Re: NEWS: Armstrong popular three decades after moon landing

[Hallerb]

>
>
>Radloff's attempt to have Armstrong autograph a copy of the Apollo 11
>mission report ended in disappointment when the former astronaut
>declined all such requests.

Same old Niel, liviung the life of a recluse where he should of been a space
leader or cheerleader.

[Jim Davis]

Bob Haller wrote...

> >Radloff's attempt to have Armstrong autograph a copy of the Apollo 11
> >mission report ended in disappointment when the former astronaut
> >declined all such requests.
>
> Same old Niel, liviung the life of a recluse where he should of been a
space
> leader or cheerleader.

Sure. Only the Bob Hallers of this world are entitled to a make their own
decisions in life. Low lifes like Armstrong should just do as they're told.

Jim Davis

[Hallerb]

>
>Sure. Only the Bob Hallers of this world are entitled to a make their own
>decisions in life. Low lifes like Armstrong should just do as they're told.
>
>Jim Davis

Aggreing to me the first man on the moon meant a responsiblity to the future of
space travel & NASA, rather than dropping out of site and even being unfriendly
to a pad rat at KSC when niel visited one day.

YES! I know e did the PR thing immediately after the landing, but niel; should
of done so much more to encourage space travel, while not making him rich.

[Jim Davis]

Hallerb wrote:

> Aggreing to me the first man on the moon meant a responsiblity
> to the future of space travel & NASA,

Naturally this was all explained to Armstrong beforehand, right?

Jim Davis

[Jonathan Silverlight]

In message >, Hallerb
> writes
>>
>>Sure. Only the Bob Hallers of this world are entitled to a make their own
>>decisions in life. Low lifes like Armstrong should just do as they're told.
>>
>>Jim Davis
>
>Aggreing to me the first man on the moon meant a responsiblity to the future of
>space travel & NASA, rather than dropping out of site and even being unfriendly
>to a pad rat at KSC when niel visited one day.
>
>YES! I know e did the PR thing immediately after the landing, but niel; should
>of done so much more to encourage space travel, while not making him rich.

Shouldn't that be "Neil"? (names usually start with a capital letter,
even if you can't spell) And it's "sight", not "site".
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[Jay Windley]

"Jim Davis" > wrote in message
. 3.44...
|
| Naturally this was all explained to Armstrong beforehand, right?

Actually NASA should have known better. Armstrong's love of privacy was
well known prior to his selection as an astronaut and prior to his
assignment to Apollo 11. Neil Armstrong's critics wrongly assume his
reclusiveness began after his moon mission, and so they put themselves in
the position of trying to argue that Armstrong should meekly satisfy their
armchair notion of what an astronaut is supposed to be.

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[Jim Davis]

Jay Windley wrote:

> Neil Armstrong's critics wrongly assume his
> reclusiveness began after his moon mission, and so they put
> themselves in the position of trying to argue that Armstrong
> should meekly satisfy their armchair notion of what an astronaut
> is supposed to be.

That Congress was prepared to fund anything Armstrong lobbied for is
another questionable assumption from the "Armstrong should have been
a spokesman" crowd.

Jim Davis

[Sam Seiber]

Hallerb wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Radloff's attempt to have Armstrong autograph a copy of the Apollo 11
> >mission report ended in disappointment when the former astronaut
> >declined all such requests.
>
> Same old Niel, liviung the life of a recluse where he should of been a space
> leader or cheerleader.


OK SSH'ers, all of you need to hold me back before I take off the
kid gloves and let hallerb have it. He pulled this **** a few
years ago. It was my *first* sign that hallerb was THE president
of the "his head up his ass" club.

Sam "trying to calm down" Seiber

[Hallerb]

>OK SSH'ers, all of you need to hold me back before I take off the
>kid gloves and let hallerb have it. He pulled this **** a few
>years ago. It was my *first* sign that hallerb was THE president
>of the "his head up his ass" club.
>
>Sam "trying to calm down" Seiber
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hey get as upset as you want... I really dont care!

Niel wasnt the right pewrson for the job once they were back to earth.

Technically he was great! But he ignored his responsiblity to promote landing
on mars.

Basically once he fufilled his obligation he just faded away.....

[LooseChanj]

On or about 4 Aug 2003 22:55:47 GMT, Jim Davis >
made the sensational claim that:
> That Congress was prepared to fund anything Armstrong lobbied for is
> another questionable assumption from the "Armstrong should have been
> a spokesman" crowd.

