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Old November 6th 09, 01:22 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle
Jonathan
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Default Could the Mars Rover Technology become Military Weapons?



Just food for thought.

Why put people on the Moon as part of a missile defense shield?
When we could have a rover climb into some little bunker/crater
and send back all kinds of infrared and radar tracking data.
Safe, sound and cheap.

This idea crossed my mind only because I ran into
this website below, which curiously has a Mars Rover
on the front page. Notice this agency specializes
in spaced based radar and infrared capabilities.
Why not Moon based too, someday?


SPACE VEHICLES DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES

Battlespace Environment - The mission of the Battlespace
Environment Division is to detect and understand the threats
in the aerospace environment to warfighting systems across
the full range of natural and man-made sources, and to
provide active and passive means to eliminate/mitigate
such threats to support Air and Space Forces for
America's Global Engagement."
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7876


Maybe someday Chinese and US rovers will be hiding, hunting
and killing each other in a fight for the ultimate high ground.
The Moon and it's glorious view of Battlespace Earth.

Oh, and how much has the military contributed to the rovers?


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Old November 4th 09, 08:55 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle
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Default Could the Mars Rover Technology become Military Weapons?

Robots have and are being, used for military purposes. I'd like to think
though, that the moon is a little bit far away to use for such things aimed
at earth.
What is more worrying is the trend from man in the loop warfare to man
advisory warfare when the human only intervenes in an emergency and most of
the decisions are made autonomously.

Brian

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Just food for thought.

Why put people on the Moon as part of a missile defense shield?
When we could have a rover climb into some little bunker/crater
and send back all kinds of infrared and radar tracking data.
Safe, sound and cheap.

This idea crossed my mind only because I ran into
this website below, which curiously has a Mars Rover
on the front page. Notice this agency specializes
in spaced based radar and infrared capabilities.
Why not Moon based too, someday?


SPACE VEHICLES DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES

Battlespace Environment - The mission of the Battlespace
Environment Division is to detect and understand the threats
in the aerospace environment to warfighting systems across
the full range of natural and man-made sources, and to
provide active and passive means to eliminate/mitigate
such threats to support Air and Space Forces for
America's Global Engagement."
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7876


Maybe someday Chinese and US rovers will be hiding, hunting
and killing each other in a fight for the ultimate high ground.
The Moon and it's glorious view of Battlespace Earth.

Oh, and how much has the military contributed to the rovers?


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Old November 4th 09, 01:14 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle
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Default Could the Mars Rover Technology become Military Weapons?

On Nov 4, 3:55�am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Robots have and are being, used for military purposes. I'd like to think
though, that the moon is a little bit far away to use for such things aimed
at earth.
What is more worrying is the trend from man in the loop warfare to man
advisory warfare when the human only intervenes in an emergency and most of
the decisions are made autonomously.

Brian

--
Brian Gaff -
Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name may be lost.
Blind user, so no pictures please!"Jonathan" wrote in message

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Just food for thought.


Why put people on the Moon as part of a missile defense shield?
When we could have a rover climb into some little bunker/crater
and send back all kinds of infrared and radar tracking data.
Safe, sound and cheap.


This idea crossed my mind only because I ran into
this website below, which curiously has a Mars Rover
on the front page. Notice this agency specializes
in spaced based radar and infrared capabilities.
Why not Moon based too, someday?


SPACE VEHICLES DIRECTORATE PRODUCT LINES


Battlespace Environment - The mission of the Battlespace
Environment Division is to detect and understand the threats
in the aerospace environment to warfighting systems across
the full range of natural and man-made sources, and to
provide active and passive means to eliminate/mitigate
such threats to support Air and Space Forces for
America's Global Engagement."
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/library/f...et.asp?id=7876


Maybe someday Chinese and US rovers will be hiding, hunting
and killing each other in a fight for the ultimate high ground.
The Moon and it's glorious view of Battlespace Earth.


Oh, and how much has the military contributed to the rovers?


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thats why it should be invested in by NASA, it has so many uses.

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everyone should pay a reasonable licensing fee no nasa to fund futher
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Old November 5th 09, 02:40 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle
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Default Could the Mars Rover Technology become Military Weapons?

On Nov 4, 3:38*pm, wrote:
There are already quite a few ground robot projects out the

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/10/tt-tt/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/11/black-knight/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...obobug-goes-wa...

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/004408.html

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...ober/Pages/Qua...

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008...bot-packs-hun/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009...lls-out-one-po...

http://www.defensereview.com/idfs-ne...ic-snake-aka-r...

Mars Rover technology is hardly needed.


Hey maybe it can work the other direction. Like the Hubble is a spy
satellite with altered optics aimed out instead of in.
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Old November 6th 09, 07:31 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle
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Default Could the Mars Rover Technology become Military Weapons?

On Nov 5, 9:40*am, |"
wrote:
On Nov 4, 3:38*pm, wrote:





There are already quite a few ground robot projects out the


http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/10/tt-tt/


http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/11/black-knight/


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...obobug-goes-wa...


http://www.defensetech.org/archives/004408.html


http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...ober/Pages/Qua...


http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008...bot-packs-hun/


http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009...lls-out-one-po...


http://www.defensereview.com/idfs-ne...ic-snake-aka-r...


Mars Rover technology is hardly needed.


Hey maybe it can work the other direction. Like the Hubble is a spy
satellite with altered optics aimed out instead of in.


Hubble wasn't a spy satellite but one of the more recent moon probes
was!

As for the rovers, rememeber they have to be self reliant on another
planet, many earth bound ones can use batteries that are replaced
frequently, be controlled by wire, etc. - not so the Mars rovers!

But the tech can be applied in space as lessons are learned, so your
point is valid indeed!
 




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