Venus rotation

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

In this era when it is possible to using planetary comparisons in many
ways,the link between maximum equatorial speed ,spherical deviation
and geological consequences being just one of them and not a single
intelligent person here who can affirm with me that the Earth rotates
15 degrees/1669.5 km per hour.

Of course we also live in an era when this race decides that it can do
what King Canute knew nobody could - control the link between the
astronomical cycles and terrestrial effects,in our case,the shocking
belief that people,by some act,can control global temperatures within
a certain range,that is not just wrong but at the brink of insanity.

The way out of this mess is not to contend with insanity but to
demonstrate productive areas which emerge from a clean and clear view
of the link between planetary dynamics and their terrestrial effects,a
good start is to affirm that the Earth's equator covers a distance of
1669.8 km per hour in spite of the 'sidereal time' proponents who
cannot accept this.

On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:
The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.


A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
of angular velocity. Or State the 360° rotation in earth days.

For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 × 10^-4 rad/s.
For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

For Venus, it is 2.99244922 × 10^-7 rad/s
For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days.

For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s.
For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s
For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial
geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus
would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic
formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth.
This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle
convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic
effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth
is concerned.
There ya go Sammy.
Ken

On 1/2/10 2:00 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam wrote:
On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days.

For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s.
For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s
For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial
geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus
would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic
formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth.
This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle
convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic
effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth
is concerned.
There ya go Sammy.
Ken

If you were right, Ken, would you not expect to see some
correlation of plate velocity with patterns of the sun and
moon?

On Jan 2, 7:38*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region *rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

* *A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
* *of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days.


Unless you really want to play games at a time when the horrific
situation has arisen insofar as our race now believes it can control
global temperature within a certain range (remember the lesson of the
Danish King Canute) for behind it all or at its core is this
intransigence which refuses to acknowledge that 15 degrees at the
Equator represents 1669.8 km and the rotation of the Earth through 15
degrees represents 1669.8 km per hour just as the slow 6.5 km per hour
rotation rate of Venus, a planet of similar size to the Earth, takes
243 days to rotate 360 degrees whereas the Earth takes just 24 hours
to rotate through its 40,075 km circumference.Turn a globe 15 degrees/
1669.8 km and you will eventually develop a distinct antipathy towards
'sidereal time' reasoning.


* *For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s.
* *For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

* *For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s
* *For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

With the information of different latitudinal speeds I go on to
explain why twilight periods vary with latitude and the outlines of
planetary dynamics as the rotation of the viscous
interior,specifically the molten material in contact with the
crust,does not rotate as a single unit but in differential rotation
bands.

None of you stand a chance of explaining crustal evolution and motion
off the entire length of the Mid Atlantic Ridge with 'convection
cells' when differential rotation leaves its signature on the surface
crust in terms of orientation,fracture zones and symmetrical
generation of crust due to the lag/advance mechanism indicative of
rotational shear bands.

Venus does not have a spherical deviation worth considering or
tectonic activity while the Earth has both and much of this is
directly related to planetary rotation and maximum equatorial
speed,the great shame is not that differential rotation in the Earth's
interior is not accepted as a mechanism but even the possibility of
discussing the intimate link between the rotational dynamics of the
interior with surface crustal dynamics is out of bounds because people
refuse to accept the basic fact that the Earth rotates through 1669.8
km per hour at the equator,something that can be validated immediately
using a normal world globe -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GEO_Globe.jpg

Now that the advantage of anonymous consensus has disappeared due to
the recent fraud involving climate,actual climate and geological
studies can commence for those who actually like these topics,the
difference is that now a closer bond is drawn between planetary
dynamics,planetary comparisons and what have you in expressing their
terrestrial effects.The correlation between planetary shape,rotational
speeds and geological effects is of course in its infancy just as
global climate is now only emerging in its true form from behind the
spectacle of a minor atmospheric gas,it only takes a bit of effort to
move from one side to the other and drop these unintelligent games
that you know I have no interest in.

On Jan 2, 8:00*pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region *rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

* *A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
* *of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days.

* *For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s..
* *For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

* *For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s
* *For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial
geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus
would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic
formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth.
This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle
convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic
effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth
is concerned.
There ya go Sammy.
Ken

Mr genius iq,turn a globe through 15 degrees and the distance traveled
at the equator is 1669.8 km,at 60 degrees latitude the value is 836 km
per hour/15 degrees so that all know we are on a rotating sphere with
definite dimensions and rotational speeds.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GEO_Globe.jpg

So,for all the hoopla you turn out to be worse than a flat Earther but
astronomy will do that to you if you do not respect its geometric
language.Maybe somebody else here will explain to you what Isaac was
really doing with absolute/relative space and time in terms of
observations/modelling based on an Ra/Dec framework,they will be the
first generation in centuries to actually be capable of geometrically
distinguishing what is correct and what is not instead of linguistic
dithering which Newton employed to obfuscate his untutored attempt to
hijack astronomy.