Is there any other member besides Boob Haller?
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[Scott Hedrick]

"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> Same old Niel, liviung the life of a recluse where he should of been a
space
> leader or cheerleader.

So...you want him to put on a skirt and wave pom-poms?
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[Scott Hedrick]

"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >Sure. Only the Bob Hallers of this world are entitled to a make their own
> >decisions in life. Low lifes like Armstrong should just do as they're
told.
> >
> >Jim Davis
>
> Aggreing to me

Well, maybe he *didn't* "aggre" with you. Perhaps he prefers to deal with
people who have something intelligent to say.

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[Herb Schaltegger]

In article >,
Sam Seiber > wrote:

> Hallerb wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Radloff's attempt to have Armstrong autograph a copy of the Apollo 11
> > >mission report ended in disappointment when the former astronaut
> > >declined all such requests.
> >
> > Same old Niel, liviung the life of a recluse where he should of been a space
> > leader or cheerleader.
>
>
> OK SSH'ers, all of you need to hold me back before I take off the
> kid gloves and let hallerb have it. He pulled this **** a few
> years ago. It was my *first* sign that hallerb was THE president
> of the "his head up his ass" club.
>
> Sam "trying to calm down" Seiber

No, this is just hallerb being hallerb when he SHOULD OF been a better
student of English grammar, spelling, history, economics, and politics.

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[Harald Kucharek]

(Derek Lyons) wrote in message news:<3f2ef1db.11692596@localhost>...
> LooseChanj > wrote:
>
> >On or about 4 Aug 2003 22:55:47 GMT, Jim Davis >
> >made the sensational claim that:
> >> That Congress was prepared to fund anything Armstrong lobbied for is
> >> another questionable assumption from the "Armstrong should have been
> >> a spokesman" crowd.
> >
> >Is there any other member besides Boob Haller?
>
> He's the current spokesman, but there have been others over the years.

And he is so much interested in the subject that he even can't spell
Armstrong's first name correctly.

(Hallerb) wrote in message >...
> Same old Niel, liviung the life of a recluse where he should of been a space
> leader or cheerleader.

(Hallerb) wrote in message >...
> YES! I know e did the PR thing immediately after the landing, but niel; should
> of done so much more to encourage space travel, while not making him rich.

(Hallerb) wrote in message >...
> Niel wasnt the right pewrson for the job once they were back to earth.



And my usual reply to the spokesman subject is: Look what happened
to von Braun.

BTW, here in Europe it is already August 5th and this is

Neil Armstrong's 73th birthday!

Happy Birthday, Neil!

Harald

[MasterShrink]

>Neil Armstrong has made and continues to make many public appearances.
>He has served on blue ribbon panels. I do believe he seems to be a
>regular at Oshkosh lately. I wouldn't say he has not done enough to
>further the cause of space exploration. Besides, Mike Collins and Buzz
>Aldrin have written books and are also active in drumming up
>enthusiasm. Of course John Glenn, the other household name, is very
>visible and accessible. Despite all the cheerleading by these people,
>we still don't have what we want. What makes you think that just the
>presence of Neil Armstrong will change all that?

And for the record, there's a saying..."pity the nation that needs a hero"...we
shouldn't need Neil Armstrong to be a constant cheerleader for the space
program...the people in the program should be strong enough to push forward,
their supporters in government, strong enough to help them...

-A.L.

[Mike Chan]

(Rusty B) wrote in message >...
> Armstrong popular three decades after moon landing
>
> Aug. 02, 2003
> By Steve Wideman
> Post-Crescent staff writer
>
> OSHKOSH ? The man who once stood on the moon and watched the earth dip
> below its horizon longs to see another momentous event in aviation
> history.

"Momentous" is word I wouldn't choose to use if Armstrong had actually
watched the earth dip below the moon's horizon while he stood on its
surface. :(

[Matthew F Funke]

Rusty B > wrote:
>
>OSHKOSH — The man who once stood on the moon and watched the earth dip
>below its horizon longs to see another momentous event in aviation
>history.
>
>Neil Armstrong [...]

He did *what*, now? While standing on a body that exhibits
synchronous roatation and revolution around the Earth?

