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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
om Why bother terraforming, when it's more than good enough as is? ESA's already at Venus, Russia is going back there next: where's ours? Venusian Composite Rigid Airship: so what's the big insurmountable deal? Why the hell not invest R&D into creating a viable composite rigid airship (Skylon or fat waverider spaceplane), on behalf of our doing Venus? It's not even all that hocus-pocus or having to involve the pesky likes of all those NASA/Apollo smoke and mirrors, instead it's simply doable within the regular laws of physics as is. The actual rigid airship as a Venusian atmospheric probe that'll function rather nicely below their nighttime season of clouds needn't be manned, and therefore needn't be all that large. Unlike most other planets, or even moons that we know of, Venus is just getting itself started at kicking it's own DNA butt, and otherwise Mars DNA has long been kicked, nicely cosmic zapped and then rather nicely freeze dried to death. The composite rigid airship as efficiently operating within the highly buoyant Venusian environment can at least accommodate intelligent other life in more viable ways than it's being given credit for. There has even been good enough pictures of what's been doable by others. Yet lo and behold, Venus remains as the most nearby and absolute most accessible taboo/nondisclosure other orb in our solar system, that's none the less easier and much safer than doing our moon. Unlike our nearly frozen solid to the very core of that silly old Mars, that's also representing an environment that's worthy of getting yourself cosmic TBI and otherwise rather easily pulverised to death while on that nearly naked surface, whereas on the relatively newish and evolving planetology of Venus there's hardly any cosmic or nasty forms of solar energy that's DNA lethal getting through all of that thick soup of atmosphere, nor is there hardly any need of your having to dig in in order to find more than your fair share of geothermal or terrific gas vent issues that can be put directly to the task of extracting renewable energy on the spot. The vertical atmospheric thick soup of such nifty pressure and thermal differential factors alone are clearly by themselves more than sufficient means to sustain most any mere halfwit intelligent form of life. That is unless you are one of these warm and fuzzy naysay Usenet village idiots, in which case absolutely nothing is possible in the past, present or future, so why bother. The ongoing devoid or rather ongoing topic/author banishment of such viable energy related ideas or even honest swags of viable considerations from this anti-think-tank of our status quo or bust naysay Usenet land, that's having been really good at their typically sucking and blowing worth of infomercial crapolla spewing on behalf of all things government and big-energy, is simply further proof-positive that such renewable energy while on Venusian deck has been doable. Venus is in fact a hot place, though actually it's not all that nasty of an environment. But so what if it's hot, as long as you've got such access to and having the sufficient smarts on behalf of utilizing the vast amounts of renewable energy that's already there to behold? Just because a given planet or moon is a little too hot, too cold or even too wet for our naked bodies or physiological grasp, doesn't in of itself mean that it's 100+% taboo. Escaping the lethal forms of cosmic and solar radiation seems by far more of a life essential important issue, and secondly avoiding whatever's physically incoming seems like yet another win-win for the old gipper, especially if it's having to do with avoiding getting seriously smacked in the butt by way of something that has your name on it. Venus simply couldn't possibly be any more newish, alive and kicking on the various doors of accommodating other life, especially on behalf of rather easily accommodating intelligent other life that's merely visiting, possibly even of a few locally evolved species isn't outside of this toasty Venusian box. Although, I suppose if there's lots of cosmic radiated and otherwise meteorite pulverised dry-ice, plus whatever remains of that sub-frozen regular old Mars ice that's perhaps near solid to the very icy dead (older than Earth) core of Mars is still somehow life worthy, then so be it. These pro-Mars folks should simply impress us, as in knocking our socks off, if they can. I'm absolutely certain that as of millions of years ago Mars could have had a touch of life to spare, and back a good billion some odd years even better odds yet for having sustained sizable (larger than rad-hard microbe) forms of such other local life (intelligent being yet to be proven unless merely visiting). On the other real and honest hands of utilizing those regular laws of physics, as such there is absolutely nothing that's so insurmountable about Venus. Thinking otherwise is only the proof-positive as to how terribly snookered and dumbfounded past the mindset point of no return you have become. BTW; if the absolutely bleak realm of that Mars of today has any remainders of life to behold, then upon our own pesky moon that's still more than a touch salty is absolutely loaded to the gills, with it's local and cosmic DNA morgue worth of nifty spores, and you name it. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Peggy" wrote in message
Where the heck did our all-knowing "Peggy" (aka Nut Case) come from, or otherwise go? As "peggy" being another believer in those conditional laws of physics, but otherwise a non-believer in the regular laws of physics, and in general a born-again naysayer as to everything that's of any replicated scientific evidence, you'd have to wonder how such a negative person manages to get safely out of bed, much less across most any given street. Apparently, any given nearby planet with a thousand fold more easily available raw energy that's 100% renewable, and thus also cleaner than anything Earth has to offer, is simply asking too much from such spooks, moles and wizards like our warm and fuzzy "Peggy". I happen to believe that "Saturn's Moon Titan and its atmosphere" is yet another energy well that should be tapped to the fullest, although the raw energy necessary for utilizing such a viable resource of Titan related elements represents a daunting complication, especially without a good local supply of O2. Although nearby ice that should be onboard other Saturn moons, or that of orbital icy debris, could provide unlimited volumes of O2 to burn along with Titan's gas. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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