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There is no question that meteorites that hit the moon could blast away
moon rock that will fall into the Earth gravity field.,and be found in areas much like the Antarctic ice (where there are no rocks. So how come when we find a meteorite we are told it came from Mars.? Moon gravity (escape velocity) is less than Mars. Moon is millions of miles closer. Is it all because it you want to sell a book Mars is a more interesting object to talk about? Also keep in mind the moon does not have an atmosphere to slow(friction) objects down. I think man is possessed with his thoughts about Mars. It is red and that color stirs up emotions Mars can spell war it you flip the "M" It was a war semble in the old days. Truth is Mars surface other than its poles looks very much like the surface of the moon. True it does change with its dust storms,but its picture is dust and sharp looking rock always. The change is more dust here or there after each storm. It is a cold (like the moon) dusty dry surface.,and the first boot imprint(like Armstrong's) on Mars will have the same look. The only difference will be Mars dust will be deeper than the dust on the moon. I would like to see more orbiters,than landers. I would like to know the size of Mars core?. I would like to know how hot the core is?. I would like to know why Mars does not have a magnetic field? This can be done without landing on Mars. At this spacetime landing on Mars is to risky. It uses up time. It tells us very little,and a well equipped orbiter can tell us more. Bert |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
There is no question that meteorites that hit the moon could blast away moon rock that will fall into the Earth gravity field.,and be found in areas much like the Antarctic ice (where there are no rocks. So how come when we find a meteorite we are told it came from Mars.? Well, if one does the chemical analysis, one finds within those rocks said to be from Mars the same chemical characteristics of rocks analyzed on the surface of Mars, which happen to be different from those characteristics found in Moon rocks. To be very specific: "The dozen or so rocks that are claimed to have come from Mars all have certain characteristics of meteorites - surface features, crystal formations, and mineral compositions - that are not found in terrestrial rocks. One was seen to fall out of the sky, so we know they are from space. Most are basaltic lavas around 1.4 billion years old, which is much younger than common lunar rocks or other meteorites. By 1980, scientists had posed the question, Where in the solar system could there have been volcanism 1.4 billion years ago? Some researchers suggested Mars. The large number of craters on the Martian lava plains suggest that they are about 1.4 billion years old. Finally, the Viking landers measured the composition of the Martian atmosphere, which exactly matches the gas trapped in the rocks" ("The Universe Revealed", by Chris Impey and William K. Hartmann). |
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At this spacetime landing on Mars is to risky.
It uses up time. It tells us very little,and a well equipped orbiter can tell us more. Bert I think you belittle the human condition; we want to land on Mars to prove we can. Therefore, we probably should. D |
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Hi Richard I'm thinking of the Lunar Prospector. It went around the
moon and provided revealing composition and structure of the moon. Some ice in shady areas of the poles. One of its most important findings is it measured the moons "core" Moon's core holds only 2 percent of the body's mass(Earth core is one third of the planets mass. The orbiting Prospector found very little iron. Astronomers use the moon's iron deficiency to create a theory that the moon came from the outer part of Earth and the Earth's iron had already sunk to the planet's core. (I hate that theory) Richard you can see lots of stuff can be learned by orbiting a planet. We find oil by are orbiters I read about Lunar Prospector about 4 years ago. I know it could change its orbit to a low elliptical orbit. That means it could get very close to the moon's surface,and had thrusters when needed to avoid hitting the moon. Its last experiment was to crash into a shady ice area to strengthen the evidence. This experiment would include the Hubble,for it might be able to see traces of water vapor in the plume. Never read how that came out????? We learned a lot about Venus"s surface with radar. HAPPY NEW YEAR Bert |
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Scott You know that the 830 LB of moon rock we tested is a lot
different than rock here on Earth. So why do astronomers keep telling us the moon was once part of the Earth? Now that we are sure what composition moon rocks have Why don't we find any moon rocks,in areas like the Antarctica? Until you tell me otherwise I think Moon rocks should be millions of times easier to find. Just think of distance. Just think of gravity etc. Bert |
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D What you say is the way it is. I just wanted to see it on
television. Maybe we should have the Beagle mass produced in China. They could produce 25 for the same money. That gives us 25 more chances,and all could be launched the same day. There is safety in numbers. Nature taught us that. Bert PS I think we reached a spacetime to think like Wal-Mart |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Scott You know that the 830 LB of moon rock we tested is a lot different than rock here on Earth. So why do astronomers keep telling us the moon was once part of the Earth? Now that we are sure what composition moon rocks have Why don't we find any moon rocks,in areas like the Antarctica? Until you tell me otherwise I think Moon rocks should be millions of times easier to find. Just think of distance. Just think of gravity etc. Bert Actually, the sources I have here indicate there are quite a bit of similarities between returned Moon rocks and terrestrial rocks, specifically those in the outer layer of the Earth. The major difference is the paucity of water and volatile elements in Moon rocks - there simply is none to speak of. Second, there are meteorites recovered that seem to match the composition of Moon rocks. |
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Scott My sources differ from your sources because I'm told there is a
"big" difference between Moon and Earth rocks. My source tells me there is a rare element(can't off hand think of its name) that is rare on Earth but not so rare on the Moon. This evidence is fudged over. For some reason they love the moon being part of the Earth,and this big chunk was chopped away from the Earths surface by being hit by a planet that was three times the size of the Earth. This big rock was able to go into orbit and we call it our Moon. They use this theory for Pluto,and its Moon Charon. They don't use it for the gas planets. It is a very bad theory. Bert |
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"J. Scott Miller" wrote:
Actually, the sources I have here indicate there are quite a bit of similarities between returned Moon rocks and terrestrial rocks, specifically those in the outer layer of the Earth. The major difference is the paucity of water and volatile elements in Moon rocks - there simply is none to speak of. Isn't the Moon also comparatively poorer in the heavier elements like nickel, and correspondingly richer in the lighter (but still non-volatile) ones like aluminum? -- Odysseus |
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