<sarcasm> I had no idea that libration was so extreme... </sarcasm>
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[Chris Jones]

(Matthew F Funke) writes:

> Rusty B > wrote:
>>
>>OSHKOSH — The man who once stood on the moon and watched the earth dip
>>below its horizon longs to see another momentous event in aviation
>>history.
>>
>>Neil Armstrong [...]
>
> He did *what*, now? While standing on a body that exhibits
> synchronous roatation and revolution around the Earth?

He did stand on the moon, and he did (or certainly was in a position to)
see the earth dip below the moon's horizon. Just not at the same time.
So I would call this a poorly written confusing sentence, not one which
states a falsehood.

[OM]

On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:27:46 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
> wrote:

>> pewrson
>
>What is this?

....Proof that Bob Haller's also contracting the first stages of Fudd's
Syndrome.


OM

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[jeff findley]

(Harald Kucharek) writes:
> And he is so much interested in the subject that he even can't spell
> Armstrong's first name correctly.

Bob can't spell, period.

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[OM]

On 05 Aug 2003 16:41:35 -0400, jeff findley
> wrote:

(Harald Kucharek) writes:
>> And he is so much interested in the subject that he even can't spell
>> Armstrong's first name correctly.
>
>Bob can't spell, period.

....The title of his Tori Amos cover album, natch.


OM

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[Scott Hedrick]

"OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research _facility.org> wrote
in message ...
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:22:11 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
> > wrote:
>
> >So...you want him to put on a skirt and wave pom-poms?
>
> ...And if he does, we'll finally have an excuse to exile him to the
> pervert groups once and for all.

The "him" I was referring to was Hallerb's "Niel".
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[Scott Hedrick]

"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >So...you want him to put on a skirt and wave pom-poms?
> >--
>
> No but he could of worked with congress to champion a Mars mission, been
head
> of a pro space group, or other worthwhile organization working to get us
out of
> LEO.

That wasn't his job or his obligation.

> He essentially did ZIP to forward the space cause.

He was the first person to walk on the moon. He did everything he was
required to do.

> I guess its not is fault, he was the wrong man for the job.

Big words from the copy boy.

When are you going to answer my question?
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[Hallerb]

>
>> No but he could of worked with congress to champion a Mars mission, been
>head
>> of a pro space group, or other worthwhile organization working to get us
>out of
>> LEO.
>
>That wasn't his job or his obligation.
>

This wasnt his JOB it was his DESTINY!

He put manned space back a generation by fading away rather than being a
leader.

Boggest mistake of Apollo was picking hm to be number one. Heck he could of at
minimum lobbied to carry out the final missions, that would of been money well
spent and prevented the saturn stacks from rotting away as lawn rnaments

[Matthew F Funke]

Chris Jones > wrote:
(Matthew F Funke) writes:
>> Rusty B > wrote:
>>>
>>>OSHKOSH — The man who once stood on the moon and watched the earth dip
>>>below its horizon longs to see another momentous event in aviation
>>>history.
>>>
>>>Neil Armstrong [...]
>>
>> He did *what*, now? While standing on a body that exhibits
>> synchronous roatation and revolution around the Earth?
>
>He did stand on the moon, and he did (or certainly was in a position to)
>see the earth dip below the moon's horizon. Just not at the same time.
>So I would call this a poorly written confusing sentence, not one which
>states a falsehood.

...Maybe. ISTM that the reporter didn't know just *how* that would
be possible, though, and may have been "actually correct" more by accident
than anything else. Of course, this is all based on a rather slim piece
of writing.

Nevertheless, if I were to say (assuming that it was within my power
to make it happen), "I'm going to stand on the Moon and watch the Earth
dip below its horizon", I'm pretty sure that a lot of people here would
quickly correct me. How well or poorly I understood the situation would
be apparent from my statement, regardless of whether or not it could be
*technically* true in a LOR scenario.
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[Matthew F Funke]

jeff findley > wrote:
(Harald Kucharek) writes:
>> And he is so much interested in the subject that he even can't spell
>> Armstrong's first name correctly.
>
>Bob can't spell, period.

I think you were supposed to punctuate that differently:
"Bob can't spell '.'" ;)
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[Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)]

"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >> No but he could of worked with congress to champion a Mars mission,
been
> >head
> >> of a pro space group, or other worthwhile organization working to get
us
> >out of
> >> LEO.
> >
> >That wasn't his job or his obligation.
> >
>
> This wasnt his JOB it was his DESTINY!

Wow, from birth he was slated for the Moon walk. Amazing.

No, it was his job. He was a test pilot.

I didn't see him lobbying for X-15 follow-ons.