On 1/2/10 2:25 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:38 pm, Sam wrote:
On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days.


Any first year student of physics learns to measure rotation in
terms of rotational velocity.


Unless you really want to play games at a time when the horrific
situation has arisen insofar as our race now believes it can control
global temperature within a certain range (remember the lesson of the
Danish King Canute) for behind it all or at its core is this
intransigence which refuses to acknowledge that 15 degrees at the
Equator represents 1669.8 km and the rotation of the Earth through 15
degrees represents 1669.8 km per hour just as the slow 6.5 km per hour
rotation rate of Venus, a planet of similar size to the Earth, takes
243 days to rotate 360 degrees whereas the Earth takes just 24 hours
to rotate through its 40,075 km circumference.Turn a globe 15 degrees/
1669.8 km and you will eventually develop a distinct antipathy towards
'sidereal time' reasoning.


For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s.
For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s
For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

With the information of different latitudinal speeds I go on to
explain why twilight periods vary with latitude and the outlines of
planetary dynamics as the rotation of the viscous
interior,specifically the molten material in contact with the
crust,does not rotate as a single unit but in differential rotation
bands.

None of you stand a chance of explaining crustal evolution and motion
off the entire length of the Mid Atlantic Ridge with 'convection
cells' when differential rotation leaves its signature on the surface
crust in terms of orientation,fracture zones and symmetrical
generation of crust due to the lag/advance mechanism indicative of
rotational shear bands.

Venus does not have a spherical deviation worth considering or
tectonic activity while the Earth has both and much of this is
directly related to planetary rotation and maximum equatorial
speed,the great shame is not that differential rotation in the Earth's
interior is not accepted as a mechanism but even the possibility of
discussing the intimate link between the rotational dynamics of the
interior with surface crustal dynamics is out of bounds because people
refuse to accept the basic fact that the Earth rotates through 1669.8
km per hour at the equator,something that can be validated immediately
using a normal world globe -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../GEO_Globe.jpg

The tilt of that globe in direct sunlight can explain the
observed seasons once you realize that orientation of the tilt
with respect to the sun changes through one complete cycle every
265.25 days or so.


Now that the advantage of anonymous consensus has disappeared due to
the recent fraud involving climate,actual climate and geological
studies can commence for those who actually like these topics,the
difference is that now a closer bond is drawn between planetary
dynamics,planetary comparisons and what have you in expressing their
terrestrial effects.The correlation between planetary shape,rotational
speeds and geological effects is of course in its infancy just as
global climate is now only emerging in its true form from behind the
spectacle of a minor atmospheric gas,it only takes a bit of effort to
move from one side to the other and drop these unintelligent games
that you know I have no interest in.

On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:00:05 -0800 (PST), "Ken S. Tucker"
wrote:

That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial
geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus
would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic
formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth.
This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle
convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic
effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth
is concerned.

Well, I think that theory has been solidly demonstrated false, based on
basic energy calculations. Plate tectonics on Earth are largely believed
to be driven in large part by the presence of oceanic crust, which
doesn't exist on Venus. There is evidence that the crust of Venus has
been recently reformed, however, and that could significantly reduce the
amount of heat that can escape from the mantle. Without much heat loss,
you lose convection. This happens when you have radioactive heating in
the core, so the lack of convection really tells us nothing about the
source of internal heating.
_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

On Jan 2, 12:42*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

* *The tilt of that globe in direct sunlight can explain the
* *observed seasons once you realize that orientation of the tilt
* *with respect to the sun changes through one complete cycle every
* *265.25 days or so.

Small typo there, should be 365.25...

\Paul

On Jan 2, 12:17 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 2:00 PM, Ken S. Tucker wrote:



On Jan 2, 11:38 am, Sam wrote:
On 1/2/10 12:04 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The equatorial region of Venus rotates at 6.5 km per hour while the
Earth's equatorial region rotates 1669.8 km per hour and a full
40,075 km rotation in 24 hours.

A much more meaningful way to relate rotations, is in terms
of angular velocity. Or State the 360 rotation in earth days.

For the Earth, the angular velocity is 0.72921158553 10^-4 rad/s.
For the Earth, one rotation takes 0.997269566 days

For Venus, it is 2.99244922 10^-7 rad/s
For Venus, one rotation takes 243.0185 days

That's important (IMO) from the standpoint of extra-terrestrial
geologics (I should be corrected on that term) since Venus
would have very slight solar tidal input and has no tectonic
formations, unlike it's it's sister planet Earth.
This causes me to doubt the radioactive theory of mantle
convection within the Earth, and instead place the tectonic
effects on the tidal input of the moon and Sun, where Earth
is concerned.
There ya go Sammy.
Ken

If you were right, Ken, would you not expect to see some
correlation of plate velocity with patterns of the sun and
moon?

Hey there Sammy old boy, how ya doing, you like refs, so heres one,
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1223133347.htm

"They found the strongest effect when the pull on the Earth from the
sun
and moon sheared the fault in the direction it normally breaks".

Of course there is much more...the Andes.
Best regards
Ken