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Scott Hedrick
August 3rd 03, 09:33 PM
"Hallerb" > wrote in message
...
> Its lost oin the moon somehere no doubt in small piecces after impat with
the
> lunar surface.

Why don't you try checking your spelling?

> If there where a way to retrieve bits of it is it legal to e bay them?

If by "e bay them" you mean "store them in bay e of the retrieval vehicle
until we can return them to their current proper owner, the United States
Government", then yes.
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Hallerb
August 3rd 03, 11:33 PM
>
>If by "e bay them" you mean "store them in bay e of the retrieval vehicle
>until we can return them to their current proper owner, the United States
>Government", then yes.

Ahh you cant be that .....

Michael F. Coyle
August 4th 03, 04:46 AM
"Scott Hedrick" > wrote in message
...
> "Hallerb" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Its lost oin the moon somehere no doubt in small piecces after impat
with
> the
> > lunar surface.
>
> Why don't you try checking your spelling?
>
> > If there where a way to retrieve bits of it is it legal to e bay them?
>
> If by "e bay them" you mean "store them in bay e of the retrieval vehicle
> until we can return them to their current proper owner, the United States
> Government", then yes.

The OP, atrocious grammar aside, may have accidentally stumbled on a Valid
Point.

If a spacecraft has been abandoned with no plans to retrieve it, wouldn't
international salvage law apply, just as with a sunken ship?

(And did any ownership/salvage issuses apply to the Liberty Bell 7 case?)

- Michael

Dale
August 4th 03, 06:52 AM
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:58:03 -0400, Kevin Willoughby > wrote:

>> > If there where a way to retrieve bits of it is it legal to e bay them?
>>
>> No.
>
>Actually, yes.
>
>> It remains property of the United States Government.
>
>True. But there is ample president for the US government declaring
>something to be surplus and selling it on the open market.

W.H. Taft was "the ample President", wasn't he? You meant
to say "precedent", I'm sure. Sorry :)

But didn't someone mention here a few weeks back that the
stuff left on the moon is protected by treaty? Or does that only
apply to landing sites, not debris from impacting craft?

Dale

Derek Lyons
August 4th 03, 08:44 AM
"Michael F. Coyle" > wrote:
>The OP, atrocious grammar aside, may have accidentally stumbled on a Valid
>Point.
>
>If a spacecraft has been abandoned with no plans to retrieve it, wouldn't
>international salvage law apply, just as with a sunken ship?

Nobody knows... There's been lots of talks, conferences, papers, and
hot air generated, but theres no ink on paper and no precedents.

>(And did any ownership/salvage issuses apply to the Liberty Bell 7 case?)

Yep. In accordance with salvage law, ownership remained vested with
the US Goverment. Curt had to get their permission to carry out the
salvage.

Keep in mind that, contrary to popular belief, the basis of salvage
law is *not* finders keepers. Ownership usually remains with the
original owners (always remains where the original owner is a
goverment), or if they have been paid by their insurers, with those
insurers.

D.
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Scott Hedrick
August 5th 03, 01:31 AM
"Kevin Willoughby" > wrote in message
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> "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" > said:
> > "Hallerb" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Its lost oin the moon somehere no doubt in small piecces after impat
with
> > > the lunar surface.
> > >
> > > If there where a way to retrieve bits of it is it legal to e bay them?
> >
> > No.
>
> Actually, yes.
>
>
> > It remains property of the United States Government.
>
> True. But there is ample president for the US government

That would be Taft, although Clinton was ample as well.
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