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Is it true that when a body's position is expressed as longitude and
latitude in the invariable plane system, and then recalculated for a different epoch (assuming no proper motion), the latitude remains unchanged? There's some intuitive sense in the idea, but it seems to me that the conversion from standard (J2000 or apparent) ecliptic coordinates to invariable-plane coordinates would have to be a little more complex than what I have seen in textbooks - or else the inclination of the inv.p. wrt the ecliptic is more complex. Is there a place online where this is discussed? I have seen tantalizing references, but no link to a substantive discussion. |
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Axel Harvey wrote:
Is it true that when a body's position is expressed as longitude and latitude in the invariable plane system, and then recalculated for a different epoch (assuming no proper motion), the latitude remains unchanged? There's some intuitive sense in the idea, but it seems to me that the conversion from standard (J2000 or apparent) ecliptic coordinates to invariable-plane coordinates would have to be a little more complex than what I have seen in textbooks - or else the inclination of the inv.p. wrt the ecliptic is more complex. Is there a place online where this is discussed? I have seen tantalizing references, but no link to a substantive discussion. I take it that you're measuring longitude in the "invariable plane system" from the ascending node of the invariable plane on the Earth's mean equator of date? This would be akin to the vernal equinox, but with the I.P. replacing the ecliptic. If so, then YES -- in the absence of proper motion, a star's latitude in the I.P. system would stay constant. The inclination of the I.P. wrt the ecliptic (or vice versa! depending on how you approach the problem) is indeed rather complicated. The ecliptic changes its orientation due to perturbations from the other planets, most notably Venus and Jupiter. The north ecliptic pole traces out a sequence of loops which as an ensemble do seem to be centered on the I.P. pole (the angular momentum vector of the solar system), but any one loop is not so centered. These are long-period effects, and the standard third-degree polynomials for precession do not capture them. Precession using the invariable plane happens to have been the subject of my Ph.D. dissertation. My advisor, Heinz Eichhorn, came up with the idea and thought it was wonderful, and left it to me to work out the details. I did manage to publish a 4-page article in the proceedings of IAU Colloquium 127, but to the best of my knowledge nothing ever came of it. A pity in some ways, as the formulations are somewhat easier computationally with one plane being held constant. -- Bill Owen, |
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