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The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. In this era when it is possible to using planetary comparisons in many ways,the link between maximum equatorial speed ,spherical deviation and geological consequences being just one of them and not a single intelligent person here who can affirm with me that the Earth rotates 15 degrees/1669.5 km per hour. Of course we also live in an era when this race decides that it can do what King Canute knew nobody could - control the link between the astronomical cycles and terrestrial effects,in our case,the shocking belief that people,by some act,can control global temperatures within a certain range,that is not just wrong but at the brink of insanity. The way out of this mess is not to contend with insanity but to demonstrate productive areas which emerge from a clean and clear view of the link between planetary dynamics and their terrestrial effects,a good start is to affirm that the Earth's equator covers a distance of 1669.8 km per hour in spite of the 'sidereal time' proponents who cannot accept this. |
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On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:
The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms of angular velocity. Or State the 360° rotation in earth days. For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 × 10^-4 rad/s. For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days For Venus, it is 2.99244922 × 10^-7 rad/s For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days |
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On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote: The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days. For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s. For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. There ya go Sammy. Ken |
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On 1/2/10 2:00 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam wrote: On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote: The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days. For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s. For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. There ya go Sammy. Ken If you were right, Ken, would you not expect to see some correlation of plate velocity with patterns of the sun and moon? |
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On Jan 2, 12:17 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 2:00 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote: On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam wrote: On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote: The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days. For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s. For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. There ya go Sammy. Ken If you were right, Ken, would you not expect to see some correlation of plate velocity with patterns of the sun and moon? Hey there Sammy old boy, how ya doing, you like refs, so heres one, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1223133347.htm "They found the strongest effect when the pull on the Earth from the sun and moon sheared the fault in the direction it normally breaks". Of course there is much more...the Andes. Best regards Ken |
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On 1/2/10 3:31 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Jan 2, 12:17 pm, Sam wrote: On 1/2/10 2:00 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote: On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam wrote: On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote: The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days. For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s. For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. There ya go Sammy. Ken If you were right, Ken, would you not expect to see some correlation of plate velocity with patterns of the sun and moon? Hey there Sammy old boy, how ya doing, you like refs, so heres one, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1223133347.htm "They found the strongest effect when the pull on the Earth from the sun and moon sheared the fault in the direction it normally breaks". Of course there is much more...the Andes. Best regards Ken Triggering minor quakes is one thing... influencing plate notion should show up in the plate monitoring gps data. |
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On Jan 2, 8:00*pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam Wormley wrote: On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote: The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the Earth's equatorial region *rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full 40,075 km rotation in 24 hours. * *A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms * *of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days. * *For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s.. * *For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days * *For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s * *For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. There ya go Sammy. Ken Mr genius iq,turn a globe through 15 degrees and the distance traveled at the equator is 1669.8 km,at 60 degrees latitude the value is 836 km per hour/15 degrees so that all know we are on a rotating sphere with definite dimensions and rotational speeds. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GEO_Globe.jpg So,for all the hoopla you turn out to be worse than a flat Earther but astronomy will do that to you if you do not respect its geometric language.Maybe somebody else here will explain to you what Isaac was really doing with absolute/relative space and time in terms of observations/modelling based on an Ra/Dec framework,they will be the first generation in centuries to actually be capable of geometrically distinguishing what is correct and what is not instead of linguistic dithering which Newton employed to obfuscate his untutored attempt to hijack astronomy. |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:00:05 -0800 (PST), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote: That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. Well, I think that theory has been solidly demonstrated false, based on basic energy calculations. Plate tectonics on Earth are largely believed to be driven in large part by the presence of oceanic crust, which doesn't exist on Venus. There is evidence that the crust of Venus has been recently reformed, however, and that could significantly reduce the amount of heat that can escape from the mantle. Without much heat loss, you lose convection. This happens when you have radioactive heating in the core, so the lack of convection really tells us nothing about the source of internal heating. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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On Jan 2, 1:14 pm, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:00:05 -0800 (PST), "Ken S. Tucker" wrote: That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth. This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth is concerned. Well, I think that theory has been solidly demonstrated false, based on basic energy calculations. Plate tectonics on Earth are largely believed to be driven in large part by the presence of oceanic crust, which doesn't exist on Venus. There is evidence that the crust of Venus has been recently reformed, however, and that could significantly reduce the amount of heat that can escape from the mantle. Without much heat loss, you lose convection. This happens when you have radioactive heating in the core, so the lack of convection really tells us nothing about the source of internal heating. Chris, I read your post a couple of times, I guess your refering to Power Factor?. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm dense... Ken _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatoryhttp://www.cloudbait.com |
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 23:39:44 -0800 (PST), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote: Chris, I read your post a couple of times, I guess your refering to Power Factor?. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm dense... I don't know how to interpret "power factor" in this context. I don't think that's what I'm talking about. My point was that tidal heating of the Earth's interior can be ruled out because we aren't extracting enough energy from the Moon to explain the observed heating, and the lack of tectonics on Venus is explainable by a lack of convection in the mantle, which is understood as a consequence of a low thermal gradient. Radioactive heating doesn't automatically require that convection will be present. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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