Raw images (Was: ESA make NASA look user friendly)

[ope011@yahoo.com]

Neil Halelamien wrote:
> Jeffrey Bell wrote a good op-ed on this over at spacedaily:
> http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-05g.html
>
> I agree with the sentiment. ESA does some incredible science, but
they
> really need to shape up when it comes to communicating with the
public.

There is link in the above link to a site with raw images. Woo-hoo!!!!
Yes, ESA blew it big time by not having this on _their_ website.

[ope011@yahoo.com]

The images are spectacular, like hitching a ride down with Huygens.

[Neil Halelamien]

For raw images in a more downloadable form (if anyone wants to do any
image processing or animations), check here:
http://spacescience.ca/titan/raw/

[Jochem Huhmann]

"Neil Halelamien" > writes:

> For raw images in a more downloadable form (if anyone wants to do any
> image processing or animations), check here:
> http://spacescience.ca/titan/raw/

Quite a few mosaics and processed images are here:

http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Main/Huygens

Examples:

http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/titan_panorama_colored.jpg
http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/bigmosaic.jpg

Jochem

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[Christopher M. Jones]

Jochem Huhmann wrote:
> Quite a few mosaics and processed images are here:
>
> http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Main/Huygens
>
> Examples:
>
> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/titan_panorama_colored.jpg
> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/bigmosaic.jpg

Holy crap those are impressive! They just keep pumping out
good work.

There's this too:
http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg

[OM]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:04:36 -0600, "Christopher M. Jones"
> wrote:

>Jochem Huhmann wrote:
>> Quite a few mosaics and processed images are here:
>>
>> http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Main/Huygens
>>
>> Examples:
>>
>> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/titan_panorama_colored.jpg
>> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/bigmosaic.jpg
>
>Holy crap those are impressive! They just keep pumping out
>good work.
>
>There's this too:
>http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg

....Does anyone have an e-mail address for Anthony? I'd like to drop
him a formal line of thanks for his efforts and of those who've
contributed the processing. They've done an OUTSTANDING job - far
better than those dip****s at ESA have demonstrated - and deserve
serious credit for it. If anyone decides to update Wikipedia's Titan
page(*), these are the images that should be used and credit given
for, not ESA's tardy half-assed crap.

(*) Cue Rusty :-)
OM

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[solisticdred@yahoo.com]

Great stuff. The surface GIF is quite interesting "artifacts" and all.
If I was a connect the widely seperated dots kinda guy, I would say it
looks a bit of breeze or condensate of some sort is in action moving
thru there, mind you "artifacts" and all. You know I haven't been able
to confirm that the current on-surface recording has been reprocessed
since I heard on day 2 . Originally they said when processed it would
be almost total silence. As it is now it sounds almost like wind and
rain in the background, thats if I was connect the widely seperated
dots kinda guy mind you. I'm sure I'm having gestalt problems here

[Archibald]

Damn, that was good!


Jochem Huhmann wrote:
> "Neil Halelamien" > writes:
>
>
>>For raw images in a more downloadable form (if anyone wants to do any
>>image processing or animations), check here:
>>http://spacescience.ca/titan/raw/
>
>
> Quite a few mosaics and processed images are here:
>
> http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Main/Huygens
>
> Examples:
>
> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/titan_panorama_colored.jpg
> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/bigmosaic.jpg
>
> Jochem
>

[Mike Chan]

Jochem Huhmann wrote:
> "Neil Halelamien" > writes:
>
> > For raw images in a more downloadable form (if anyone wants to do
any
> > image processing or animations), check here:
> > http://spacescience.ca/titan/raw/
>
> Quite a few mosaics and processed images are here:
>
> http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Main/Huygens
>
> Examples:
>
> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/titan_panorama_colored.jpg
> http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/bigmosaic.jpg
Thanks for posting the links. Kudos to Mr. Anthony Liekens!!!

[Eric Chomko]

Christopher M. Jones ) wrote:
: Jochem Huhmann wrote:
: > Quite a few mosaics and processed images are here:
: >
: > http://anthony.liekens.net/index.php/Main/Huygens
: >
: > Examples:
: >
: > http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/titan_panorama_colored.jpg
: > http://anthony.liekens.net/images/titan/bigmosaic.jpg

: Holy crap those are impressive! They just keep pumping out
: good work.

