what will left when blackhole evaporate

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"Nengchao Xiao" wrote in message ...
As the blackhole evaporate, its radius decrease, so the Hawking
tempearture rise and it evaporate at a great rate. My question
is, what will happen then? Will the evaporation be stopped ?
Then what's the mass and charges and angular momentum ?
Or will the tempearture keep rising till a "big bang" happens?


In my opinion blackhole evaporation is Hawking's "bull****" which
process does not exist in the present Universe due those "fastener
places" (two per blackhole's "radiation periphery") through which
mass is exchanged when necessary. (I am not sure that did or did not
Hawking's black hole's evaporation process exist when the Universe
was very young when those "fastener places" in "radiation peripheries"
possibly did not yet worked.)

Best Regards,
Hannu Poropudas


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Hawking evaporation. -TB]
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Black Hole
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/BlackHole.html

In 1973, S. Hawking showed that black holes radiate as
if they have a temperature proportional to their surface
gravity, and therefore evaporate over time.

Bekenstein-Hawking Formula
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...ngFormula.html

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"Nengchao Xiao" wrote in message ...
As the blackhole evaporate, its radius decrease, so the Hawking
tempearture rise and it evaporate at a great rate. My question
is, what will happen then? Will the evaporation be stopped ?
Then what's the mass and charges and angular momentum ?
Or will the tempearture keep rising till a "big bang" happens?


A big flash, actualy. Of course highly hypothetical because never observed.
Some believe it is the source of Gamma Ray Bursts.

In my opinion blackhole evaporation is Hawking's "bull****" which
process does not exist in the present Universe due those "fastener
places" (two per blackhole's "radiation periphery") through which
mass is exchanged when necessary. (I am not sure that did or did not
Hawking's black hole's evaporation process exist when the Universe
was very young when those "fastener places" in "radiation peripheries"
possibly did not yet worked.)


I have never heard about "fastener places". Can you give me a link to more
information please?

Thank You Very Much!
Benoît Morrissette
Best Regards,
Hannu Poropudas


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"Nengchao Xiao" wrote in message ...
As the blackhole evaporate, its radius decrease, so the Hawking
tempearture rise and it evaporate at a great rate. My question
is, what will happen then? Will the evaporation be stopped ?
Then what's the mass and charges and angular momentum ?
Or will the tempearture keep rising till a "big bang" happens?


A big flash, actualy. Of course highly hypothetical because never observed.
Some believe it is the source of Gamma Ray Bursts.

In my opinion blackhole evaporation is Hawking's "bull****" which
process does not exist in the present Universe due those "fastener
places" (two per blackhole's "radiation periphery") through which
mass is exchanged when necessary. (I am not sure that did or did not
Hawking's black hole's evaporation process exist when the Universe
was very young when those "fastener places" in "radiation peripheries"
possibly did not yet worked.)


I have never heard about "fastener places". Can you give me a link to more
information please?

They come possibly from the very early Universe when one "radiating
periphery" is born in two phases (first one half of the "radiating
periphery" and then second half of the "radiating periphery" in
certain "time periods" in central structures of the space (not center
of the Universe)).

I don't know much details of those "fastener places" but some kind of
"matter wind" (from different "times" !!!) should be detectable in
case
of them. ("God given information").

Please take a look of H-M's (5 years old baby then !!!) drawings and
my
summaries of Usenet articles from www.funet.fi (use Google to find the
correct directory).


Thank You Very Much!
Benoît Morrissette
Best Regards,
Hannu Poropudas


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"Nengchao Xiao" wrote in message ...
As the blackhole evaporate, its radius decrease, so the Hawking
tempearture rise and it evaporate at a great rate. My question
is, what will happen then? Will the evaporation be stopped ?
Then what's the mass and charges and angular momentum ?
Or will the tempearture keep rising till a "big bang" happens?


In my opinion blackhole evaporation is Hawking's "bull****" which
process does not exist in the present Universe due those "fastener
places" (two per blackhole's "radiation periphery")


"Fastener places"? You mean like where the black hole is nailed to
the wall of space-time, or screwed down to the underlying subspace?


through which
mass is exchanged when necessary.


