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WORLDS IN COLLISION

(the start of Chapter One)
By Immanuel Velikovsky
(Published in 1950)

In an immense universe a little globe revolves around a star; it is
the third in the row -- Mercury, Venus, Earth -- of the planetary
family.

It is of a solid core covered over most of its surface with liquid,
and it has a gaseous envelope. Living creatures fill the liquid;
other living creatures fly in the gas; and still others creep and walk
upon the ground on the bottom of the gaseous ocean.

Man, a being of erect stature, thinks himself the prince of creation.
He felt like this long before he, by his own efforts, came to know how
to fly on wings of metal around the globe. He felt godlike long before
he could talk to his fellow-man on the other side of the globe.

Today he can see the microcosm in a drop and the elements in the
stars. He knows the laws governing the living cell with its
chromosomes, and the laws governing the macrocosm of the sun,
moon, planets and stars.

He assumes that gravitation keeps the planetary system together,
man and beast on their planet, the sea within its borders.

For millions and millions of years, he maintains, the planets have
rolled along the same paths, and their moons around them, and man
in these eons has arisen from a one-cell infusorium all the long way
up to the ladder to his status of Homo sapiens.

Is man's knowledge now nearly complete? Are only a few more steps
necessary to conquer the universe: to extract the energy of the atom
-- since these pages were written this has already been done -- to
cure cancer, to control genetics, to communicate with other planets
and learn if they have living creatures, too

Here begins Homo ignoramus. He does not know what life is or how it
came to be and whether it orginated form inorganic matter.
He does not know whether other planets of this sun or of other suns
have life on them, and if they have, whether the forms of life there
are like those around us, ourselves included.

He does not know how this solar system came into being, although he
has built up a few hypotheses about it. He knows only that the solar
system was constructed billions of years ago.

He does not know what this mysterious force of gravitation is that
holds him and his fellow man on the other side of the planet with
their feet on the ground, although he regards the phenomenon itself
as "the law of laws."

He does not know what the earth looks like five miles under his feet.
He does not know how mountains came into existence or what caused
the emergence of the continents, although he builds hypotheses about
these, nor does he know from where oil came -- again hypotheses.

He does not know why, only a short time ago, a thick glacial sheet
pressed upon most of Europe and North America, as he believes it did;
nor how palms could grow above the polar circle, nor how it came about
that the same fauna fill the inner lakes of the Old and the New
World.

He does not know where the salt in the sea came from.

Although man knows that he has lived on this planet for millions of
years, he finds a recorded history of only a few thousand years. And
even these few thousand years are not sufficently well known.

Why did the Bronze Age preceed the Iron Age even though iron is more
widely distributed over the world and its manufacture is simpler than
that of the alloy of copper and tin?

By what mechanical means were structures of immense blocks built
on the high mountains of the Andes?

What caused the legend of the Flood to orginate in all the countries
of the world? Is there any adequate meaning to the term
"antediluvian"? From what experiences grew the eschatological pictures
of the end of the world?

In this work, of which the present book is the first part, some of
these questions will be answered, but only at the cost of giving up
certain notions now regarded as sacred laws in science -- the millions
of years of the present constitution of the solar system and the
harminous revolution of the earth -- with all their implications as
regards the theory of evolution...

Rest of Chapter 1, then 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11 ... 64-65-66-67,
et al, as soon as I get a new ribbon...

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"On the eve of the publication of Worlds in Collision
in 1949, the philosopher H. Butterword wrote in "The
Origin of Modern Science":

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To these words -- and to the astute observations
and conclusions offered by Immanuel Velikovsky
in "Worlds in Collision" -- the leaders of established
science reacted violently, dishonestly and rather
disgracefully (fortunately, now a matter of public record).

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EDITORIAL IN THE DAILY PRINCETONIAN
(February 1964)

"While it could have been assumed that anyone challenging
the basic premises of Newton and Darwin might be laying himself open
to a certain amount of argument, the personal vituperation, deliberate
misrepresentations of facts, offhand misquotations, efforts at
suppression of the books containing the theories, and the denial of
the right to rebut opponents in professional journals that Dr.
Velikovsky encountered indicate that far more was going on than 'mere'
challenge to established ideas.

"What the Velikovsky affair made crystal clear . . . is that the
theories of science may be held not only for the truth they embody,
but because of the vested interests they represent for those
who hold them."

