Smoking on the grounds of a public star party

OK, I admit I haven't been to any of the major observing events that take
place annually around the country, or else I'd already know the answer to
this question. Perhaps some will remember a similar question I posed a
couple years ago about this matter. Anyhow, here goes...

What's the rules regarding smoking on the grounds where folks have set up
equipment? Our 57 year old astronomy club is, once again, arguing about
this - well, some members are.

We FINALLY posted 'No Smoking' signs in our observatory after much heated
debate - and lost some members over it. The rest of us are relieved to be
out of the smoke, I assure you.

Is it the general rule that there's NO SMOKING anywhere on the grounds of an
observing event??

Clear Dark Steady Skies,
Dave Jessie

Dave Jessie wrote:

OK, I admit I haven't been to any of the major observing events that take
place annually around the country, or else I'd already know the answer to
this question. Perhaps some will remember a similar question I posed a
couple years ago about this matter. Anyhow, here goes...

What's the rules regarding smoking on the grounds where folks have set up
equipment? Our 57 year old astronomy club is, once again, arguing about
this - well, some members are.

We FINALLY posted 'No Smoking' signs in our observatory after much heated
debate - and lost some members over it. The rest of us are relieved to be
out of the smoke, I assure you.

Is it the general rule that there's NO SMOKING anywhere on the grounds of an
observing event??

I don't believe that my club has a written rule. But nobody smokes on
the observing field at our star parties, which are held in a county
park that is large enough to permit smokers to move some distance away
when they want to light up. In today's social climate that is
considered proper behaviour no matter what the occasion or venue. We
have bought a 10-ft dome that will house a restored antique refractor
for use in public outreach. Smoking will definitely be banned in the
observatory.

Davoud

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Dave Jessie wrote:

OK, I admit I haven't been to any of the major observing events that take
place annually around the country, or else I'd already know the answer to
this question. Perhaps some will remember a similar question I posed a
couple years ago about this matter. Anyhow, here goes...

What's the rules regarding smoking on the grounds where folks have set up
equipment? Our 57 year old astronomy club is, once again, arguing about
this - well, some members are.

We FINALLY posted 'No Smoking' signs in our observatory after much heated
debate - and lost some members over it. The rest of us are relieved to be
out of the smoke, I assure you.

Is it the general rule that there's NO SMOKING anywhere on the grounds of an
observing event??

Clear Dark Steady Skies,
Dave Jessie

I fight with the "assholes" in my club about this all the time to no avail -
and I am a smoker!!!!!!!!!!! Smoking in an observatory next to the
telescopes I have cleaned and maintained etc for years? Go somplace else. Im a
smoker and I dont do it! Smoking on the grounds next to people doing
astronomy? Have some damned manners and go off to
the side or into the woods! Why does this even require debate?

We have some who try and do bring their dogs and cats into our
observatories - I just go nuts but I get punished if I say a word. We
have another guy who insists on having his cigar at the eyepiece -
our Astronomique Extraordinaire Royale. We have another idiot
who actually tells his kids to **** in some corner of the building
vs going outside! ............... You name it - Ive seen it.

**** astronomy clubs and the ASSHOLES in them!

Iowa Astronomer.

Davoud wrote:

Dave Jessie wrote:

OK, I admit I haven't been to any of the major observing events that take
place annually around the country, or else I'd already know the answer to
this question. Perhaps some will remember a similar question I posed a
couple years ago about this matter. Anyhow, here goes...

What's the rules regarding smoking on the grounds where folks have set up
equipment? Our 57 year old astronomy club is, once again, arguing about
this - well, some members are.

We FINALLY posted 'No Smoking' signs in our observatory after much heated
debate - and lost some members over it. The rest of us are relieved to be
out of the smoke, I assure you.

Is it the general rule that there's NO SMOKING anywhere on the grounds of an
observing event??

I don't believe that my club has a written rule. But nobody smokes on
the observing field at our star parties, which are held in a county
park that is large enough to permit smokers to move some distance away
when they want to light up. In today's social climate that is
considered proper behaviour no matter what the occasion or venue. We
have bought a 10-ft dome that will house a restored antique refractor
for use in public outreach. Smoking will definitely be banned in the
observatory.

Davoud


You better oput a smoke detector in it for proof! I guarantee you
some jerk will smoke int heir sometime - absolute guarantee of the
priveleged class (the same assholes that dont want telescopes covcered and dont
want to pay for a gate key who are the club
Presidnet's best friend)! Good_luck.






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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

Dave Jessie wrote:
OK, I admit I haven't been to any of the major observing events that take
place annually around the country, or else I'd already know the answer to
this question. Perhaps some will remember a similar question I posed a
couple years ago about this matter. Anyhow, here goes...

What's the rules regarding smoking on the grounds where folks have set up
equipment? Our 57 year old astronomy club is, once again, arguing about
this - well, some members are.

We FINALLY posted 'No Smoking' signs in our observatory after much heated
debate - and lost some members over it. The rest of us are relieved to be
out of the smoke, I assure you.

Is it the general rule that there's NO SMOKING anywhere on the grounds of an
observing event??



No. At most star parties, pipes and cigars are prohibited or
discouraged from the observing field. Cigarettes? Some folks still
smoke on the field, many have quit, and increasing numbers of those who
still smoke adjourn to the field edge for their nicotine fix.

Yeah, well, _some_ of the people in 'em, anyway. ;-)


Trailer Trash ReUnion wrote:

**** astronomy clubs and the ASSHOLES in them!

Davoud:
I don't believe that my club has a written rule. But nobody smokes on
the observing field at our star parties, which are held in a county
park that is large enough to permit smokers to move some distance away
when they want to light up. In today's social climate that is
considered proper behaviour no matter what the occasion or venue. We
have bought a 10-ft dome that will house a restored antique refractor
for use in public outreach. Smoking will definitely be banned in the
observatory.

Trailer Trash ReUnion:
You better oput a smoke detector in it for proof! I guarantee you
some jerk will smoke int heir sometime - absolute guarantee of the
priveleged class (the same assholes that dont want telescopes covcered and
dont want to pay for a gate key who are the club Presidnet's best friend)!

Sorry to hear about the problems your club is having.

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

Trailer Trash ReUnion wrote:
nothing of value

Looks like we've picked up another one. Name kind of makes it
obvious...

Austin

Trailer Trash ReUnion wrote:
I fight with the "assholes" in my club about this all the time to no avail -
and I am a smoker!!!!!!!!!!! Smoking in an observatory next to the
telescopes I have cleaned and maintained etc for years? Go somplace else. Im a
smoker and I dont do it! Smoking on the grounds next to people doing
astronomy? Have some damned manners and go off to
the side or into the woods! Why does this even require debate?


This a-hole used to smoke next to the telescope all the time, and then
they went and named the Space Telescope after him!

http://opostaff.stsci.edu/~levay/pre...g/10_12-17.jpg

Tom

Dave Jessie wrote:

Is it the general rule that there's NO SMOKING anywhere on the grounds of an
observing event??

Clear Dark Steady Skies,
Dave Jessie






I don't know about other places, but at public events
round here, I have smoked, and quite a few of the
public do there as well. At public, and private events
I always try and setup downwind, and or walk away
from everyone else. I make a point of it every time.
Other members in our club smoke as well.

But most observing fields are large, and I see no
reason why both types of people cant exist at the
same time at such an event.

I mean we are in the outdoors after all.....






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