: There's this too:
: http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg

It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".

Eric

[MasterShrink]

Eric Chomko wrote:
>http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg
>
>It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
>sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".
>

Does that mean the psychedelic light show that Huygens encountered during the
descent was among the images that failed to transmit?

I for one would be greatful if that was the case...

-A.L.

[Eric Chomko]

MasterShrink ) wrote:
: Eric Chomko wrote:
: >http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg
: >
: >It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
: >sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".
: >

: Does that mean the psychedelic light show that Huygens encountered during the
: descent was among the images that failed to transmit?

: I for one would be greatful if that was the case...

What do you have against the light show?

: -A.L.

[Pat Flannery]

Eric Chomko wrote:

>It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
>sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".
>
>

And in the book, Discovery went to _Saturn_....cue Twilight Zone music....

Pat

[anthony.liekens@gmail.com]

Thanks for your support.

Anthony

[OM]

On 18 Jan 2005 17:47:03 -0800, wrote:

>Thanks for your support.

....Might I suggest you add an e-mail link to your site, so you can be
contacted a bit easier?

OM

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[MasterShrink]

Eric Chomko wrote:
>MasterShrink ) wrote:
>: Eric Chomko wrote:
>: >http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg
>: >
>: >It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
>: >sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".
>: >
>
>: Does that mean the psychedelic light show that Huygens encountered during
>the
>: descent was among the images that failed to transmit?
>
>: I for one would be greatful if that was the case...
>
>What do you have against the light show?

When I first saw the movie I found it a shade to trippy for my taste. 2001 is
one of those films I sometimes watch and love, and other times get picky about.
I'm the same with the film version of the Right Stuff.

-A.L.

[OM]

On 19 Jan 2005 03:52:44 GMT, (MasterShrink)
wrote:

>When I first saw the movie I found it a shade to trippy for my taste.

....The fun part about "2001" was that I lived just a block away from
the Cinerama house where it was playing. For the 11 weeks it was
playing, I saw it 15 times, 13 by myself because Mom couldn't stand
sitting through three hours of that mess. The important significance
of this was that the parents realized that I was actually far more
mature for my age, and could take care of myself while my peers had to
have their parents hold their hands.

Which probably explained why most of my teachers were viewed as utter
putzes, but that's another story altogether...

> 2001 is one of those films I sometimes watch and love, and other times get picky about.

....There are a few nit-picks that stand out about that film:

1) Moon-Watcher and his tribe should have had more problems with lice
and flies.

2) Kubrick should *never* have removed the documentary interviews. Or,
at least, kept them and the other cut footage for later inclusion
after his death on the DVD.

3) There is no 3).

>I'm the same with the film version of the Right Stuff.

....Remember, the film is nothing more than celebrating the myths
behind the Mercury Program as they were written in Wolfe's book.
You've got myths distilled from other myths, and with only 2 hours to
decant there's a LOT of stuff left out. It's one of the reasons I wish
Tom Hanks would do another miniseries using Wolfe's book as a basis.
One that would give each of the Original 7 the proper amount of
dedication to. In fact, IIRC I proposed here a framework for a
12-episode miniseries for HBO or whoever had the common sense to fund
it, and it went something like this:

Episode 1: Yeager's Flight and the story behind the resulting
Ziggurat.

Episode 2: Sputnik, the panic, Eisenhower's failure to understand what
really needed to be done, and the decisions leading to NASA. Don't
forget Vanguard and Explorer 1, and the call for volunteers.

Episode 3: The Lovelace Clinic, the selections, basic intros to the
Original 7, and the chimps. All during more Sputniks,

Episode 4: Vostok, the second panic, Shepard.

Episode 5: Gus Grissom gets his due, where we're shown the hatch
blowing was a malfunction, and not his fault in any way, shape or
form. We're also introduced to his family - his wife, Betty, and his
one son, Mark.