You mean that mass flows in or out of the black hole from somewhere
else? Subspace? Hyperspace? A parallel universe?


(I am not sure that did or did not
Hawking's black hole's evaporation process exist when the Universe
was very young when those "fastener places" in "radiation peripheries"
possibly did not yet worked.)


So, someone may have turned them on later?


Best Regards,
Hannu Poropudas


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Hawking evaporation. -TB]
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No one knows but the Shadow!

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"Nengchao Xiao" wrote in message ...
As the blackhole evaporate, its radius decrease, so the Hawking
tempearture rise and it evaporate at a great rate. My question
is, what will happen then? Will the evaporation be stopped ?
Then what's the mass and charges and angular momentum ?
Or will the tempearture keep rising till a "big bang" happens?


In my opinion blackhole evaporation is Hawking's "bull****" which
process does not exist in the present Universe due those "fastener
places" (two per blackhole's "radiation periphery")


"Fastener places"? You mean like where the black hole is nailed to
the wall of space-time, or screwed down to the underlying subspace?


through which
mass is exchanged when necessary.


You mean that mass flows in or out of the black hole from somewhere
else? Subspace? Hyperspace? A parallel universe?


Please take a look two H-M's drawings in www.funet.fi (my directory)
( H-M-drawing-6.123.gif and H-M-drawing-8.gif). Two colour drawings
about black hole and "radiation peripheries" and in first one
one "fastener place" is marked and in second two "fastener places"
are marked as there should really be.

As I have understiood mass flows possibly from different "time"
which is in case of the first "radiation periphery"
100000 - 300000 years different than the present time.


(I am not sure that did or did not
Hawking's black hole's evaporation process exist when the Universe
was very young when those "fastener places" in "radiation peripheries"
possibly did not yet worked.)


So, someone may have turned them on later?


Best Regards,
Hannu Poropudas


[Moderator's note: Nobody knows what happens at the end stage of
Hawking evaporation. -TB]
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Please take a look two H-M's drawings in www.funet.fi (my directory)
( H-M-drawing-6.123.gif and H-M-drawing-8.gif). Two colour drawings
about black hole and "radiation peripheries" and in first one
one "fastener place" is marked and in second two "fastener places"
are marked as there should really be.

As I have understiood mass flows possibly from different "time"
which is in case of the first "radiation periphery"
100000 - 300000 years different than the present time.



Looks pretty mystical.

Double-A

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Please take a look two H-M's drawings in www.funet.fi (my directory)
( H-M-drawing-6.123.gif and H-M-drawing-8.gif). Two colour drawings
about black hole and "radiation peripheries" and in first one
one "fastener place" is marked and in second two "fastener places"
are marked as there should really be.

As I have understiood mass flows possibly from different "time"
which is in case of the first "radiation periphery"
100000 - 300000 years different than the present time.



Looks pretty mystical.


Yes, I have also wondered that "electricity periphery" around that
central "diamond" which destroys neutrinos. And also that "flame" or
"pen" around that central "diamond". (I called this "diamond" also
"neutrino star" due it has formed from one "radiation periphery").
This "diamond" has also those "neutrino cages" inside of it like
one "radiation periphery" has those "neutrino cages".

Hannu


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Please take a look two H-M's drawings in www.funet.fi (my directory)
( H-M-drawing-6.123.gif and H-M-drawing-8.gif). Two colour drawings
about black hole and "radiation peripheries" and in first one
one "fastener place" is marked and in second two "fastener places"
are marked as there should really be.

As I have understiood mass flows possibly from different "time"
which is in case of the first "radiation periphery"
100000 - 300000 years different than the present time.



Looks pretty mystical.


Yes, I have also wondered that "electricity periphery" around that
central "diamond" which destroys neutrinos. And also that "flame" or
"pen" around that central "diamond". (I called this "diamond" also
"neutrino star" due it has formed from one "radiation periphery").
This "diamond" has also those "neutrino cages" inside of it like
one "radiation periphery" has those "neutrino cages".


Sorry, that "pen" english word is completely wrong.

Destruction of neutrino means here that it's colour electricity colour
goes black colour electricity colour (= no colour electricity).

Hannu


Double-A