It might have been nice if he had pulled a Buzz and lobbied. But that was
an entirely personal decision.


>
> He put manned space back a generation by fading away rather than being a
> leader.

No, Vietnam, Nixon, Democracts, Republicans, Americans put things back a
generation.

>
> Boggest mistake of Apollo was picking hm to be number one. Heck he could
of at
> minimum lobbied to carry out the final missions, that would of been money
well
> spent and prevented the saturn stacks from rotting away as lawn rnaments

How come John Glenn didn't do this? He was arguably as famous and WAS in a
position to do something.

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[Sam Seiber]

Scott Hedrick wrote:
>
> "Hallerb" > wrote in message
> > He essentially did ZIP to forward the space cause.
>
> He was the first person to walk on the moon. He did everything he was
> required to do.

I was thinking: If Neil landing on the moon, returning to Earth
alive, with moon rocks didn't spark interest in manned missions
to Mars, then I really doubt cheerleading for years on end would
do the job. Perhaps hallerb thinks you can badger the public
into being interested.

Sam

[Sam Seiber]

Hallerb wrote:
> Technically he was great! But he ignored his responsiblity to promote landing
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> on mars.
>
> Basically once he fufilled his obligation he just faded away.....

I know you have trouble with spelling, but you really blew it
with the word *option*.

Sam

[Scott Hedrick]

"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >> No but he could of worked with congress to champion a Mars mission,
been
> >head
> >> of a pro space group, or other worthwhile organization working to get
us
> >out of
> >> LEO.
> >
> >That wasn't his job or his obligation.
> >
>
> This wasnt his JOB it was his DESTINY!

Please provide verifiable documentation to this effect.

> He put manned space back a generation by fading away rather than being a
> leader.

Horse****. Please provide verifiable evidence that Armstrong alone, outside
of Congress, controlled NASA's budget.

> Boggest mistake of Apollo

The decision was made in Washington, not Houston, so no bogs were involved.
It would have been a mistake to hold meetings in a bog.
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[Hallerb]

>
>> This wasnt his JOB it was his DESTINY!
>
>Please provide verifiable documentation to this effect.
>

Hey I was alive and very interested in space. Everyone thought he would do
great things not slide into obscurity....

I believe he may have changed our direction post apollo. He was not the only
problem but certinally one of them....

[Ami A. Silberman]

Scott Hedrick wrote:
>
> > Boggest mistake of Apollo
>
> The decision was made in Washington, not Houston, so no bogs were involved.
> It would have been a mistake to hold meetings in a bog.

Actually, wasn't Washington built in a swamp too?

[Sam Seiber]

Scott Hedrick wrote:
> Facts not in evidence- to date, hallerb has shown very little capacity for
> thinking.

Or for that matter, *learning*. Some have tried to assist him with
his grammar, but he doesn't seem able to learn. If he has learned
something about grammar, he seems to refuse to use his new found
knowledge.

Sam

[Gordon Davie]

Rusty B wrote:
> Armstrong popular three decades after moon landing
>
> Aug. 02, 2003
> By Steve Wideman
> Post-Crescent staff writer
>
> OSHKOSH - The man who once stood on the moon and watched the earth dip
> below its horizon

What?
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[Scott Hedrick]

"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >> This wasnt his JOB it was his DESTINY!
> >
> >Please provide verifiable documentation to this effect.
> >
>
> Hey I was alive and very interested in space. Everyone thought he would do
> great things not slide into obscurity....

If *everyone* believed it, then you should have plenty of opportunity to
provide verifiable documentation to back up your claim.

> I believe he may have changed our direction post apollo.

Please provide verifiable documentation to this effect. The available record
shows that "Niel" was never in any such position.

He was not the only
> problem but certinally one of them....

And you're five of them.
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[Scott Hedrick]

"Ami A. Silberman" > wrote in message
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> Actually, wasn't Washington built in a swamp too?

The Pentagon was, but the area had been pretty well drained by the time NASA
arrived.
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"Ami A. Silberman" > wrote in message
...
> Scott Hedrick wrote:
> >
> > > Boggest mistake of Apollo
> >
> > The decision was made in Washington, not Houston, so no bogs were
involved.
> > It would have been a mistake to hold meetings in a bog.
>
> Actually, wasn't Washington built in a swamp too?

Basically yeah. It's one reason they historically had such a long summer
recess. It sucked to be in DC that time of the year.