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Weote W. J. Brown, in The Truth, London...
"Make a note of the name (Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky).
It will make news for a long while to come.

"Possibly it will go ringing down the corridors of Time.
Or possibly not, for the established orthodoxies are more
than orthodoxies.They are interests; and interests
have at their command immense powers of suppression.
"The man is a heretic, of course -- and I see The Bell,
The Book and The Candle advancing.
"Velikovsky's heresies are enormous. They reach to
the stars . . . And what a case he makes!
"Already the orthodoxies have marked him down.
Already the machines of repression are at work."

(How right he was!)

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In 1963, the editors of American Behavioral Scientist magazine
were convinced of the merits of Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky's science
-- contained in "Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval,"
published in the early 1950s -- and were aware of the mushroom
cloud of denial that had been generated from within the scientific
community.

The editors considered these events to be of major importance
to the history of science.

Therefore, they displayed tremendous courage by devoting their
September 1963 issue to defending Velikovsky.

It contained three papers dealing with the Velikovsky controversy --
by Ralph Juergens, Livio Stecchini and publisher Alfred de Grazia, as
well as a paper submitted by Velikovsky himself.

Three years later -- in 1966 -- this edition of American Behavioral
Scientist wound up as a hard-cover book entitled "The Velikovsky
Affair: The Warfare of Science and Scientism," edited by Alfred de
Grazia and published by University Books Inc., New Hyde Park, N.Y.

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"THE VELIKOVSKY AFFAIR"
Foreward
(by Alfred de Grazia)

In 1950, a book called "Worlds in Collision," by Dr. Immanuel
Velikovsky, gave rise to a controversy in scientific and intellectual
circles about scientific theories and the sociology of science.

Dr. Velikovsky's historical and cosmological concepts, bolstered by
his acknowledged scholarship, constituted a formidable assault on
certain established theories of astronomy, geology and historical
biology, and on the heroes of those sciences.

Newton, himself, and Darwin were being challenged, and indeed
the general orthodoxy of an ordered universe.

The substance of Velikovsky's ideas is briefly presented in the first
chapter of this book.

What must be called the scientific establishment rose in arms, not
only against th new Velikovsky theories but against the man himself.
Efforts were made to block dissemination of Dr. Velikovsky's ideas,
and even to punish supporters of his investigations.

Universities, scientific societies, publishing houses, the popular press
were approached and threatened; social pressures and professional
sanctions were invoked to control public opinion.

There is no doubt that in a totalitarian society, not only would Dr.
Velikovsky's reputation have been at stake, but also his right to
pursue his inquiry, and perhaps his own personal safety.

As it was, the "establishment" succeeded in building a wall of
unfavorable sentiment around him: to thousands of scholars
the name of Velikovsky bears the taint of fantasy, science-fiction
and publicity.

He could not be suppressed entirely. In the next few years
he published three more books. He carried on a large
correspondence. And he was helped by friends and by a large
general public composed of persons outside of the establishments
of science.

The probings of spacecraft tended to confirm -- never to disprove --
his arguments.

Eventually, the venomous aspects of the controversy,
the efforts at suppression, the campaign of vilification
loomed almost as large, in their consequences to science,
as the original issue.

Social scientists, who had been generally aware of Dr. Velikovsky's
work, now found themselves in the thick of the conflict.
The involvement of the social and behavioral sciences in the
scientific theories of Velikovsky was higher than had been earlier
appreciated.

The social sciences are the basis of Velikvsky's work: despite his
proficiency in the natural sciences, it is by the use of the
methodology of social science that Velikovsky launched his challenge
to accepted cosmological theories.

No one pretends that this method is adequate. New forms of
interdisciplinary research are needed to wed, for example, the study
of myth with the study of meteorities.

Nor does one have to agree that Velikovsky is the greatest technician
of mythology, even while granting his great conceptual and
synthesizing powers.

Whatever the scientific substance, the controversy inself could not
be avoided or dismissed by behavioral science.

The problem of sicence is one of the agitating problems
of the twentieth century. The issues are clear: Who determines
scientific truth: Who are its high priests, and what is their
warrant? How do they establish their canons? What effects
do they have on the freedom of inquiry, and on public interest?

