkorwww.disclosureproject.org

Thanks to our popular mainstream media that'll publish and/or exclude
whatever they're told by those in charge, and otherwise by that of
our "no child left behind" policy, I didn't here a darn thing about
it, and Usenet/Groups certainly didn't make much if anything of it.
(wonder why)

Besides the fact that ETs do exist, and that it's quite likely they
have also existed/coexisted on Venus (because that's technically
doable), what if anything of this "Disclosure Project" doings had
anything whatsoever to do with any composite rigid airship, as
intended for cruising Venus?

In other words, why did you fail to grasp the meaning or intent of
this topic "Venus Airships"?
. - Brad Guth

Brad, it's all related. The Venus airships are flying saucers and
nothing else.

The Venus beings are humans, almost exact to us. It's a heavily
populated planet with Earth humanoids so exact we couldn't tell if
they were walking around on Earth - and some probably are.



Hiya Libby! How's the job coming fruitcake? Busy night?

Bertie

BradGuth wrote in
:

On Jun 7, 7:22 pm, LIBERATOR wrote:
On May 5, 6:19 am, BradGuth wrote:



On May 5, 12:34 am, LIBERATOR wrote:

Brad what did you think of that "Disclosure
Project"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-
6YdUkorwww.disclosure
project.org

Thanks to our popular mainstream media that'll publish and/or
exclude whatever they're told by those in charge, and otherwise by
that of our "no child left behind" policy, I didn't here a darn
thing about it, and Usenet/Groups certainly didn't make much if
anything of it. (wonder why)

Besides the fact that ETs do exist, and that it's quite likely they
have also existed/coexisted on Venus (because that's technically
doable), what if anything of this "Disclosure Project" doings had
anything whatsoever to do with any composite rigid airship, as
intended for cruising Venus?

In other words, why did you fail to grasp the meaning or intent of
this topic "Venus Airships"?
. - Brad Guth

Brad, it's all related. The Venus airships are flying saucers and
nothing else.

The Venus beings are humans, almost exact to us. It's a heavily
populated planet with Earth humanoids so exact we couldn't tell if
they were walking around on Earth - and some probably are.

In that thick atmosphere, rigid airships are going to best suit our
probe applications in robotics as well as future manned expeditions.

I doubt Venusians are regular humanoids, at least not without advanced
technology and/or biophysical adaptations applied. I see little
reason to think Venus is "heavily populated", in fact, I doubt those
would be entirely of locally grown and evolved species as we know it,
whereas more than likely we're talking of visiting ETs responsible for
what we can interpret as most likely creating those artificial
structures, at least as deductively extrapolated from those radar
obtained images.

Where do you extract such other intelligence as pertaining to the
planet Venus?



I'm going to make a stab at it with

"Out of his butt"


Bertie

On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:
?

I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--

Or reality for that matter...

Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?

Are you going to suggest to us that our Zionist/Nazi DARPA wasn't in
charge of having made all sorts of nasty **** happen for Hitler?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

On Jun 9, 4:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:

?

I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--

Or reality for that matter...

Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?


I'd like you to explain how you make a rigid shell light enought.
Remember increased atmosphere density also implies increased pressure.

Cheers

"More_Flaps" wrote in message
...
On Jun 9, 4:50 am, BradGuth wrote:
..

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?


I'd like you to explain how you make a rigid shell light enought.
Remember increased atmosphere density also implies increased pressure.

Whilst hating to appear to support anything the Guthbot posts
I feel it necessary to point out that this is a red herring. As
long as you equalise pressures inside and outside the envelope
there is no reason for the shell to be any heavier than for a
terrestial airship.

The boiling sulphuric acid rain storms are another matter however.

Keith

On Jun 8, 2:16 pm, More_Flaps wrote:
On Jun 9, 4:50 am, BradGuth wrote:



On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:

?

I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--

Or reality for that matter...

Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?

I'd like you to explain how you make a rigid shell light enought.
Remember increased atmosphere density also implies increased pressure.

Cheers

Correct, even pressure plus full interior vacuum if you like.

