Selene Rising Over Lycabettus Hill

Dear friends ... and especially Oreo ... err, I mean Oriel,

Something in anticipation of August's "Sturgeon Moon" and which is a
sample from 156 images taken over a few minutes involving the 98.5%
phase moon rising over Lycabettus Hill ("Hill of the Wolves") in
central Athens: http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Sc...abettus-02.htm

The image was taken from a distance of 1380 meters away and across the
National Archaeological Museum of Athens so as to have a balanced
apparent diameter for the rising moon and the Church of St George
which sits atop Mt Lycabettus.

This effort was VERY tricky because the moon must be imaged when it is
8 degrees above the horizon owing to the 280 meter height of
Lycabettus Hill. As a result, all of my previous work involving the
proper timing of the rising full moon against well-known Greek
landmarks goes out the window, namely with the sun being between 4 and
6 degrees below the horizon. For this effort, it was necessary to
shoot when the sun was very close to the horizon and, in fact, just
below it so as to have the necessary balance between the brighter than
usual full moon owing to its eight-degree altitude and the foreground.

The area atop Lycabettus Hill is a very popular tourist attraction and
where the modus operandi is to view the setting sun (yes, they were
looking at my direction since the setting sun was towards me and
behind me). Since this image was taken one to two minutes after the
sun had set, some of the tourists visible in the image have turned
their attention to the rising moon in the opposite direction.

Anthony.

On Aug 4, 10:56*pm, Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:
Dear friends ... and especially Oreo ... err, I mean Oriel,


Maybe you should call yourself Ephialtes but considering you compare
the childish and nonsensical analemmas to an effort which surpasses
men landing on the moon you will get a fool's pardon.

Had any of you understood that the Sun does not wander in the
celestial arena there would be none of this mess today where the
acceptance of 9 planets was good enough to continue with.

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1- Islam encourages marriage to prevent committing adultery, and
considers marriage to be one of the ways of the Messengers;The
Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “O
young people, whoever among you can afford to get married, let him do
so, for it helps one to lower the gaze and protect the private parts
(i.e., remain chaste). Whoever cannot afford it, let him fast, for it
is a protection for him.” 2- If a man wants to get married but is
unable to spend on a wife, then he should adhere to the words of Allah.
24:33 “And let those who find not the financial means for marriage
keep themselves chaste, until Allâh enriches them of His Bounty”
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castration. It is forbidden to forego getting married even if the
intention is to devote oneself to worship. “There is no monasticism in
Islam.” because they are against his nature, and against having
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prevent unlawful pregnancies and social problems.17: 32. And come not
near to the unlawful sexual intercourse. Verily, it is a Fâhishah
[i.e. anything that transgresses its limits (a great sin)], and an
evil way (that leads one to Hell unless Allâh forgives him).

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sin. 24: 15. When you were propagating it with your tongues, and
uttering with your mouths that whereof you had no knowledge, you
counted it a little thing, while with Allâh it was very great.

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On Aug 4, 4:18*pm, oriel36 wrote:

Had any of you understood that the Sun does not wander in the
celestial arena

The Sun does not wander.

The Earth orbits the Sun. But not in a perfect circle in the plane of
the equator of the Earth's own rotation.

Thus, the Sun's apparent motion is not the simple and uniform motion
that would be expected in that case. The analemma simply records the
difference between the two, not a motion of the Sun that is claimed to
be actual.

You neither deny the Equation of Time, nor the fact that shadows at
noon are longer in the summer than in the winter, at least outside the
Tropics. Given this, since the analemma is simply a chart which
records those two facts, it seems strange for you to denounce it.

John Savard

Anthony Ayiomamiti:

Dear friends ... and especially Oreo ... err, I mean Oriel,

Something in anticipation of August's "Sturgeon Moon" and which is a
sample from 156 images taken over a few minutes involving the 98.5%
phase moon rising over Lycabettus Hill ("Hill of the Wolves") in
central Athens: http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Lunar-Sc...abettus-02.htm

The image was taken from a distance of 1380 meters away and across the
National Archaeological Museum of Athens so as to have a balanced
apparent diameter for the rising moon and the Church of St George
which sits atop Mt Lycabettus.

