Geoengineering via Moon relocation and China exploiting itsinnards / Brad Guth

I'm involved where that's appropriate Saul.

The nuclear salt water rocket is in process and I can't speak definitively about that yet, however, I can talk about some other interesting developments nearer term.

The New Zealand based company Rocket Lab has been acquired by US investors and is moving toward a 3 stage launcher of high efficiency operating in Auckland using carbon fibre composites.

I will launch a satellite network to give the world wireless broadband services, including digital financial services using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0e2FJmXujA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAqaheHHIlQ

I am speaking with Campbell Aviation about building a Coanda Effect Aircraft similar to the Avro Y-1. Martin Jet Pack is building a small wearable VTOL vehicle which also has skills in this area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4Lgv1L7VY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZEAZksq38k

Soon, I will announce a VTOL disk craft that has considerable range and be capable of ballistic boost and re-entry.

http://www.google.com/patents/US3062482

It will work independently as a turbojet powered aircraft or with a collection of booster elements to achieve spaceflight.

It makes use of micro-arrays of engines (larger than mems, easily constructed with 3D print techniques) with extremely low structure fraction using advanced composites throughout.

The airframe is similar to the Avro Y-1 airframe and contains LOX/Kero with a surplus of Kero for aerial maneuvering following re-entry.

For orbital operations the airframe is surrounded by six tanks, each feeding the aerospike engine in the tail of the airframe which lifts the whole array.

In rocket mode, the aerospike uses Rutherford engine based pump-sets to deliver up to 1.25 kg/sec of RP-1 and 3.20 kg/sec of LOX to each aerospike element. A collection of 52 pumps, 26 LOX and 26 RPI all operate to deliver 35.26 tonnes at lift off from 26 linear aerospike exhaust nozzles on the tail of each wing!

The Avro Y-1 shaped vehicle masses 450 kg and fully loaded carries 850 kg. It also carries 4,000 kg of propellant. 886 kg of Kero, 2614 kg of LOX for the rocket and 500 kg of kero for the jet.

Each of the six tanks masses 450 kg and carries 4,000 kg of propellant as 2,904.1 kg of LOX and 1,095.9 kg of Kerosene.

Four of the six tanks are drained during initial boost accelerating the vehicle to 2.15 km/sec. These tanks are dropped and the two remaining tanks are drained forming the second stage.

The second stage adds 3.14 km/sec bringing the total to 5.29 km/sec overall.. These two tanks are dropped and the remaining propellant is drawn from the disk vehicle itself.

The last stage attains a total speed of 10.58 km/sec.

Now, 1.28 km/sec is lost due to air drag and gravity losses. Thus, 9.3 km/sec velocity is attained at an altitude of 60 km.

This boosts the vehicle to a highly elliptical orbit that carries it 13,540 km altitude in 43 hours. It takes another 43 hours to fall back to Earth where it slows through aerobraking to subsonic speed. At that point, it re-enters the atmosphere, and the vehicle, its crew, and remaining kerosene, fly back to the launch centre using the high bypass jet engine.

Range = Velocity * (L/D) * Isp * LN(Mi/Mf)

After slowing to subsonic speeds, with the aerospike engine operated as the exhaust of a high bypass turbofan system, that draws air from the aircraft, and when operating at 277 m/sec air speed in the stratosphere, specific impulse of 6000 seconds is achieved. Combining with with a lift/drag of 20 at this speed, the range of the system is 24,837 km flown over an additional 25 hours period. (111 hours total)

Thus, regardless of where the vehicle lands, it is capable of returning to its base following re-entry.

A very special ride for two persons at a cost of $5 million each!

It takes another 48 hours after return of all parts and pieces to the launch centre to relaunch the system.

So, $520 million per year is generated per vehicle.

A fleet of three is being planned.

Removing the Kerosene tank, and equipping the vehicle with additional supplies, reduces the overall weight of the payload and take off weight, permits an increase to 11.72 km/sec - sufficient to project the payload beyond escape velocity!

This is sufficient delta vee to carry out a lunar free return trajectory over an 8 day period while retaining sufficient capacity for course corrections along the way.

This lunar jump vehicle will be made available once a month per vehicle so equipped, at a cost of $21.7 million per passenger, generating the same revenue per vehicle.

Efficient operation of the vehicle allows it to be placed into lunar orbit and returned.

A 600 kg automated drone consisting of 140 kg of inert mass and 129.2 kg of Kerosense and 330.8 kg of LOX will be placed in lunar orbit. This is met with a piloted system described. One of the two pilots transfer to the drone and makes their way down to the Lunar surface and back using this system..

One flight per month, with a crew person and a landing, is possible this requires two launches and serves only one person. 12 persons per year are landed on the moon in this way, and returned to Earth. Each flight costs $86..7 million, plus another $12 million for the vehicle.

The orbiter drone may also be configured to land 450 kg of supplies one way on the moon. This costs $43.3 million transport costs, $12.0 million for the vehicle, and whatever the payload processing costs.

For $200 million two people could arrange to stay on the moon for two weeks.. Which would be quite a honey moon!

A VTOL capable long-distance aerial vehicle based on this airframe will also be offered. This is attained by replacing the 3,500 kg of LOX/Kero propellant with 2,000 kg of Kerosene in addition to the 500 kg of Kerosene already on board and 1,500 kg of cargo. In this way we have a long-distance, VTOL cargo plane shipping things up to 20,000 km point to point anywhere on Earth.








On Friday, August 8, 2014 4:52:08 PM UTC+12, Saul Levy wrote:
ARE YOU OFFERING TO GO FIRST, MOOKIE?



Saul Levy





On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:33:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



Yeah, I mispronounce it when I'm down there, so its no surprise I can't spell it! lol.



People often ask me why I think humanity can do all the things I imagine are possible to do? I received a video the other day which I found quite inspiring. Its a film that shaped my youth. So, I think this is where that undying faith in human ability comes from.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8RszOQwWGY



Kaiser's construction of the Liberty ships and the pocket aircraft carriers in World War 2 rank as one of the most remarkable achievements of humanity. A measure of what can be done when the will the know-how of a people are combined toward useful ends.



We can get out of our present predicament, reducing Earth's population without a single loss of life while at the same time preserving and enriching the biosphere here on Earth and enriching and empowering the life of every human being.



This is the promise of science, and has been the promise of science since the very beginning. Its times we all took this seriously and moved toward a more productive use of our time and talent going forward.

On Friday, August 8, 2014 8:57:10 PM UTC-7, wrote:
I'm involved where that's appropriate Saul.



The nuclear salt water rocket is in process and I can't speak definitively about that yet, however, I can talk about some other interesting developments nearer term.



The New Zealand based company Rocket Lab has been acquired by US investors and is moving toward a 3 stage launcher of high efficiency operating in Auckland using carbon fibre composites.



I will launch a satellite network to give the world wireless broadband services, including digital financial services using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0e2FJmXujA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAqaheHHIlQ



I am speaking with Campbell Aviation about building a Coanda Effect Aircraft similar to the Avro Y-1. Martin Jet Pack is building a small wearable VTOL vehicle which also has skills in this area.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4Lgv1L7VY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZEAZksq38k



Soon, I will announce a VTOL disk craft that has considerable range and be capable of ballistic boost and re-entry.



http://www.google.com/patents/US3062482



It will work independently as a turbojet powered aircraft or with a collection of booster elements to achieve spaceflight.



It makes use of micro-arrays of engines (larger than mems, easily constructed with 3D print techniques) with extremely low structure fraction using advanced composites throughout.



The airframe is similar to the Avro Y-1 airframe and contains LOX/Kero with a surplus of Kero for aerial maneuvering following re-entry.



For orbital operations the airframe is surrounded by six tanks, each feeding the aerospike engine in the tail of the airframe which lifts the whole array.



In rocket mode, the aerospike uses Rutherford engine based pump-sets to deliver up to 1.25 kg/sec of RP-1 and 3.20 kg/sec of LOX to each aerospike element. A collection of 52 pumps, 26 LOX and 26 RPI all operate to deliver 35.26 tonnes at lift off from 26 linear aerospike exhaust nozzles on the tail of each wing!



The Avro Y-1 shaped vehicle masses 450 kg and fully loaded carries 850 kg.. It also carries 4,000 kg of propellant. 886 kg of Kero, 2614 kg of LOX for the rocket and 500 kg of kero for the jet.



Each of the six tanks masses 450 kg and carries 4,000 kg of propellant as 2,904.1 kg of LOX and 1,095.9 kg of Kerosene.



Four of the six tanks are drained during initial boost accelerating the vehicle to 2.15 km/sec. These tanks are dropped and the two remaining tanks are drained forming the second stage.



The second stage adds 3.14 km/sec bringing the total to 5.29 km/sec overall. These two tanks are dropped and the remaining propellant is drawn from the disk vehicle itself.



The last stage attains a total speed of 10.58 km/sec.



Now, 1.28 km/sec is lost due to air drag and gravity losses. Thus, 9.3 km/sec velocity is attained at an altitude of 60 km.



This boosts the vehicle to a highly elliptical orbit that carries it 13,540 km altitude in 43 hours. It takes another 43 hours to fall back to Earth where it slows through aerobraking to subsonic speed. At that point, it re-enters the atmosphere, and the vehicle, its crew, and remaining kerosene, fly back to the launch centre using the high bypass jet engine.



Range = Velocity * (L/D) * Isp * LN(Mi/Mf)



After slowing to subsonic speeds, with the aerospike engine operated as the exhaust of a high bypass turbofan system, that draws air from the aircraft, and when operating at 277 m/sec air speed in the stratosphere, specific impulse of 6000 seconds is achieved. Combining with with a lift/drag of 20 at this speed, the range of the system is 24,837 km flown over an additional 25 hours period. (111 hours total)



Thus, regardless of where the vehicle lands, it is capable of returning to its base following re-entry.



A very special ride for two persons at a cost of $5 million each!



It takes another 48 hours after return of all parts and pieces to the launch centre to relaunch the system.



So, $520 million per year is generated per vehicle.



A fleet of three is being planned.



Removing the Kerosene tank, and equipping the vehicle with additional supplies, reduces the overall weight of the payload and take off weight, permits an increase to 11.72 km/sec - sufficient to project the payload beyond escape velocity!



This is sufficient delta vee to carry out a lunar free return trajectory over an 8 day period while retaining sufficient capacity for course corrections along the way.



This lunar jump vehicle will be made available once a month per vehicle so equipped, at a cost of $21.7 million per passenger, generating the same revenue per vehicle.



Efficient operation of the vehicle allows it to be placed into lunar orbit and returned.



A 600 kg automated drone consisting of 140 kg of inert mass and 129.2 kg of Kerosense and 330.8 kg of LOX will be placed in lunar orbit. This is met with a piloted system described. One of the two pilots transfer to the drone and makes their way down to the Lunar surface and back using this system.



One flight per month, with a crew person and a landing, is possible this requires two launches and serves only one person. 12 persons per year are landed on the moon in this way, and returned to Earth. Each flight costs $86.7 million, plus another $12 million for the vehicle.



The orbiter drone may also be configured to land 450 kg of supplies one way on the moon. This costs $43.3 million transport costs, $12.0 million for the vehicle, and whatever the payload processing costs.



For $200 million two people could arrange to stay on the moon for two weeks. Which would be quite a honey moon!



A VTOL capable long-distance aerial vehicle based on this airframe will also be offered. This is attained by replacing the 3,500 kg of LOX/Kero propellant with 2,000 kg of Kerosene in addition to the 500 kg of Kerosene already on board and 1,500 kg of cargo. In this way we have a long-distance, VTOL cargo plane shipping things up to 20,000 km point to point anywhere on Earth.

















On Friday, August 8, 2014 4:52:08 PM UTC+12, Saul Levy wrote:

ARE YOU OFFERING TO GO FIRST, MOOKIE?







Saul Levy











On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:33:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:







Yeah, I mispronounce it when I'm down there, so its no surprise I can't spell it! lol.



People often ask me why I think humanity can do all the things I imagine are possible to do? I received a video the oth...

Any direct communications with Harlow or rabbi Saul Levy is never going to produce anything positive or constructive, unless you consider being his doofus as some meaningful or pleasurable experience.

I agree that many things are doable, especially when there's a surplus of resources to work with. Unfortunately, our nation and perhaps most others have been run into the toilet by the likes of rabbi Saul Levy regardless of whomever we elect or appoint. Our hard earned loot and millions of humans have already been spent and far too often depleted and/or wasted on behalf of their all-white oligarch, Bilderberg and Rothschild dogma which intends to sustain their status as world dictators and thereby in charge of most everything that matters.

As I've said before; If the upper .0001% caste (roughly 7250 individuals) were to be eliminated, it would only be a good thing because so few if any of them have ever worked an honest day in their pathetic lives, and thereby haven't been essential nor desirable individuals, that is unless you consider the likes of Hitler to have been a good thing. Hitler would have failed as of day-one if he didn't have the likes of Harlow and other Semites like Saul Levy willing to do whatever it takes in order to dominate our planet..

For their all-white NWO to function, it has to have the likes of rabbi Saul Levy and Harlow, and our mainstream media fully moderated so that Usenet/newsgroups and any other social networking or private publishing simply doesn't function or simply doesn't allow those of our kind to independently research or much less publish anything. They already have an internet kill-switch via malware/spyware and remote triggered worms that have been fully tested and ready to cut us off. There may be a few private networks of limited and/or fully restricted internet and intranets left operational, but for the most part our civilian freedom of accessing the WWW is constantly at risk because of individuals like Harlow and rabbi Saul Levy which represent the vast majority of those we're constantly forced to interact with.

Knowledge is power, and you simply have the advantage of way more than your fair share of such knowledge, which makes you a very powerful and equally dangerous person to those cloaked by their wealth, government and religion that are currently in charge and have no intentions of ever stepping down or even aside.

On Saturday, August 9, 2014 9:27:10 PM UTC-7, wrote:
More has been done here with less money and less time than has been done by any of the majors, so I don't have much to apologize for!


As long as you are not directly replying as to anything of Harlow or of rabbi Saul Levy, you are good to go, because it's their job to make themselves look so great and all-knowing, and to otherwise make all others look as bad and worthless as possible.

Do you understand?

First World Problems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwvlbJ0h35A

Word Crimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

Foil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk

Can we move the moon to L1?

Well, we can certainly analyze the requirement.

Velocity requirement:

The moon orbits the Earth at 384,400 km. L1 is 1,500,000 km away. So, a transfer orbit has a 942,200 km semi-major axis. This means that at the right time the moon's velocity must be increased by 0.26 km/sec and 1.92 months after you do that you've got to increase the speed again by 0.18 km/sec when you reach L1. A total delta vee of 0.44 km/sec


Energy requirement:

The moon's mass is 7.3477e22 kg. An object this mass moving at 440 m/sec contains 7.11e27 Joules! This is an under-estimate of the requirement. If we eject material from the moon at 44 km/sec - to create a sort of rocket action - we will need to eject 7.21e20 kg which requires the expenditure of 5.85e29 Joules - which is nearly 100x more energy that is retained on the moon.

Where to get the energy?

The moon's regolith contains 4 ppm lithium-6 and deuterium. Lithium-6 by absorbing a neutron fissions producing a helium nucleus (alpha particle) and a tritium nucleus. The energetic tritium nucleus reacts with the deuterium producing another helium nucleus along with the original neutron - and even more energy.

That means each kg of lunar material can release about a giga joule of energy. Since it takes only 40 megajoules of energy to vaporize a kilogram of rock, into its component parts, this is where we get the energy!

Can we do a project on this scale?

So, with the right fuel we can generate the energy needed. But the moon is a big place! Can we move the moon?

No, humanity cannot do a project on this scale using the techniques and tools it has historically used.

Is there any way we could conceivably move the moon?

Well, others have speculated in the past that self-replicating machine systems could remake worlds. This has appeared from time to time in scientific journals, and from time to time been placed before the public in popular form.

Self replicating probes create a dwarf star from a gas giant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEAbI1x7IMs

Self replicating probes create an ecology on a dead world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXbWCrzWJo4

A one kilogram probe landed on the moon, capable of using lunar rock to power the construction of daughter probes, each 1 kg, and building one copy per hour, would double in mass every hour. It would take

LN(7.3477e22)/LN(2) = 75.96

Around 76 hours to convert the entire moon into self replicating probes.

It would take only 70 hours to cover a hemisphere of the moon to a depth of nearly a kilometre with self replicating robot swarms that cooperate to build an array of fusion powered thrusters that ejected regolith to produce thrust that boosted the moon into a transfer orbit, and changed its spin so that the thruster would face the leading edge as it arrive at L1. The second boost would also allow the face we now see to be oriented toward the sun, and thus be tidally locked to the Sun.

The tides on Earth would become milder, but would not disappear, since the Sun contributes somewhat to the tides on Earth today.

Dropping the moon into the disc of the sun reduces the solar input to Earth.. Placing the moon in a halo orbit that is outside the disc of the sun affects the Earth not at all. Reducing the diameter of the halo orbit so that the sun eclipses only a portion of the solar disc, allows us to engineer the effect of the moon. In fact, a halo orbit that can be adjusted, would be something that would allow humanity to adjust the climate on Earth.

Of course, this is not the only thing we can do with swarms of self replicating robots. Its not even the highest best use of this technology. We can for instance, reshape life on Earth

http://www.scribd.com/doc/77588930/Brand-New-World

http://www.scribd.com/doc/213068266/Super-Cities-3

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106112900/Resources

and promote the development off-world and the exodus of 310 million people from Earth each year by first building 20 lunar bases and then building McKendree cylinders and Bishop Rings from the major asteroids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZn5k8_my_o

http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/nano4/mckendreePaper.html

These seem a much better use of this capability.

However, they're not mutually exclusive! We could move the moon to L1 and then convert the moon into a large array of connected stations.

The asteroid belt is 3e21 kg and the moon is 7e22 kg. While its true the surface has been processed by the sun for billions of year, that may not be true of its centre. However, if a natural reactor has been operating on the moon for billions of years, its centre may also be devoid of lighter materials.

This is not true of the asteroid belt. There is plenty of water and ice out there. Though there is likely plenty of water on the moon given the recent discovery of ice on Mercury. This likely comes about due to hydrogen in the solar wind interacting with oxides in the soil to produce water.

We just don't know enough yet. However, we do have the capacity to find out, and make plans on that basis.

Again, things are not mutually exclusive. We could rebuild the Earth to make it a more pleasant place. Begin taking 310 million of the most talented off world each year first to underground lunar bases dug with nuclear powered subterrene operating on the moon. In this way we reduce human numbers to 500 million in 25 years.

We next process the asteroids in their entirety. Understanding the techniques we'll use later. Building large pressure vessels there.

We then move the moon to a better locale, to Earth-Sol Lagrange Point 1, and then process the moon into habitats that reside on the neutral gravity surface between Earth and Sol.

We also terraform Mars and Venus, and convert Mercury into a vast ring of industrial habitats making use of its 3.3e23 kg of very rich materials in full.

At this point we would be ready to deploy self replicating solar panels on the surface of the sun. Totally encasing Sol, making use of all its energy.. The solar panels convert sunlight to positronium, which is stored on board. The panels also absorb heavy materials from the solar atmosphere, from which solar panels are produced and maintained. Excess positronium and other materials are exported to the Mercurian industrial ring. 4 million tonnes per second of positronium. 6 million tonnes per second of metals.

The back side of the solar panels are equipped with autostereoscopic displays that permit the entire surface of the sun to be used as a phased array emitter to beam energy anywhere desired. This allows us to maintain whatever lighting conditions we like throughout the solar system and control the environments of all worlds. It also allows us to send ships to the stars as well as provide a defensive capability for our star system.

The array may also be used to receive light, a telescope of immense power. It can also be used to implement photonic thruster capability for interplanetary as well as interstellar movement.

In this way, human wealth increases along with human numbers. However, by the operation of Fitzgerald contraction of time at high speeds, the growth in human numbers slows as we expand beyond the Sun. Furthermore, risk scales with distance, and so, our range is strictly limited, and population density falls exponentially with distance - and our ultimate range is determined by our starting population. Starting with 10 billions gives us mastery of the galaxy. Starting with 0.5 billions - means we will never get beyond the solar system.

Moving that 310 million per year from Earth to Moon, from Moon to Asteroids, from Asteroids to the Stars - this is how we proceed. We drop the rate in a controlled way after most people are dispatched to the stars - and we start populating a range of 250 light years, and roll back to 200 light years - during the expansion. The region inside 200 light years is treated differently. The considerations are more involved, but basically, if we want to crate a species that masters the galaxy eventually, how we are structured before going to the next phase of technical development is important.

Given how we've totally buggered our present situation - I don't know if we're really suited to be space faring or galactic in our range. Perhaps we're merely going through a culling process - getting rid of the type of psychopathy that isn't benefiting us.

On Monday, August 11, 2014 11:23:24 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Can we move the moon to L1?



Well, we can certainly analyze the requirement.



Velocity requirement:



The moon orbits the Earth at 384,400 km. L1 is 1,500,000 km away. So, a transfer orbit has a 942,200 km semi-major axis. This means that at the right time the moon's velocity must be increased by 0.26 km/sec and 1.92 months after you do that you've got to increase the speed again by 0.18 km/sec when you reach L1. A total delta vee of 0.44 km/sec





Energy requirement:



The moon's mass is 7.3477e22 kg. An object this mass moving at 440 m/sec contains 7.11e27 Joules! This is an under-estimate of the requirement. If we eject material from the moon at 44 km/sec - to create a sort of rocket action - we will need to eject 7.21e20 kg which requires the expenditure of 5.85e29 Joules - which is nearly 100x more energy that is retained on the moon.



Where to get the energy?



The moon's regolith contains 4 ppm lithium-6 and deuterium. Lithium-6 by absorbing a neutron fissions producing a helium nucleus (alpha particle) and a tritium nucleus. The energetic tritium nucleus reacts with the deuterium producing another helium nucleus along with the original neutron - and even more energy.



That means each kg of lunar material can release about a giga joule of energy. Since it takes only 40 megajoules of energy to vaporize a kilogram of rock, into its component parts, this is where we get the energy!



Can we do a project on this scale?



So, with the right fuel we can generate the energy needed. But the moon is a big place! Can we move the moon?



No, humanity cannot do a project on this scale using the techniques and tools it has historically used.



Is there any way we could conceivably move the moon?



Well, others have speculated in the past that self-replicating machine systems could remake worlds. This has appeared from time to time in scientific journals, and from time to time been placed before the public in popular form.



Self replicating probes create a dwarf star from a gas giant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEAbI1x7IMs



Self replicating probes create an ecology on a dead world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXbWCrzWJo4



A one kilogram probe landed on the moon, capable of using lunar rock to power the construction of daughter probes, each 1 kg, and building one copy per hour, would double in mass every hour. It would take



LN(7.3477e22)/LN(2) = 75.96



Around 76 hours to convert the entire moon into self replicating probes.



It would take only 70 hours to cover a hemisphere of the moon to a depth of nearly a kilometre with self replicating robot swarms that cooperate to build an array of fusion powered thrusters that ejected regolith to produce thrust that boosted the moon into a transfer orbit, and changed its spin so that the thruster would face the leading edge as it arrive at L1. The second boost would also allow the face we now see to be oriented toward the sun, and thus be tidally locked to the Sun.



The tides on Earth would become milder, but would not disappear, since the Sun contributes somewhat to the tides on Earth today.



Dropping the moon into the disc of the sun reduces the solar input to Earth. Placing the moon in a halo orbit that is outside the disc of the sun affects the Earth not at all. Reducing the diameter of the halo orbit so that the sun eclipses only a portion of the solar disc, allows us to engineer the effect of the moon. In fact, a halo orbit that can be adjusted, would be something that would allow humanity to adjust the climate on Earth.



Of course, this is not the only thing we can do with swarms of self replicating robots. Its not even the highest best use of this technology. We can for instance, reshape life on Earth



http://www.scribd.com/doc/77588930/Brand-New-World



http://www.scribd.com/doc/213068266/Super-Cities-3



http://www.scribd.com/doc/106112900/Resources



and promote the development off-world and the exodus of 310 million people from Earth each year by first building 20 lunar bases and then building McKendree cylinders and Bishop Rings from the major asteroids.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZn5k8_my_o



http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/nano4/mckendreePaper.html



These seem a much better use of this capability.



However, they're not mutually exclusive! We could move the moon to L1 and then convert the moon into a large array of connected stations.



The asteroid belt is 3e21 kg and the moon is 7e22 kg. While its true the surface has been processed by the sun for billions of year, that may not be true of its centre. However, if a natural reactor has been operating on the moon for billions of years, its centre may also be devoid of lighter materials.



This is not true of the asteroid belt. There is plenty of water and ice out there. Though there is likely plenty of water on the moon given the recent discovery of ice on Mercury. This likely comes about due to hydrogen in the solar wind interacting with oxides in the soil to produce water.



We just don't know enough yet. However, we do have the capacity to find out, and make plans on that basis.



Again, things are not mutually exclusive. We could rebuild the Earth to make it a more pleasant place. Begin taking 310 million of the most talented off world each year first to underground lunar bases dug with nuclear powered subterrene operating on the moon. In this way we reduce human numbers to 500 million in 25 years.



We next process the asteroids in their entirety. Understanding the techniques we'll use later. Building large pressure vessels there.



We then move the moon to a better locale, to Earth-Sol Lagrange Point 1, and then process the moon into habitats that reside on the neutral gravity surface between Earth and Sol.



We also terraform Mars and Venus, and convert Mercury into a vast ring of industrial habitats making use of its 3.3e23 kg of very rich materials in full.



At this point we would be ready to deploy self replicating solar panels on the surface of the sun. Totally encasing Sol, making use of all its energy. The solar panels convert sunlight to positronium, which is stored on board. The panels also absorb heavy materials from the solar atmosphere, from which solar panels are produced and maintained. Excess positronium and other materials are exported to the Mercurian industrial ring. 4 million tonnes per second of positronium. 6 million tonnes per second of metals.



The back side of the solar panels are equipped with autostereoscopic displays that permit the entire surface of the sun to be used as a phased array emitter to beam energy anywhere desired. This allows us to maintain whatever lighting conditions we like throughout the solar system and control the environments of all worlds. It also allows us to send ships to the stars as well as provide a defensive capability for our star system.



The array may also be used to receive light, a telescope of immense power.. It can also be used to implement ...

Why not simply tow the moon out to Earth L1, utilizing a very long tether as easily made from lunar carbonado, a substantial mass as easily obtained from the moon, and good old centripetal force?

Of course on the tethered mass could be those Mook ion thrusters, as solar powered and tossing those trillions upon trillions upon trillions of ions/sec at .5 c.

You were planning on slowing the orbital velocity of our moon down, were you not?

Isn't slowing the velocity of the moon offering darn a good form/resource of energy?

We can certainly analyze the requirements of moving the moon. This is in fact a smaller task than Archimedes contemplated;



Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.

Archimedes

On Monday, August 11, 2014 5:11:16 PM UTC-7, wrote:
We can certainly analyze the requirements of moving the moon. This is in fact a smaller task than Archimedes contemplated;



Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.

Archimedes

Indeed, the leverage I'm proposing is a variable tethered mass at 2x moon L2, with relatively small number of ion reaction thrusters for maintaining the intended direction of tow, and thus influencing the tethered centripetal force as for leveraging our moon, as well as for slowing it down in order to park it within the halo orbit of Earth L1.

Each and every force (large and small) applied to our moon is accumulative.

A secondary tethered Earth-moon L1 mass would also be employed as for stabilizing the station-keeping of our moon within Earth L1.

99.9% of everything needed for this task would be supplied from lunar resources and via solar energy. The benefits far exceed tenfold, and future generations will greatly appreciate our geoengineering solution as to GW+AGW, reduced plate tectonics of lunar triggered earthquakes, greatly reduced tidal surge issues, a thermally stabilized environment, a surplus of common and rare element resources and especially those of millions of highly paid full-time careers of meaningful and greatly appreciated higher standards of life for the lower 99.9% caste that'll only **** off those oligarchs, Bilderbergs and Rothschilds.

The subsequent Gateway/outpost/oasis and its lunar space elevators with a tethered element reaching to within 7r(44600 km) of Earth is just a beginning.

Eric Holdren said I was insane to believe that 9 billion people could have personal VTOL ballistic vehicles at their homes, consume at the same level multi-millionaires do today, and maintain a clean safe and sound environment and biosphere.

What you think is sane and not sane says a lot about you as a person, your vision and so forth.

Of course, he was not making a medical pronouncement. He was saying that a world of 9 billion people sharing a highly industrial life style was silliness and that the technical means to do that was irrational while any attempt to do that was foolhardy given the serious nature of the difficulties we faced.

For me, his views were equally foolhardy. While he ranted against what he called growthsmanship in many of his writings, I see it as the only way forward.

While extreme views at either end of the spectrum are examples that can be used to marginalize either view, its clear that humanity is characterized by its ability to modify its environment to improve its reproductive success..

As we grow from Type 0 to Type 1 civilization, we will need to take care of the biosphere, rather than have the biosphere take care of us. This is a fundamental shift of consciousness Holdren resists, and I embrace.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 4:46:29 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Eric Holdren said I was insane to believe that 9 billion people could have personal VTOL ballistic vehicles at their homes, consume at the same level multi-millionaires do today, and maintain a clean safe and sound environment and biosphere.



What you think is sane and not sane says a lot about you as a person, your vision and so forth.



Of course, he was not making a medical pronouncement. He was saying that a world of 9 billion people sharing a highly industrial life style was silliness and that the technical means to do that was irrational while any attempt to do that was foolhardy given the serious nature of the difficulties we faced.



For me, his views were equally foolhardy. While he ranted against what he called growthsmanship in many of his writings, I see it as the only way forward.



While extreme views at either end of the spectrum are examples that can be used to marginalize either view, its clear that humanity is characterized by its ability to modify its environment to improve its reproductive success.



As we grow from Type 0 to Type 1 civilization, we will need to take care of the biosphere, rather than have the biosphere take care of us. This is a fundamental shift of consciousness Holdren resists, and I embrace.

That's all way too clean and logical for rabbi Saul Levy and his FUD-master friends.

You'll have to put that into a pop-up talking book format, with lots of X-rated eyecandy, and always worshiping the upper .0001% caste that Harlow and his Nazi rabbi worship.

The only growth that Harlow and his rabbi bed-bunny care about has to do with the size and vitality of their private parts.

Have you ever gotten anything positive/constructive out of either of those kosher pricks?