Episode 6: Glenn's flight and the ramifications. Nuff said!

Episode 7: Carpenter's flight. We used this as an exploration into the
relationship between Flight and the Astronauts. If Carpenter is to be
exonerated from Kraft's crucification of his performance, this is the
episode to do it in.

Episode 8: Wally's flight, and the beginnings of MODM.

Episode 9: Gordo's flight.

Episode 10: The wrap-up as we lead into Gemini, and we find out how
each of them fared.

Episode 11: Here's where the Ruskies get their due.

Episode 12: This one's odd, but to be honest there's one Astronaut who
got more screen time than any of his peers, and yet most people today
haven't heard of him because of what I like to call "Frito Bandito
Rejection". I speak of Jose Jimenez himself.

OM

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[Revision]

There is a digitally re-mastered DVD of the original roadshow version of
2001 available now. At least now we have a good copy to view. I was
just thinking the other day how their space food looks sort of unsavory
but they eat it like it was pretty good.

In the book, the last scene is the same as the movie with the space baby
floating next to the Earth, except that in the book, as the infant looks
on, half the Earth turns into a charred cinder. Whoa.

Descent Imager-Spectral Radiometer raw images
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~kholso/

[OM]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:42:18 -0600, "Revision"
> wrote:

>In the book, the last scene is the same as the movie with the space baby
>floating next to the Earth, except that in the book, as the infant looks
>on, half the Earth turns into a charred cinder. Whoa.

....Sir Art has gone on record that this was *not* the case. The Star
Child simply eradicated all the nukes by detonating them high in the
atmosphere as "perhaps he wanted a cleaner sky". And this, I should
add, was made a point of clarification by Sir Art himself *before* he
wrote "2010".

OM

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[Jonathan Silverlight]

In message >, OM
<om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research _facility.org> writes
>On 19 Jan 2005 03:52:44 GMT, (MasterShrink)
>wrote:
>
>>When I first saw the movie I found it a shade to trippy for my taste.
>
>...The fun part about "2001" was that I lived just a block away from
>the Cinerama house where it was playing. For the 11 weeks it was
>playing, I saw it 15 times, 13 by myself because Mom couldn't stand
>sitting through three hours of that mess. The important significance
>of this was that the parents realized that I was actually far more
>mature for my age, and could take care of myself while my peers had to
>have their parents hold their hands.
>
>Which probably explained why most of my teachers were viewed as utter
>putzes, but that's another story altogether...
>
>> 2001 is one of those films I sometimes watch and love, and other
>>times get picky about.
>
>...There are a few nit-picks that stand out about that film:
>
>1) Moon-Watcher and his tribe should have had more problems with lice
>and flies.

The actors were already suffering enough :-) But do modern apes have
problems with lice? I thought they were largely a result of modern
humans' obsession with clothes.

>
>2) Kubrick should *never* have removed the documentary interviews. Or,
>at least, kept them and the other cut footage for later inclusion
>after his death on the DVD.

Absolutely. The "unauthorised cut" (opposite of the "director's cut"
would be worth seeing. Even more than "Battle of Britain" with the
William Walton score.
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In message >, OM
<om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research _facility.org> writes
>On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:42:18 -0600, "Revision"
> wrote:
>
>>In the book, the last scene is the same as the movie with the space baby
>>floating next to the Earth, except that in the book, as the infant looks
>>on, half the Earth turns into a charred cinder. Whoa.
>
>...Sir Art has gone on record that this was *not* the case. The Star
>Child simply eradicated all the nukes by detonating them high in the
>atmosphere as "perhaps he wanted a cleaner sky". And this, I should
>add, was made a point of clarification by Sir Art himself *before* he
>wrote "2010".

It's not that simple. That's how he felt when he wrote "2001" (which is
a hugely optimistic story) but he expresses second thoughts in "The Lost
Worlds of 2001".
'We have wasted and defiled our own estate, the beautiful planet Earth.
Why should we expect any mercy from a returning Star Child...
I do not think we will have to wait for long'.

[Pat Flannery]

wrote:

>Thanks for your support.
>
>

That was a very nice thing to do- you came out looking better than ESA
on this one.
Thanks, those photos were a ball to look at.

Pat

[Eric Chomko]

Pat Flannery ) wrote:


: Eric Chomko wrote:

: >It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
: >sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".
: >
: >

: And in the book, Discovery went to _Saturn_....cue Twilight Zone music....

Saturn space vs. Jupiter space as in the movie.

I have often thought and was gladden by the fact that the Voyagers didn't
not cop out at Jupiter and went onto Saturn, Uranus and Neptune (one craft
for the latter two planets); unlike the difference between the 2001 book
and the 2001 movie versions.

Trivia question: Why did Voyager I get sacfriced at Saturn?

Eric

: Pat

[Eric Chomko]

MasterShrink ) wrote:
: Eric Chomko wrote:
: >MasterShrink ) wrote:
: >: Eric Chomko wrote:
: >: >http://www.lupomesky.cz/Titan_huygens_landing_site_mosaic_big.jpg
: >: >
: >: >It looks like the planet that Dr. Dave Bowman landed on during the last
: >: >sequence in "2001: A Space Odyssey".
: >: >
: >
: >: Does that mean the psychedelic light show that Huygens encountered during
: >the
: >: descent was among the images that failed to transmit?
: >
: >: I for one would be greatful if that was the case...
: >
: >What do you have against the light show?

: When I first saw the movie I found it a shade to trippy for my taste. 2001 is
: one of those films I sometimes watch and love, and other times get picky about.
: I'm the same with the film version of the Right Stuff.

Trippy is the right word. I knew a guy that called it the "LSD sequence".

The "Right Stuff"? Book was great and film was very good, too, IMO?
"Semen sample?! Nurse, can I have some help with this?"

Eric

: -A.L.

[Henry Spencer]

In article >,
Eric Chomko > wrote:
>Trivia question: Why did Voyager I get sacfriced at Saturn?

Because the primary mission of the Voyagers was Jupiter and Saturn -- the
original name of the project was "Mariner Jupiter-Saturn" -- and a close
flyby of Titan was science objective #1 at Saturn, and the trajectory
needed for that was incompatible with going on to another planet.

Voyager 2's extended mission to Uranus and Neptune didn't get final okay
until Voyager 1 successfully did the Titan flyby. Until then, Voyager 2's
most important job was backup for Voyager 1.
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[Christopher M. Jones]

Pat Flannery wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your support.
>
> That was a very nice thing to do- you came out looking better than ESA
> on this one.
> Thanks, those photos were a ball to look at.

They're a top story at Nature magazine's online news
page at the moment:

http://www.nature.com/news/index.html

http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050117/full/050117-7.html

Which I think qualifies officially as "hitting the big
time".

[Harald Kucharek]

Christopher M. Jones schrieb:
> Pat Flannery wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your support.
>>
>>
>> That was a very nice thing to do- you came out looking better than ESA
>> on this one.
>> Thanks, those photos were a ball to look at.
>
>
> They're a top story at Nature magazine's online news
> page at the moment:
>
> http://www.nature.com/news/index.html
>
> http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050117/full/050117-7.html
>
> Which I think qualifies officially as "hitting the big
> time".

There was also a big article about it in the German newsmagazine DER
SPIEGEL:

http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltraum/0,1518,337287,00.html

[Eric Chomko]

Henry Spencer ) wrote:
: In article >,
: Eric Chomko > wrote:
: >Trivia question: Why did Voyager I get sacfriced at Saturn?

: Because the primary mission of the Voyagers was Jupiter and Saturn -- the
: original name of the project was "Mariner Jupiter-Saturn" -- and a close
: flyby of Titan was science objective #1 at Saturn, and the trajectory
: needed for that was incompatible with going on to another planet.

Exactly! To get better science from Titan. I figured in lieu of Huygens it
was an apporopriate question.

: Voyager 2's extended mission to Uranus and Neptune didn't get final okay
: until Voyager 1 successfully did the Titan flyby. Until then, Voyager 2's
: most important job was backup for Voyager 1.

I for one am glad we didn't miss the Uranus and Neptune flybys.

Eric

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