This effort was VERY tricky because the moon must be imaged when it is
8 degrees above the horizon owing to the 280 meter height of
Lycabettus Hill. As a result, all of my previous work involving the
proper timing of the rising full moon against well-known Greek
landmarks goes out the window, namely with the sun being between 4 and
6 degrees below the horizon. For this effort, it was necessary to
shoot when the sun was very close to the horizon and, in fact, just
below it so as to have the necessary balance between the brighter than
usual full moon owing to its eight-degree altitude and the foreground.

The area atop Lycabettus Hill is a very popular tourist attraction and
where the modus operandi is to view the setting sun (yes, they were
looking at my direction since the setting sun was towards me and
behind me). Since this image was taken one to two minutes after the
sun had set, some of the tourists visible in the image have turned
their attention to the rising moon in the opposite direction.

Lovely site, lovely sight. I have had the good fortune of vacationing
in Greece and some of the islands several times; you make me hungry to
return! On the subject of hunger, the Tavernas are a strong incentive,
as well!

If only you had Oriel's er, uh, vision, there are probably 30 or 40
bits of evidence in that one photo to confirm that the sidereal day is
precisely 24 hours in length. He's a regular Sherlock Holmes, idn' 'e?
I imagine him crawling on his hands and knees, magnifying lens in hand
(the closest thing to a telescope he has ever encountered), finding a
thread here, an odd button there, perhaps a safety pin, and saying
"Anthony, you look, but you do not see! The sidereal day is 24 hours in
duration."

Davoud

--
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

"Davoud" wrote in message
...

Lovely site, lovely sight. I have had the good fortune of vacationing
in Greece and some of the islands several times; you make me hungry to
return!............

should have stayed there


If only you had Oriel's er, uh, vision, there are probably 30 or 40
bits of evidence in that one photo to confirm that the sidereal day is
precisely 24 hours in length. He's a regular Sherlock Holmes, idn' 'e?
I imagine him crawling on his hands and knees, magnifying lens in hand
(the closest thing to a telescope he has ever encountered), finding a
thread here, an odd button there, perhaps a safety pin, and saying
"Anthony, you look, but you do not see! The sidereal day is 24 hours in
duration."

u make me laugh... u attack those who have nothing to do with u, then scream
like a baby when you're attacked... idiot

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

On Aug 5, 5:39*pm, "lou feeders" wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message

...



Lovely site, lovely sight. I have had the good fortune of vacationing
in Greece and some of the islands several times; you make me hungry to
return!............

should have stayed there



If only you had Oriel's er, uh, vision, there are probably 30 or 40
bits of evidence in that one photo to confirm that the sidereal day is
precisely 24 hours in length. He's a regular Sherlock Holmes, idn' 'e?
I imagine him crawling on his hands and knees, magnifying lens in hand
(the closest thing to a telescope he has ever encountered), finding a
thread here, an odd button there, perhaps a safety pin, and saying
"Anthony, you look, but you do not see! The sidereal day is 24 hours in
duration."

u make me laugh... u attack those who have nothing to do with u, then scream
like a baby when you're attacked... idiot



Davoud

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No offence,the guy is too mediocre to consider,more like a parade of
cars,telescopes,holidays and other middle class trinkets that probably
impresses the hell out of many, but as an astronomer ,they have about
as much relevence as the price of tea in China.If I need imaging I go
to the Hubble archives or other large websites and then only to mark
out the routes for discussing productive topics but unfortunately most
here have been subject to an education in astronomical matters that
does not even rise to the l;evel of the antecedent geostatic
astrologers.

Anthony and his 'analemma' when his compatriots knew full well the
difference between the wandering planets and the direct motion of the
Sun -

"And whereas the sun always advances along its own direct path, they
wander in various ways, straying sometimes to the south and sometimes
to the north; that is why they are called "planets" [wanderers]. "
Copernicus *

The 'wandering' motion of the planets and the direct path of the Sun
was known to the Greeks and the wandering motion is resolved by the
Earth's planetary orbital dynamic so whatever numbskull promotes a
'wandering' Sun into the celestial arena is a traitor to his own
heritage but traitor are traitors by their self-serving act hence
Anthony does not care.


