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Old August 2nd 03, 06:02 AM
Skorpious
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So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per year
wouldn't be bad.

Any thoughts?...

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Old August 2nd 03, 11:14 AM
Bruce Sterling Woodcock
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"Skorpious" wrote in message
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So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per year
wouldn't be bad.

Any thoughts?...


Well, that's not going to happen, but I've made the point before
when people say "The Golden Days of Apollo will never happen
again; it cost too much." when honestly, in inflation-adjusted
dollars, it was only like 2 times more what we're spending now.
For a mere $15-20B a year or so we could be doing a LOT
more in space, and that's really a modest program as far as the
budget is concerned. All it takes is a President willing to ask
for it when his party controls Congress.

Bruce


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Old August 2nd 03, 01:42 PM
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So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per year
wouldn't be bad.


Bad idea. the shuttle is a money rat hole costing too much to operate.
Well, that's not going to happen, but I've made the point before
when people say "The Golden Days of Apollo will never happen
again; it cost too much." when honestly, in inflation-adjusted
dollars, it was only like 2 times more what we're spending now.
For a mere $15-20B a year or so we could be doing a LOT
more in space, and that's really a modest program as far as the
budget is concerned. All it takes is a President willing to ask
for it when his party controls Congress.

Bruce

Shuttle preogram vosts 4 billion per year.
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Old August 2nd 03, 06:04 PM
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Skorpious wrote:

So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per year
wouldn't be bad.

Any thoughts?...

same theme,
for the cost of a major league sports stadium we could fund a shuttle
mission. for the average salary of one the team of felons we could fund an
unmanned mission to the destination of our choosing. just my 2cents.
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Old August 3rd 03, 03:50 AM
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for the cost of a major league sports stadium we could fund a shuttle
mission. for the average salary of one the team of felons we could fund an
unmanned mission to the destination of our choosing. just my 2cents.


***YES!!!!*****

Let's nationalize the NBA and pro baseball and use the proceeds to colonize in
space!!!!!!
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Old August 3rd 03, 04:37 AM
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In article , Skorpious
wrote:

So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per year
wouldn't be bad.

Any thoughts?...


What's the point? It would still use the same unsafe SRBs, the same
foam-shedding ET, and the same inept fools would be running the show
("I didn't ask for any on-orbit pictures because I couldn't remember
who made the request.")

The shuttle is something that should have never gotten off the drawing
board to begin with.


SB
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Old August 3rd 03, 09:06 AM
Bruce Sterling Woodcock
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"Hallerb" wrote in message
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So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per year
wouldn't be bad.


Bad idea. the shuttle is a money rat hole costing too much to operate.
Well, that's not going to happen, but I've made the point before
when people say "The Golden Days of Apollo will never happen
again; it cost too much." when honestly, in inflation-adjusted
dollars, it was only like 2 times more what we're spending now.
For a mere $15-20B a year or so we could be doing a LOT
more in space, and that's really a modest program as far as the
budget is concerned. All it takes is a President willing to ask
for it when his party controls Congress.

Bruce

Shuttle preogram vosts 4 billion per year.


And NASA costs $15B a year. What's your point? It
takes more than simply a $4B replacement of the Shuttle
to create a new Golden Era.

Bruce


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Old August 6th 03, 01:25 PM
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"FF" wrote in message
m...
How much of NASA's budget is spent on items and programs outside that of

the
shuttle program? I remember reading somewhere that NASA funds a large
portion of the FAA R&D. It was my understanding that NASA's budget funds a
lot of US programs that have little to do with the shuttle or space
exploration per say.


Not entirely sure, but keep in mind what the first A in NASA stands for.

As others have said, direct funding for the Shuttle program is about $4
Billion/year. I think Station is about another $2 Billion (probably a bit
higher).

But, the numbers are on the web.



I could be wrong. JMHO

Walt..


"Bruce Sterling Woodcock" wrote in message
. ..

"Hallerb" wrote in message
...

So for the money we are now spending in Iraq we could build 2 new

space
shuttles every month, or at least 1 per month. Even just 1 per

year
wouldn't be bad.

Shuttle preogram vosts 4 billion per year.

And NASA costs $15B a year. What's your point? It
takes more than simply a $4B replacement of the Shuttle
to create a new Golden Era.

Bruce






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Old August 6th 03, 07:44 PM
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:


"FF" wrote in message
m...
How much of NASA's budget is spent on items and programs outside that of

the
shuttle program? I remember reading somewhere that NASA funds a large
portion of the FAA R&D. It was my understanding that NASA's budget funds a
lot of US programs that have little to do with the shuttle or space
exploration per say.


Not entirely sure, but keep in mind what the first A in NASA stands for.

As others have said, direct funding for the Shuttle program is about $4
Billion/year. I think Station is about another $2 Billion (probably a bit
higher).


The last numbers I saw placed the shuttle nearly a billion dollars lower
than what you give above. The shuttle operations and R&D budget was
reduced over a 10 year period time until it bottomed out around $2.9
billion, and only within the last 4 years or so has gone up about $300-400
million.

The ISS budget is currently capped out at $2 billion, having dropped some
since ISS is slowly transitioning from construction to operations and
support.
-Mike
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Old August 7th 03, 12:05 AM
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Mike Dicenso wrote

The ISS budget is currently capped out at $2 billion, having dropped some
since ISS is slowly transitioning from construction to operations and
support.


What operations?
 




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