Questions for Maxson

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John Maxson wrote:
Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote
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Look, I've said I won't prejudge you. And I apologise for
doing so without listening to your side of the story.

Okay, let's start over. This thread is misnamed. Pappy
hasn't "set the record straight;" he helped set me up. He
and my lead attorney failed to file a False Claims case for
me as promised. They claimed they couldn't get their FOIA
requests (for film) filled by NASA at JSC. They told me to
request it *for* them from KSC. KSC refused. Then they
said they *had* to have an original frame for spectral analysis
of the flame at 59 seconds in order to file. Months later, into
the Bush administration in 1989, they eventually settled for a
"screening" session. In no way did that aid spectral analysis.

Okay, I really can't argue against this. Once it goes legal ...

What would have NASA's motive be in covering this up?

High-level officials at NASA wanted to keep their jobs.

And that in itself, is quite believable. And somewhat to
be expected. Standard engineering procedure, cover your
ass and assign blame.

But why any more blame for a failure other than O-ring failure?

Sure, cover-ups occur, but they must be for a reason ... I expect
we are witnessing one right now, in the White House ... but that's
another story.

It's not altogether another story, believe it or not.

I must confess, I have a feeling there is something going on
in the USA that I can't quite get my head around ... Iraq, War
on Terrorism, new security laws, suspension of rights for
political prisoners in that US base in Cuba, Rumsfield, Republicans,
massive deficits. I see all this oddness, and I don't know what
the bigger picture is.

And as a second question. Why do you keep adding other groups
to the Newsgroups: line?

I don't. Those are the same groups I've always posted to (with the
Mosley title). Don't attack me personally and you won't see that
abuse notice. Feel free to change this title (and groups) if you like.

Okay, I see your sensitivity to the title. Let's just move this to
a different thread.

Nick

Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote
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Once it goes legal ...

It has nothing to do with going legal, and everything to do with
engineering logic. Without original film, Kodak can't do a good
spectral analysis. You said you are an engineer.

Standard engineering procedure, cover your ass and assign blame.

That wasn't the situation. They were ordered to launch and
ordered to cover up the results. At the very top, an Acting
Administrator commanded the wishes of Reagan's 'secret gov.'

But why any more blame for a failure other than O-ring failure?

I had warned the Senate of the root cause, intentional cryo leaks.
The O-ring scam was set up so no one could be blamed, but the
weather was to account for the cold. When no O-ring failed, I had
to be silenced. Otherwise the 'secret gov' would have toppled then,
and *all* the president's men would gone to prison, or worse.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" wrote in message
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I must confess, I have a feeling there is something going on
in the USA that I can't quite get my head around ... Iraq, War
on Terrorism, new security laws, suspension of rights for
political prisoners in that US base in Cuba, Rumsfield, Republicans,
massive deficits. I see all this oddness, and I don't know what
the bigger picture is.

What the heck, it's 3 AM, let's get political.

Bigger pictu Tyrrany built on cowardice, supported by ignorance (you
can't change the world if you don't know dick about it, right? Friggin'
media). Fascism, in about 20 years, thanks to Ashcroft. By then I'll be
living in Finland. :P

Make me dictator-for-life and we become an Aerospace Nation, right after I
make unsolicited advertising a capital offense. All that stuff is gvt-bought
anyhow, we just porked out 80 BILLION DOLLARS (*does Dr. Evil pinkie thing*)
for "fighting terrorism" - Christ, we could have BOUGHT the Afghan-Pakistani
border region where Osama lives for that much. Take that sort of cash and
invest it wisely in space-related stuff, and don't skimp on the engineering
& science education for the kids... Boy that would be cool. I don't know
what the incentives for new markets & resources are though, there aren't any
poor brown people on the moon to make more shoes for us. Asteroid mining?
High-speed suborbital travel for business types? That might not be a big
deal for the Atlantic, but cutting down flights to Japan from 12 hours to 3
would be useful for SOMEBODY, surely. For that matter, imagine delivering
express cargo at Mach 7. That's a really wild what-if, I think... How about
the hypersonic equivalent of a 747 freighter? Is that even possible?

Just rambling... Maybe I can inject some value into a "Dear JTM, why are you
nuts?" thread.

Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote
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But what would have been the motive to destroy a shuttle.

As usual, money was the biggest motive, and next ideology.

How old were you when it happened? Were you an engineer
then? You must understand that the two political parties were
at odds over how the manned and unmanned space money
should be spent, as they are now.

Seems a little drastic to me.

That doesn't stop the venal and greedy, especially when they
can't get what they want done through legal procedures.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

(Nicholas Fitzpatrick) wrote:

I must confess, I have a feeling there is something going on
in the USA that I can't quite get my head around ... Iraq, War
on Terrorism, new security laws, suspension of rights for
political prisoners in that US base in Cuba, Rumsfield, Republicans,
massive deficits. I see all this oddness, and I don't know what
the bigger picture is.

It's called 911.


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In article ,
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
(Nicholas Fitzpatrick) wrote:

I must confess, I have a feeling there is something going on
in the USA that I can't quite get my head around ... Iraq, War
on Terrorism, new security laws, suspension of rights for
political prisoners in that US base in Cuba, Rumsfield, Republicans,
massive deficits. I see all this oddness, and I don't know what
the bigger picture is.

It's called 911.

Oh, I think that is just a pretext. Even the White House has stopped
linking the former Iraqi regime with the fundamentalist terrorists. And
the massive deficits had started before; and certainly have been aided
by strangely-timed tax cuts.

Nick

(Nicholas Fitzpatrick) wrote:

Scott M. Kozel wrote:

I must confess, I have a feeling there is something going on
in the USA that I can't quite get my head around ... Iraq, War
on Terrorism, new security laws, suspension of rights for
political prisoners in that US base in Cuba, Rumsfield, Republicans,
massive deficits. I see all this oddness, and I don't know what
the bigger picture is.

It's called 911.

Oh, I think that is just a pretext. Even the White House has stopped
linking the former Iraqi regime with the fundamentalist terrorists.

No, they have not. The war on terrorism continues.

And
the massive deficits had started before; and certainly have been aided
by strangely-timed tax cuts.

The deficit is minimal compared to the total federal budget.


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Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote
in message ...

I appreciate the discussion. I had no idea that this debate
was any deeper than the cause of the accident itself. However,
I remain unconvinced. I wouldn't put much oddness past the
current regime, but ...

I had no idea we were engaged in a debate. I like discussion,
and I was trying to answer your direct question as to motive.
Surely you haven't forgotten introducing that topic!

Let me recommend one of my favorite books for preparatory
reading. It is 'To Set the Record Straight,' by John J. Sirica.
You should be able to find it in the library, or for a couple of
bucks at a garage sale or in a used book store.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

"Scott M. Kozel

The deficit is minimal compared to the total federal budget.

The deficit looks to be about 20% of the budget. $450B deficit vs
$2200B fed budget. Borrowing one dollar in five is close to as bad as
it gets, since Reagan's administration borrowed one dollar in four in
the high-deficit years.

(Kent Betts) wrote:

"Scott M. Kozel wrote:

The deficit is minimal compared to the total federal budget.

The deficit looks to be about 20% of the budget. $450B deficit vs
$2200B fed budget. Borrowing one dollar in five is close to as bad as
it gets, since Reagan's administration borrowed one dollar in four in
the high-deficit years.

So? Annual federal debt service payment is about 5% of the budget (and
has been since the 1970s), which is well manageable.


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