* "Yet [these orbital motions] differ in many ways [from the daily
rotation or first motion]. In the first place, they do not swing
around the same poles as the first motion, but run obliquely through
the zodiac. Secondly, these bodies are not seen moving uniformly in
their orbits, since the sun and moon are observed to be sometimes
slow, at other times faster in their course. Moreover, we see the
other five planets also retrograde at times, and stationary at either
end [of the regression]. And whereas the sun always advances along its
own direct path, they wander in various ways, straying sometimes to
the south and sometimes to the north; that is why they are called
"planets" [wanderers]." Copernicus

This "Davoud", David, or whatever isn't a respecter of opinions of other
people. He tends to flame the group, sometimes with irrational statements
and then wonders why he gets criticized. Extremely opinionated and then
tries to poorly justify himself even if he's totally wrong, which happens
often.

"oriel36" wrote in message
...
On Aug 5, 5:39 pm, "lou feeders" wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message

...



Lovely site, lovely sight. I have had the good fortune of vacationing
in Greece and some of the islands several times; you make me hungry to
return!............

should have stayed there



If only you had Oriel's er, uh, vision, there are probably 30 or 40
bits of evidence in that one photo to confirm that the sidereal day is
precisely 24 hours in length. He's a regular Sherlock Holmes, idn' 'e?
I imagine him crawling on his hands and knees, magnifying lens in hand
(the closest thing to a telescope he has ever encountered), finding a
thread here, an odd button there, perhaps a safety pin, and saying
"Anthony, you look, but you do not see! The sidereal day is 24 hours in
duration."

u make me laugh... u attack those who have nothing to do with u, then
scream
like a baby when you're attacked... idiot



Davoud

--
usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No offence,the guy is too mediocre to consider,more like a parade of
cars,telescopes,holidays and other middle class trinkets that probably
impresses the hell out of many, but as an astronomer ,they have about
as much relevence as the price of tea in China.If I need imaging I go
to the Hubble archives or other large websites and then only to mark
out the routes for discussing productive topics but unfortunately most
here have been subject to an education in astronomical matters that
does not even rise to the l;evel of the antecedent geostatic
astrologers.

Anthony and his 'analemma' when his compatriots knew full well the
difference between the wandering planets and the direct motion of the
Sun -

"And whereas the sun always advances along its own direct path, they
wander in various ways, straying sometimes to the south and sometimes
to the north; that is why they are called "planets" [wanderers]. "
Copernicus *

The 'wandering' motion of the planets and the direct path of the Sun
was known to the Greeks and the wandering motion is resolved by the
Earth's planetary orbital dynamic so whatever numbskull promotes a
'wandering' Sun into the celestial arena is a traitor to his own
heritage but traitor are traitors by their self-serving act hence
Anthony does not care.


* "Yet [these orbital motions] differ in many ways [from the daily
rotation or first motion]. In the first place, they do not swing
around the same poles as the first motion, but run obliquely through
the zodiac. Secondly, these bodies are not seen moving uniformly in
their orbits, since the sun and moon are observed to be sometimes
slow, at other times faster in their course. Moreover, we see the
other five planets also retrograde at times, and stationary at either
end [of the regression]. And whereas the sun always advances along its
own direct path, they wander in various ways, straying sometimes to
the south and sometimes to the north; that is why they are called
"planets" [wanderers]." Copernicus

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:41:18 -0400, "lou feeders"
wrote:

This "Davoud", David, or whatever isn't a respecter of opinions of other
people. He tends to flame the group, sometimes with irrational statements
and then wonders why he gets criticized. Extremely opinionated and then
tries to poorly justify himself even if he's totally wrong, which happens
often.

No sensible person respects all other opinions- they only respect the
right of people to have other opinions. And no rational person can
possibly respect Gerald's opinions on astronomical matters, since he is
demonstrably wrong and fails to acknowledge that.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On Aug 5, 12:22*pm, Chris L Peterson wrote:
And no rational person can
possibly respect Gerald's opinions on astronomical matters, since he is
demonstrably wrong and fails to acknowledge that.

But this whole idea that other people's opinions can be "wrong" means
that people who go to college and have their brains mashed by learning
things like "algebra" and "calculus" can go around putting on airs and
pretending that they're better than the rest of us! We can't have
that!

John Savard