In the end, some judgment must be passed upon the behavior of the
scientific world and, if adverse, some remedies must be proposed . . .

It is our hope that the publication of these papers in the present
volume (a revised and enlarged version) will make it less easy for
Velikovsky's new work to be suppressed, or lightly dismissed.

We hope, too, that they will help scientists and interested laymen
everywhere to rehearse the problems and to reform the errors
of the vast enterprise of science.

(But a half-century late, things sure haven't changed one iota.)

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DEJA VIEW -- 1950's ALL OVER AGAIN
Deceit, Deception, Collusion and Conspiracy


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MAN AS OLD AS COAL
All Specimens Found Between Anthracite Veins


(Strata geologically dated at a minimum of 280 million years)

Here are just a few of the thousands upon thousands of specimens
of petrified bones, teeth and/or even soft organs -- some human --
that I have discovered between two separate anthracite veins
in Northeastern Pennsylvania over the past 22 years.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z5gall.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z9lung.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/pp/MVC-022S.JPG


Strange, according to scientific doctrine, they couldn't possibly
have been found in Carboniferous strata, dated at a minimum
of 280 million years.

You see, every scientific textbook insists that no large land
animals, let alone man, existed back then. Hell, man wouldn't begin
evolving until multi-millions of years later, the pseudos proclaimed.

But the incredible arsenal of petrified bones, teeth and even soft
organs proves -- beyond doubt -- that man and large land animals
indeed had been around when coal was being formed. Otherwise,
their mortal remains could not have been preserved between layers
of anthracite as the result of a catastrophe beyond our wildest
imagination.

And, since this is the grim evidence that a catastrophe happened
before, there is NO question that it could happen again.

Velikovsky provided evidence of catastrophes in his two books,
"Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval," published back
in the early 1950s. In them, he offered undeniable evidence of
calamities beyond human comprehension but was ridiculed
and badmouthed by members of the Scientific Establishment.

Here's a copy of these two books, in paperback, and an explanation
why Velikovsky was treated with scorn and contempt, which is how
members of the Scientific Establishment have treated me for the last
21 1/2 years.

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http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-010S.JPG
http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-011S.JPG


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A longtime newspaperman, I figured -- when realizing I was getting
the shaft from the Scientific Establishment -- I'd get a fair shake
from newspapers in an effort to tell my story.

I thought the editors would be genuinely interested in what might've
sounded like a farfetched story, except that it was backed up by
petrified bones, teeth and soft organs as old as coal.

Reporters from the Allentown (Pa.) Call-Chronicle and Las Vegas
Sun, to mention just two, were greatly impressed. But when their
stories appeared in print, it took my breath away. The articles were
completely negative, making me look like that proverbial horse's
ass.

Naturally, there was nothing I could do about it, so I had to give up
on newspapers completely. I had long known the New York Times,
Washington Post and Philadelphia Inquirer wouldn't touch it because
they had several opportunities to do so but bowed to their vested
interests and ignored me.

Ditto for the TV network news shows like "60 Minutes."

For the longest time, it appeared the world would never know the truth
about the catastrophe that decimated both man and animal while coal
was being formed.

Then a miracle happened -- along came the Internet. It gave me a way
to reach the pubic but, of course, the public wasn't paying attention
because members of the Scientific Establishment kept making me
look like a fool and an imbecile.

And, if you recall, they had been doing a mighty fine job of it
right up until yesterday. That's when members of the Scientific
Establishment got the second biggest shock of their lives, dwarfed
only by the attack on the Twin Towers.

Suddenly overnight, with the presentation of an arsenal of physical
evidence, the ridicule and character assassination have eased
somewhat.

Suddenly, their cannons ran out of ammunition, accusations that
I'm a liar and a fraud.

Suddenly, these Clown Princes of Sciences -- long having made
a joke at the expense of sacred Science -- finally realized that
their involvement in deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy
has caught up with them.

These Omniscient Buffoons have defended their colleagues
who, with incredible audacity, have made a mockery of physical
evidence, totally ignoring it and sometimes even tampering with it.

Thomas Alva Edison probably put in a nutshell what they were
doing for so long, and my dear friend Clayton was right on target,
too.

http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/quotesnew.gif


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Response Part V:

========= SOME OF THE SPECIMENS =========

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THE VERY FIRST DISCOVERY


The following is the very first discovery of petrified bone in
coal-bearing Carboniferous strata in June 1981.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/first.jpg


The specimen, which I found by accident, resembled a giant skull
and the Smithsonian expressed an interest after receiving a photo,
inviting me to bring it down to Washington so it could be examined
firsthand.

Three of its "experts" -- an anthropologist, a paleontologist and a
geologist -- looked it over carefully but, after a few minutes,
concurred that it was nothing more than a rock or concretion,
certainly nothng that had ever lived.

No one mentioned that a microscopic study of the specimen's
cellular structure would accurately identify whether it is or is not
bone. (I had no knowledge of this fact at the time and wouldn't
be aware of it until many months later)

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/textbook.gif
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/thefactthat.gif


In any event, while preparing to leave the Smithsonian, I politely
asked if they would want to keep the specimen, perhaps to break
apart the jaw-like area to see if teeth could be found inside. The
three "experts" -- Joseph Brown and Robert McCurdy, the only
two names I remember -- laughed at me and said it would be
an absolute waste of their time.

About a month later -- rather discouraged -- I decided to search
the interior of the jaw-like area on my own. It began with a nail
to penetrate the rock hardness, then using all sorts of small tools
to reach inside and, strangely, begin pulling out what resembled
brownish dirt.

I was mysified that some sort of cavity existed and contacted
the Smithsonian about this -- but was ignored.

After several weeks of part-time labor, I found a pair of peculiar
objects inside. Photos were taken, greatly enlarged and sent to
Krogman, the bone expert.

Our friendship had begun months previous when I had driven
to Lancaster to show him the first strange sPecimen I had found
that had come from between coal veins -- the large skull that
the Smithsonian later dismissed as a rock.

Krogman studied the photo of the inclusion and then told me over
the phone that the object is definitely a premolar tooth because
"I can see a pair of cusps."

Here's the photo that Krogman had examined, with the dime
offering an indication of size.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-014S.JPG


The photo below shows another view of where the premolar was
attached.

http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/z1.jpg


Krogman suggested an infrared scan be performed and it was done
at American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va. Here's the result
of the test:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/graph.gif


This is what the laboratory stated in its official report:

http://edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/result.gif


It meant that the inclusion in the jaw-like area was neither rock
nor concretion but something that once lived.

When the scan was interpreted later, this fact was confirmed.

http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/compatible.gif


It also should be emphasized that microscopic study of the
skull-like object was conducted and Haversian canals -- miniscule
circles, the tell-tale sign of bone -- were visible.

It had prompted Krogman, at one point, to offer great encourgement,
as he followed the discoveries with great interest.:

http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/krogquote.gif

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PETRIFIED HUMAN SKULL


The following specimen was identified by Krogman as a petrified
human calvarium -- a skull with the eyesockets broken off -- after
he personally had examined it and even measured it with
caliphers, expressing pleasure with the results..

Krogman, who was personally invited by the Egyptian government
to be present when a Pharoah's tomb was opened years before, is
shown holding the calvarium in the second photo.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/krogwskull.jpg


Moments after this photo was taken of Krogman with the specimen,
an associate -- a medical doctor -- walked into his office at the
Cooper Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., and he told him to come closer
to see "the oldest human skull ever found."

Two other photos of the specimen:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG


Meanwhile, a CATscan revealed a second protrusion not visible
to the naked eye but located precisely where it would be expected
to be found in a human cranium.

Here's a copy of that scan:

http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg


This specimen also tested positive for the presence of Haversian
canals under microscopic scrutiny.

Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed testing
of calculus analysis by crystallography on the specimen and
found "a composition of dried blood intermingled with a few
small crystals resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate."

The laboratory's official report follows:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-012S.JPG

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ANOTHER PETRIFIED HUMAN SKULL -- IN A BOULDER


Another petrified human cranium was found approximately
a year later only a short distance from where the human
calvarium was discovered.

It was -- still is -- embedded in a boulder that must weigh at
least 3,000 pounds.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg


The Smithsonian was sent a photograph and Raymond Rye,
musem specialist, replied in writing: "The object ... does resemble
the outline of a human skull ... We must do a microscopic study
of the outer rind to determine if it has the structure of bone."

http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/rr072782.gif


The Smithsonian had been mailed granules, as requested, then
weeks later replied: "X-ray analysis of the material reveals it to be
quartz, the most abundant material of the earth's crust. So, although
the enigmatic object exposed in the boulder may resemble a hominid
skull, its mineral compostion is definitely not that of bone."

http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/rr090982.gif


The fact is, "x-ray analysis" is NOTan appropriate test to identify
the presence or absence of cellular structure.

Later, a microcopic photo of granules removed from the specimen
revealed the presence of Haversian canals. (Actually, I knew they
did ahead of time because I had examined other granules
microscopically before sending them to the Smithsonian.)

Here's one of those microscopic photos of the cell structu

http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/proof1.jpg

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PETRIFIED HUMAN FEMUR


This is a petrified human femur still embedded in shale, a near-cousin
of coal. Portions of the bulb ends have broken off.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z6femur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z7femur.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Spec/MVC-001S.JPG


Since a femur measures approximately one-fourth of a human
being's height, the femur belonged to someone at least 7 1/2-foot
tall.

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PORTION OF A TIBIA (Fraudulently Tested)


This specimen was identified as a portion of a tibia by Krogman
and was subjected to one of the greatest cover-ups in the history
of science.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/newtibia.jpg


Andrew Macrae, then of Calgary University, performed fraudulent
testing when entrusted to examine its cellular structure and publish
the microscopic photos on his web page. Instead. he posted
microscopic photos of a rock or a concretion.

Macrae undoubtedly was advised and assisted by Paul Myers, then
of Temple University in Philadelphia and now at the University of
Minnesota.

When charged with participating in the scam, Myers adamantly denied
it. Then, when I suggested officials of Temple University check their
long-distance telephone calls during the time that Macrae was
"testing" the specimen in the summer of 1996, Myers suddenly admitted
in the talk.origins news group that he had made many phone calls
to Calgary University in that time span but on other business.

It didn't end there. Myers later admitted in talk.origins that he had
FLOWN to Calgary one weekend during that same time period and had
spent time on campus. He said he didn't even have a chance to say
hello to Macrae, claiming he was there on other business.

Here are two additional photos of the portion of the petrified tibia,
(known as EC96-001 for Macrae's fraudulent testing purposes).

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib2.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib1.jpg


In addition, a scanning electronic microscope (SEM) was used
to examine the interior surface features of this specimen and then
compare it with cadaver bone at the same power magnification. These
are the photos at 2,000-times magnification:.

http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/bones.jpg


(They would look incredibly similiar if the grains were lying in
exactly the same direction.)

The left photo in the first URL below shows what Andrew Macrae
posted on his web page, claiming it was the cell structure of
C96-001 and nothing like bone should look like (in the right photo).
The next two photos show EC96-001's true cell structure.

http://www.edconrad.com/canals/ts_compare1.jpg
http://edconrad.com/canals/slide1.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/canals/0505160x.jpg


It was just one of several fraudulent maneuvers perpetrated
by members of the Scientifiic Establishment over the past 21 1/2
years when the first specimen -- the large petrified skull -- was
discovered.

Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed calculus
analysis by crystallography on EC96-001 and determined that it
"consisted predominately of dried blood and protein."

That report follows:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-006S.JPG


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PETRIFIED MANDIBLES


Here's an assorment of miscellaneous specimens, primarily portions
of petrified mandibles (jaw bones), found between the same coal veins:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-010S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-003S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-004S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-005S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-007S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-008S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-009S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-011S.JPG


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PETRIFIED HUMAN LUNG


Here's a petrified human lung found between coal veins.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-015S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-016S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-017S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-018S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-019S.JPG


A lung is a soft organ and, as such, many contend it can never
petrify. However, in recent years it was established conclusively
that soft organs can indeed be subjected to the petrification process.

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PETRIFIED GALL BLADDER, WITH GALLSTONE


Here's a petrified gall bladder, and a CATscan revealed the presence
of a gall stone inside.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.jpg


This is one of the specimens that also was tested at American
Medical Laboratories via calculus analysis by crystallography.

It revealed the specimen "consists of a few small pieces of dried
blood," adding that "none of the constituents normally found
in urinary calculi are present." (which comes as no surprise since
the specimen it tested is petrified).

That report follows:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-010S.JPG

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PETRIFIED HUMAN BRAIN


This is a petrified human brain (one hemisphere):

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-002S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-003S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-004S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-005S.JPG

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ANOTHER PETRIFIED BONE


Here's another petrified bone (a knee?):

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix4/MVC-013S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix4/MVC-012S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix4/MVC-014S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpiv4/MVC-015S.JPG

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PAIR OF PETRIFIED FETUSES


Here are a pair of petrified fetuses.The large one, which has
been transformed to a coal-like substance, measures 6 1/2
inches in length.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-010S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-011S.JPG

===============================================

PETRIFIED DINOSAUR FOOT


Here's a portion of a dinosaur foot embedded in slate (or shale):

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-013S.JPG


It should be noted that a third "toe" was later found embedded
in the slate where it would be expected to be. A video tape exists
showing the top cover of slate patiently being removed, revealing
the third "toe" just beneath the surface.

I should mention that the petrified femur and petrifed dinosaur
foot remain as you see them -- still embedded in slate (or shale)
-- the way they were steamshoveled from between coal veins.

They are somewhere in this photo, taken from approximately five
miles up, of scar-marked land that was strip-mined of its coal. But
those remarkable discoveries are still there if you'd like to search.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/MVC-015S.JPG


=============================================


HANDCRAFTED WOODEN TOOL


Here's a petrified handcrafted wooden handle which has been
transformed to anthracite. It also was found between the same
two coal veins.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-001S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-002S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-004S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG
============================================


PETRIFIED BONE EMBEDDED IN SLATE


Here's a portion of petrified bone still embedded in slate,
confirming that it's older than the material in which it was encased.
Obviously, that material had to be fluid or in a fluidy state for
something to harden around it.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-014S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-015S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-016S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-017S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-018S.JPG

============================================

GIANT CANINE TOOTH

Here's a giant canine tooth, found between the same coal veins:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-009S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-007S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-008S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-006S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-010S.JPG


(I accidentally dropped the giant tooth on the sidewalk in Hazleton,
Pa. -- too heavy for the paper bag --and the tip broke off but the
two pieces fit together almost perfectly.)

================================================ ==


PETRIFIED FETUS EMBEDDED IN SLATE


Here's another petrified fetus, this one still embedded in slate
(or shale).

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-002S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-004S.JPG

=============================================== =
PORTION OF GIANT PETRIFIED SCORPION


This is a portion of a giant prehistoric scorpion that was
identified as such by Wilton Krogman.

When the world famous bone expert examined this specimen
found between coal veins, he first turned to me and mentioned
that he had performed countless disections of scorpions in college.

"What you have, Mr. Conrad (never Ed), is a portion of a giant
prehistoric scorpion," he told me.

When discovered, the specimen was broken in two parts but they
fit together perfectly.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-022S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-008S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-017S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-006S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-021S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-009S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-019S.JPG


This particular specimen was the subject of another cover-up
by members of the Scientific Establishment -- the Department of
Entomology at Penn State University.

Penn State actually has batted 0-for-3 with its attempted
cover-ups of my specimens: First, its Department of Paleontology
(Roger Cuffey); Second, its Department of Anthropology (Robert
Eckhardt). Third, its Department of Entomology (Charles Pitts).

===========================================


YERKES CONFIRMS SPECIMEN IS BONE


One of the specimens found between anthracite veins was positively
identified as petrified bone by the Yerkes Regional Primate Research
Center at Emory University in Atlanta, Ga., which Krogman described
as "the most prestigious institution of its kind in the world."

Jeremy Dahl, one of its bone experts who examined and tested it,
even put it in writing and signed his name, also making a drawing
of the specimen that he had examined and tested..

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES1.TIF
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES2.TIF
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES3.TIF


Dahl definitely had examined the specimen's cell structure because
he had cut off a slice while it was is possession.

=============================================== ==


PETRIFIED HOMINID MANDIBLE


Here's another petrified hominid jaw, the frontal portion. Inclusions
are embedded in it, possibly teeth or even part of the tongue.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-001S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-003S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-004S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-005S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-006S.JPG
============================================== ==


ANOTHER PETRIFIED SOFT ORGAN


Here's another soft organ that had petrified:

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-008S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-011S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-010S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-009S.JPG

=============================================


PETRIFIED EGGS


Here are what appear to be petrified eggs. About eight of them
were found together more than 200 feet below the original
surface of the ground (on the side wall of a stripping pit).

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-021F.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-022F.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-023F.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-024F.JPG


Here's where they were found: (that's a bulldozer):

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-015S.JPG


==========================================

PETRIFIED BONE EMBEDDED IN SLATE


Here are other specimens of petrified bone embedded in slate.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-014S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-015S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-018S.JPG

===========================================


SOMEWHAT SIMILIAR SPECIMENS


Here are two strange specimens, almost similiar. What makes them
so intriguing is that they were found between anthracite veins some
40 miles apart -- one near Shenandoah and the other near Wilkes-Barre.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-016S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-017S.JPG
============================================== =


THREE INTRIGUING SPECIMENS

Here are three intriguing specimens:
(For the kids' sake, let's call 'em "The Three Tenors.)

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-004S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-005S.JPG


============================================== =


RAYMOND DART IMPRESSED


The late, great Raymond Dart, MD., relished the opportunity to examine
some of the specimens after Krogman had informed him about them.

This photo shows Dart holding what Krogman identified as a calvarium,
a human cranium with the eye sockets broken off.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/dart.jpg


Here's Raymond Dart's letter:

===============================================
28 October, 1983

Dear Mr. Conrad:

This is being written as a follow-up to our meeting here in
Philadelphia on Saturday, Oct. 15, during which I had the
opportunity to examine many of the rock-like objects you
had discovered in the coal fields of Pennsylvania, near
Shenandoah.
In my opinion, the vast majority bear the contour of bone
and may well be petrified bone.

I was particularly intrigued by one of your specimens which
I agree bears a distinct resemblance to a dainosaur head
or a homind skullcap, heavily petrified.
Based on our vast ignorance about vulconology, as regards
both anatomy and anthropology, I am of the opinion that your
findings definitely warrant intense investigation by that subject's
foremost experts, especially here in America where so many
volcanic disturbances occur even today.
Yours sincerely,
Raymond A. Dart (signed)


Raymond A. Dart, M.D.
Institute of Man
The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential
8801 Stenton Avenue
Philadelphia, Pa. 19118


Here's a photo of Raymond Dart with Ed Conrad (the photo was
taken by a house painter who obliged by decending a ladder
to do so.)

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/wdart.jpg


===============================================


DINOSAUR FOOT EMBEDDED IN SLATE


That man co-existed with dinosaurs -- back while anthracite was
being formed -- gains credence with these photos of a petrified
dinosaur foot embedded in slate.

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z3dino.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/Dfoot.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/MVC-039S.JPG


===========================================

PECULIAR SPECIMEN


Another specimen of petrified bone embedded in slate

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate1.jpg
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate5.jpg


The original Easter bunny? Then, again, it might be the head
of a petrified jackass. And, IF it is, it would be rather appropriate.

The Scientific Establishment -- led by its worldwide brood of
arrogant, defiant tenured fossils -- has long been treating
John Q. Public, and his kids, like a jackass, promoting fairy tales
and molesting truth.

Over the past 22 years, it has engaged in deceit, deception, collusion
and conspiracy -- of MONUMENTAL proportions -- and one of the
ringleaders has been the Smithsonian Institution.

=============================================== =
=============================================== =


And here's my final thought (six pictures should be worth
6,000 words):

http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-001S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-002S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-003S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-011S.JPG
http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-012S.JPG
http://edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/zedjaw.jpg


No question, members of the scientific establishment academia
-- professors, students and alumni -- have long been fearful
of me and my discoveries because of the dire consequences
they realized what truth would bring.

And well they should have been because now that time has
come. They're finally being put in their place and recognized
for the total disgrace to science that they have been.

NOW they're not just *afraid* of Ed Conrad. They're terrified.

Ed Conrad
http://www.edconrad.com

Man as Old as Coal

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"Ed Conrad" wrote in message
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snip -- Ed's narcististic off-topic twaddle deleated

Ed's brain as ossified as Coal.






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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:42:38 GMT, Ed Conrad
wrote:



WORLDS IN COLLISION

(the start of Chapter One)
By Immanuel Velikovsky
(Published in 1950)



That's right Ed. You continue to cling to outdated theories
and live in the past. The rest of us enjoy the realities of the
present.







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