Or, one could simply offset or displace the mostly CO2 with good old
reliable and failsafe H2.

How much pressure will a good sphere made of a tough composite take?

Remember that for robotics, conventional viewing ports or pilot/crew
escape hatches are not required, and there could be several of these
tough spheres per rigid airship.

The rigid airship quest and of the R&D give and take of this topic is
intended to argue exactly this kind of related technical issue. I do
not have all the answers that I honestly believe others do have at
their disposal. Go figure as to why such public funded expertise
isn't being touted or much less shared.

It seems to me that a given planet of terrific pressure and good
atmospheric density beats most anything moon like or Mars vacuum like,
especially nifty if that planet were at times only 100X as far away as
our moon.

These robotic composite rigid airships could be rather nicely remote
piloted from a manned station (aka POOF City) as safely and
efficiently kept within Venus L2.

Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

On Jun 8, 10:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:

?

I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--

Or reality for that matter...

Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?

Are you going to suggest to us that our Zionist/Nazi DARPA wasn't in
charge of having made all sorts of nasty **** happen for Hitler?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Brad,

One word:

Lithium

You need to ingest massive doses of Lithium.

wrote in news:11c2d663-4a7f-46e1-a5a8-4a655c73fb58
@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

On Jun 8, 10:50*am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:

?

I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--

Or reality for that matter...

Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just
the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?

Are you going to suggest to us that our Zionist/Nazi DARPA wasn't in
charge of having made all sorts of nasty **** happen for Hitler?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Brad,

One word:

Lithium

You need to ingest massive doses of Lithium.



Bet he's chewing on his cell phone now


Bertie

On Jun 8, 9:22 pm, wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:50 am, BradGuth wrote:



On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:

?

I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--

Or reality for that matter...

Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?

Are you going to suggest to us that our Zionist/Nazi DARPA wasn't in
charge of having made all sorts of nasty **** happen for Hitler?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Brad,

One word:

Lithium

You need to ingest massive doses of Lithium.

That's not half bad for a DARPA brown-nosed minion. Are you speaking
from personal first hand experience with taking Lithium?

Just for a little extra topic argument sake:
http://www.deepoceanexpeditions.com/ships_3_2.html
“The Deep Rover 1002 submersibles have been pressure tested to 1.25
times their maximum diving depth (1,250 meters or 4,100 feet) with a
designed safety factor of four times and a theoretical crush depth of
over 4,000 metres (13,120 feet).”

Of course purely robotics as housed within robust spheres are most
certainly more than good for going all the way down to the deepest of
ocean floors. Venus should hardly be all that insurmountable,
especially if using tough composite spheres.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/savageseas/d...e-journey.html
“Piccard and Walsh touched down onto the floor of the very deepest
part of the ocean -- where the crushing pressure exceeds 16,000 pounds
per square inch (more than a thousand times greater than the pressure
at sea level), and where Piccard reported seeing a fish swimming by.
The divers then released the steel shot, and began their rise to the
surface.”

Our worse case robotic probes as accommodated by way of these
composite rigid airships, as such need only survive 100 bar, thereby
of less than 10% as much pressure as the more than four decade old
Challenger Deep or USN Trieste deep ocean capability, and that’s if
these multiple sphere interiors had to remain at no greater than one
bar. Of course with robust robotics, pressure or vacuum are not
significant issues, as with live crew that get a little testy ear
popping while in elevators.

Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

wrote:
On Jun 8, 10:50 am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 28, 10:22 am, wrote:

?
I'm still trying to figure out what this topic has to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.
--
Or reality for that matter...
Obviously your DARPA brown-nosed expertise is insurmountable, just the
way them Zionist/Nazi always intended.

What is it about the rigid composite airship idea of such applied
technology that's over your DARPA head?

Are you going to suggest to us that our Zionist/Nazi DARPA wasn't in
charge of having made all sorts of nasty **** happen for Hitler?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

Brad,

One word:

Lithium

You need to ingest massive doses of Lithium.


I'm still waiting for guth to tell us about the "good name" he claims
to have. I can think of a few, but I don't use them in polite company.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired