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Mary Shafer
April 22nd 04, 05:06 AM
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:37:07 -0500, "John Whisenhunt"
> wrote:

> I was rewatching the crew recovery aboard USS Ticonderoga, from Spacecraft
> Films' impressive Apollo 17 Collectors Edition. As Jack Schmitt comes up the
> mike to thank the Navy, I noticed his flightsuit nameplate has an unusual
> set of wings. They don't appear to be the current Shuttle-type civilian
> astronaut wings - the three-tailed shooting star swoosh in a simple circle,
> rather they look like they might be the NASA vector logo embossed in gold,
> between the traditional feathers on either side. Gene and Ron, as Navy
> officers, are of course wearing Naval Aviator wings with the added astro
> swoosh.
>
> Schmitt's official bio notes he completed Air Force fixed-wing training, and
> Navy helicocopter training, but obviously never having served in either
> service he wouldn't be authorized to wear military wings. I've dug around
> the Web for historic NASA wings images, but haven't seen any vector logo
> wings that aren't just souveniers. Does anyone have a

That's what the NASA research test pilots wear as a default. They can
wear their service wings, but Life Support makes up name tags with the
winged meatball. The civilian astronauts used to do the same thing.

I looked at the photos of the Dryden pilots in the gallery at
www.dfrc.nasa.gov for these wings and found
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/Pilots/Large/EC95-43228-1.jpg
which shows the six research test pilots in 1995. At least three of
them are wearing the NASA wings.

Mary

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Mary Shafer
April 22nd 04, 05:06 AM
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:42:04 -0500, "John Whisenhunt"
> wrote:

> Sorry for the premature send....
>
> Completed thought should have read: Does anyone have a reference for Apollo
> era civilian astronaut wings?

They're not astronaut wings, they're NASA wings.

Mary

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Pat Flannery
April 22nd 04, 06:27 AM
John Whisenhunt wrote:

> I've dug around
>the Web for historic NASA wings images, but haven't seen any vector logo
>wings that aren't just souveniers. Does anyone have a
>
....at this point the knock on the door occurred, and John Whisenhunt was
informed in no uncertain terms that he would never post...or even
speak...about that particular insignia again.....or at least until the
Lockheed F-19 "Starhawk" nuclear-powered orbital fighter plane was
declassified.

Pat

LooseChanj
April 22nd 04, 09:05 AM
On or about Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:27:16 -0500, Pat Flannery
> made the sensational claim that:
> or at least until the
> Lockheed [REDACTED] was
> declassified.

Now you've gone and done it!
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OM
April 22nd 04, 10:34 AM
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 00:27:16 -0500, Pat Flannery >
wrote:

>or at least until the Lockheed F-19 "Starhawk" nuclear-powered orbital fighter plane was
>declassified.

....Ok, Pat. Where's the link for this one, and what has John Pike had
to whine about it? ;-)

OM

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Pat Flannery
April 22nd 04, 05:53 PM
LooseChanj wrote:

>
>
>>or at least until the
>>Lockheed [REDACTED] was
>>declassified.
>>
>>
>
>Now you've gone and done it!
>
Comrade! Lockheed "Starhawk" is but crude copy of glorious Myasishchev
M-1000 "Kosmoyastreb" Atomo-Space-Flyer, made from plans stolen from the
Motherland by stinking degenerate "Skunk Works" spies- who would be
unable to make _paper_ airplane if Soviet Hero-Designers didn't draw
lines on sheet of paper for them and print "Fold here, foolish
Capitalist!" in big letters next to them with children's crayola!
"Skunk Works" is like skunk itself- smelly rodent thing wandering about
under cover of darkness, black with deceit on bottom, but with white
stripes of surrender down the middle of its back!

Pat

John Whisenhunt
April 23rd 04, 03:16 AM
"Pat Flannery" > wrote in message
...
> ...at this point the knock on the door occurred, and John Whisenhunt was
> informed in no uncertain terms that he would never post...or even
> speak...about that particular insignia again.....or at least until the
> Lockheed F-19 "Starhawk" nuclear-powered orbital fighter plane was
> declassified.

This is a great bit of paranoia humor, except that I really did have dinner
with two Lockheed Martin reps tonight. In fact, the folks in Palmdale are
working on the most unusual... <whoomp..crash> <muffled yelling>

"Uh... I never saw any aircraft, and I definately did not eat this delicious
recently declassified message."

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Mary - thank you - the link was right on target!


JW




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Pat Flannery
April 23rd 04, 09:13 AM
John Whisenhunt wrote:

>This is a great bit of paranoia humor, except that I really did have dinner
>with two Lockheed Martin reps tonight.
>

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