Brad Guth's Credentials

Brad,

speaking on behalf of all of the deceased, and for my widow, and my
mourning cat...

please shut up.

You have yet to show anything remotely resembling evidence.

I have a bet with a few friends that says you can't respond without:

1.) dragging out your sentences.
2.) using the phrases "nay-saying," "incest cloned," "warlord,"
"oberservationolgy," "third reich," "brown-nosed," or "spookology."
3.) riding off the rails of the subject at hand, and into ad hominem
attacks (to deflect from the fact that your "argument" won't hold water.)

Personally, I think you might become a nice person, given intense
psychiatric counseling, and mood stabilizers.

Bob

Brad Guth wrote:
Here's a touch more of what I'm continually up against, whereas
sometimes it's looking a tad bit better off than other times:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...7f2b7e57a74020
Wow, will you folks take a good hard look-see at what lord William Mook
has to say;

So, yes, there can be all sorts of life in the universe, even on Venus,
even intelligent life. even technical life. I admit that possibility.
But I need to see the evidence from anyone who holds that intelligent
life is there right now. The evidence I've seen doesn't hold up.

But Sir Mook, you're certified as being intellectually as well as
biologically blind, and otherwise 100+% naysay bigoted as to damn near
everything under the sun, especially if wasn't your idea to start with
and more so naysay if it relates as to whatever rocks thy status quo
mindset of your good ship LOLLIPOP.

The last time I'd checked, naysayism wasn't yet one of the accepted
SWAG alternatives.

As to the supposed "evidence I've seen doesn't hold up" is with respect
to the evidence of your having excluded the observationology as
evidence and of otherwise having banished the regular laws of physics
away from not only Venus but that of our moon, simply because it
otherwise tends to support my contensions of their having been other
intelligent life upon Venus, that which could/should still be there.


I agree that life is likely wherever you have a self-replicating system
subject to an evolutionary process. Von Neuman worked out the
mathematical details back in the 40s.

What's more "self-replicating" than a collective of horny ETs that so
happen to be working hard at their task of pillaging and raping Venus
for all she's worth, as for their form of getting it on with one
another seems perfectly capable of "self-replicating", doesn't it?

What's not sufficiently "self-replicating" about extremophiles or those
nifty exoskeletals that I've imagined as getting their fair share of
nooky?

Why does other life need to be limited as to being "subject to an
evolutionary process"?

What's wrong with giving life a helping hand with a little influx of
intelligent design?

I'd thought that we humans have long been well into the process of our
having made all sorts of nifty new forms of life possible, as
intelligently modified in order to suit a given environment or task.


shal; Regardless of my dislike for Brad Guth, this is a bit
anthropocentric to assume that intelligent life should look the
same everywhere. Intelligence is not an elevated, super-developed
condition, but an evolutionary advantage that may happen wherever
life happens.

What's to "dislike" about Brad Guth?
I'am actually a really nice guy that hasn't the least bit of a
brown-nose, nor have I collaborated with the Third Reich, that I know
of. I'm even warm and fuzzy nicer than our resident warlord(GW Bush)
has been to folks having entirely different religious and/or political
views. That last time I'd checked, I haden't gotten arround to
inventing WMD just so that I could nuke the other guy for the taking
and/or global control of his/her oil.

I believe that I've more than honestly interpreted as to offering the
best of my subjective observationology, as to what a few of the
thousands of potential images of what the planet Venus has to offer, as
to there being extremely strong arguments on behalf of my having
identified the makings of what intelligent other life had accomplished,
that which has been right under your extremely naysay brown noses from
the very start.

BTW; I totally agree with the following. So therefore, what's William
Mook's problem?

Rational and interesting discussions of all these topics are welcome.
Unwelcome are insane and uninteresting rants lacking any scientific
evidence or even the possibility of being tested scientifically.

There's certainly nothing that's the least impossible as to having that
primary image scientifically tested to death, such as via NIMA.MIL or
by way of any number of better PhotoShop processing than what I've
accomplished. What's entirely "unwelcome" are of those insanely
brown-nosed fools on the hill insisting that their naysayism is the one
and only last word, and of such all-knowing naysayism accomplishing all
of this topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment without their
once having offered a single image interpretation that supports any
portion of their side of the argument, nor having shared upon a shred
of physics or hard-science that otherwise rules out the possibility of
other intelligent life.

Therefore "shal" is being perfectly correct that whatever's of other
intelligent life need not be as similar to us humans, nor nearly as
dumbfounded and/or as intellectually bigoted as the likes of so many
incest cloned Usenet brown-nosed species of what our humanity seems to
represent, especially of the sorts that intend to summarily suck and
blow at just about everything until them NASA/Apollo cows come home.

If Venusian locals are the cause or at fault, or otherwise if it be
visiting ETs responsible for those massive structures, makes no
difference whatsoever in my good book. If you'd like to focus upon the
Venusian local as per being naturally evolved and still less than
heathen status and thereby simply too dumbfounded to be into whatever's
radio/microwave, then I'll gladly communicate my weird and best SWAG as
thoughts upon a slew of viable notions, as to what could be the case.
Although, for reasons of safety, you may have to first remove that
intellectual naysay mindset of a white cane from between your
butt-cheeks before proceeding.
-

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~
Even Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree that; WAR is WAR, thus "in war
there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident warlord(GW Bush).

Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Thanks Bob (aka Robert Juliano), for all the usual evidence exclusions
and/or avoidance.

Got that translunar 60:1 rocket/payload capability yet?

Got that prototype fly-by-rocket lander yet?

Got that Kodak moment that's not per say xenon lamp illuminated yet?
-

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~
Even Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree that; WAR is WAR, thus "in war
there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident warlord(GW Bush).

Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Brad,

1.) the last bit of your message means that I won that bet (looks like
I'm having thai and italian this week!) Your little problem of asking me
if I have a rocket yet, when we were talking about YOUR proof also wins
me that bet...

2.) I wasn't aware that I was supposed to be building a large lift
vehicle for your approval. If you *DO* want one...

2a.) 500 dollars (cash) will get you a preliminary project estimate
within 2 months.

2b.) I charge a very reasonable (parts and labor cost ) *1.1. The
overall cost will be included in the preliminary estimate. My labor fee
is $60 per hour, in billable fractions of 5 minutes.

2c.) You will have to obtain the needed launch permits, shipping
permits, and letters of approval from your local fire marshal
(notarized!!!) before I begin work on said project.

2d.) the payment plan options are very simple:
2d1.) with an irrevocable letter of credit, from a moody's 4 star or
better...half on project start, half on delivery.
2d2.) if the above is not possible, then a secured bank loan for the
payment allows half and half.
2d3.) if either is not possible, then 20% of total payment upon start of
project, 40% (10% per quarter of project schedule) during project, and
40% upon project delivery.

3.) note bene: at project completion, it is incumbent upon YOU to ship
the rocket to your location. You have to pay for it, insure it, and have
the proper permits. Lacking any of these forfeits the contract, you have
to pay the full amount, and I will hold the rocket for a 3 month grace
period. After that, I may auction it off to the highest bidder.

If these terms are acceptable, you - or your chosen representative - may
meet me at I-CON Science Fiction convention (http://www.iconsf.org/).

I may be found in:
- the gamer's room. (ask at the Mystic Station Design table.)
- the dealer's hall. (collecting buttons, pretties for my wife, etc.)
- the con suite (snarfing food, linking up with friends, and hooking up
with the fabulous con babes.)

Respectfully,

Robert H. Juliano
Delta V partnership

Brad Guth wrote:
Thanks Bob (aka Robert Juliano), for all the usual evidence exclusions
and/or avoidance.

Got that translunar 60:1 rocket/payload capability yet?

Got that prototype fly-by-rocket lander yet?

Got that Kodak moment that's not per say xenon lamp illuminated yet?
-

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~
Even Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree that; WAR is WAR, thus "in war
there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident warlord(GW Bush).

Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Thanks once again Bob (aka Robert Juliano & Delta V partnership), for
all the usual evidence exclusions and/or topic avoidance. I guess no
news is good news is pretty much the same as per the status quo of
getting the usual NASA naysay. I can't say that I'd blame you for
holding back, especially since your job, retirement, loads of nifty
benefits and perhaps even your life and the lives of your family and
closest friends are on the line.

This topic as having been introduced by David Bacque is about my
supposed "credentials", of which I have lots of expertise and nothing
but goodwill to share and otherwise nothing to hide. For starters, I
do exist as a real person, I am not blind nor am I currently
brown-nosed and/or dumbfounded, and perhaps for that reason you have no
intentions of sharing specific numbers of hard-science upon whatever it
is that you and your friends supposedly represent. My "credentials" of
observationology are as much in order as those of Einstein were on
behalf of what he was involved with, as are your's for whatever it is
that you're involved with.

What I indirectly meant by "Got that translunar 60:1 rocket/payload
capability" was also on behalf of my appreciating as to the task of
getting microsatellites efficiently into orbiting the moon. Obviously
the payload would not have to be 1% of the Apollo task. I was
previously thinking of the new and improved LRB(h2o2/c3h4o)
alternatives rather than using those first stage SRBs, and otherwise
for getting that total launch package ratio down to perhaps as slight
as 32:1 by way of using the utmost of composites and SRM disposables
that'll help minimise the inert launch mass, which apparently the
superior hocus-pocus degree of rocket-science of the Saturn-V method
having so much spare thrust and all the necessary spare volumes of fuel
to burn is why it simply didn't have to worry about such matters as
initial launch aerodynamic drag or upon whatever the inert/dry mass.

I obviously had no idea the Saturn-V was so freaking superior to
absolutely anything of the most modern day alternatives. Therefore,
I'm seriously impressed that such a slight ratio while have to pack
along so much inert mass is good to go as is, without our having to R&D
or so much as prototype one damn thing.

As for the "Got that prototype fly-by-rocket lander" portion was my
assuming that since your group of wizards have been insisting with
great authority that we had such totally nailed as of the late 60s,
whereas it worked absolutely perfectly, in whch case that too could be
reutilized in a modern robotic fly-by-rocket lander configuration for
getting all sorts of instruments and various technology (easily twice
if not three times the one-way payload tonnage) as safely deployed onto
our moon without a hitch or hardly having to redesign a damn thing
(don't even require reaction wheels).

As to the "Got that Kodak moment that's not per say xenon lamp
illuminated" isn't actually a modern day problem for the sorts of CCD
imaging having such a good Dynamic Range to start off with, plus having
incorporated a fairly substantial UV cut-off and/or a terrific
multi-coated band-pass optical filter that's designed to eliminate the
bulk of whatever's above 750 nm, that'll extensively moderate the lunar
surface reflected near IR and totally eliminate longer IR wavelengths
and otherwise extensively having eliminated anything that's much below
425 nm. In that way all of those extremely white, blue/white and
near-UV spectrum emitting stars like Sirius will most certainly be
recorded as better off than from Earth as viewed above the nearly coal
dark and nasty lunar horizon, but simply no longer capable of their
overdriving the sensitive CCD pixels. This initial lens filtering
(which could easily be removed if all those brighter stars wanted to be
recorded along with the extremely dark lunar surface) will even become
good for cutting down the tremendous intensity of Venus as quite easily
and unavoidably viewed from that same lunar deck.

Therefore, don't worry none about the camera imaging aspects of such
robotics taking terrific images from their being situated on the
extremely dusty, somewhat salty and otherwise downright dark and nasty
lunar deck. Actually, via earthshine it ott to be absolutely
spectacular and sufficiently illuminated at the same time.

BTW; Don't be surprised if I take you up on some if not all of that
rocketship and customized AI/robotic fly-by-rocket engineering. Thanks
again for all of the contract and task related information.
-
Brad Guth

Brad Guth wrote:


BTW; Don't be surprised if I take you up on some if not all of that
rocketship and customized AI/robotic fly-by-rocket engineering. Thanks
again for all of the contract and task related information.
-
Brad Guth


Brad,

not a problem. If it helps, I'll make a point of leaving contact
information with people in the gaming rooms.

$500 in cash (or certified check) gets the ball rolling.

Robert H. Juliano