Re: No Evidence Crew Survived -- Till When?

[Lou Van Hille]

what's the link to those pictures please ?

Thanks

Lou


"Moe Blues" > a écrit dans le message de
...
> In article >, "John Maxson"
> > wrote:
>
> > From Jesse Moore's 4:15 pm press briefing on 1/28/86:
> >
> > "I regret that I have to report that based on very
> > preliminary searches of the ocean where the
> > Challenger impacted this morning, these searches
> > have *not* [his emphasis] revealed *any* [my
> > emphasis] evidence that the crew of Challenger
> > survived."
> >
> > Survived until when? Moore did not say! Did anyone ask?
> >
> > Over four and one-half hours had elapsed since the main
> > blast at the time of Moore's delayed press briefing. Surface
> > searches had been conducted by helicopter, plane, and sea.
> >
> > Surely the large floating pieces of forward fuselage had been
> > examined by then. If they had been considered evidence of
> > crew survival until ocean impact, it seems logical that Moore
> > would have (or should have) mentioned that. He did not!
>
> Jesus wept! You really are an idiot, aren't you? Does it occur to you
> that *CONTEXT* of the quoted statement is in reference to finding any
> SURVIVING (as in still alive) shuttle crew? Nitwit!
>
> >
> > The tiles on those floating pieces certainly looked damaged
> > to me (in Av Week's excellent color photos), despite the fact
> > that they were designed to withstand very high heating.
>
> Yeah, I guess having several tons of LOX and liquid hydrogen detonate
> mere feet away, then fall miles to the ocean should result in no damage
> whatever.
>
> And you wonder why nobody ever takes your comments seriously?
>
> Moe
>
> >
> > --
> > John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
> > Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)
>

[John Maxson]

> > > > In article >, "John Maxson"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The tiles on those floating pieces certainly looked damaged
> > > > to me (in Av Week's excellent color photos), despite the fact
> > > > that they were designed to withstand very high heating.

> > > "Moe Blues" > a écrit dans le message
> > > de ...
> > >
> > > Yeah, I guess having several tons of LOX and liquid hydrogen
> > > detonate mere feet away, then fall miles to the ocean should
> > > result in no damage whatever.

> > Lou Van Hille > wrote
> > in message ...
> >
> > what's the link to those pictures please ?

> John Maxson > wrote
> in message ...
>
> There are two. My son Dan has promised to place one
> of them on a web page. (I don't know which one.)

Dan probably intends to show you the internal surface of
the recovered right-forward fuselage. He may not show
you NASA's view of the external surface (even though it
doesn't hold a candle to Av Week's view), so here it is:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/510552.asp?cp1=1

In any event, I imagine Daniel will appreciate the way Jay
Barbree has come so ebulliently to the aid of what I and
many others think about as NASA's illusion.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

[Charleston]

"John Maxson" > wrote in message
...
> > > Lou Van Hille > wrote
> > >
> > > what's the link to those pictures please ?
>
> > John Maxson > wrote
> > in message ...
> >
> > There are two. My son Daniel has promised to place one
> > of them on a web page. (I don't know which one.)
>
> Daniel probably intends to show you the internal surface of
> the recovered right-forward fuselage.

Please don't flatter yourself.

>He may not show
> you NASA's view of the external surface (even though it
> doesn't hold a candle to Av Week's view), so here it is:

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/510552.asp?cp1=1

You will see soon enough.

> In any event, I imagine Daniel will appreciate the way Jay
> Barbree has come so ebulliently to the aid of what I and
> many others think about as NASA's illusion.

Jay Barbree, another conspirator exposed, or just a sort of goofy, yet
conscientious, old KSC reporter?

--

Daniel
Mount Charleston, not Charleston, SC

[Charleston]

"John Maxson" > wrote in message
...
> > > > > In article >, "John Maxson"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The tiles on those floating pieces certainly looked damaged
> > > > > to me (in Av Week's excellent color photos), despite the fact
> > > > > that they were designed to withstand very high heating.

Damaged from a 100g-200g water impact or those blazing hot one pound IUS
guidance thrusters?

> Dan probably intends to show you the internal surface of
> the recovered right-forward fuselage. He may not show
> you NASA's view of the external surface (even though it
> doesn't hold a candle to Av Week's view), so here it is:

Here is a photograph showing portions of Challenger's rudder speed brakes
and body flap. Does anyone see a difference in the appearance of the debris
items?

http://history.nasa.gov/rogersrep/v1p75a.htm

Compare to:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/510552.asp?cp1=1

That will have to do for now.

--

Daniel
Mount Charleston, not Charleston, SC

[OM]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:39:21 -0500, Michael Gardner
> wrote:

>So, are you really saying the Barbree wrote this "to come to the aid of
>what you think". That is what your sentence says. Perhaps he's just
>rehashing old articles and it has nothing to do with you except you find
>it convenient to use. Which is it?

....The fact that Maxson is quoting Barbree should be a prime
indication that he's totally lacking in credibility. As if his other
blatherings weren't sufficient as it were.

Just killfile the molesting sack of ****, please?

OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

[John Maxson]

Your message is defamation and confusion, Mosley. Here's
mine: http://tinyurl.com/h874 .

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


OM <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research _facility.org>
wrote in message ...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:39:21 -0500, Michael Gardner
> > wrote:
>
> >So, are you really saying the Barbree wrote this "to come to the aid of
> >what you think". That is what your sentence says. Perhaps he's just
> >rehashing old articles and it has nothing to do with you except you find
> >it convenient to use. Which is it?
>
> ...The fact that Maxson is quoting Barbree should be a prime
> indication that he's totally lacking in credibility. As if his other
> blatherings weren't sufficient as it were.
>
> Just killfile the molesting sack of ****, please?
>
> OM
>
> --
>
> "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
> his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
> poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society
>
> - General George S. Patton, Jr

[John Maxson]

<http://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=uioe13w164w%40fquest.fidonet.org>

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


OM <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research _facility.org>
wrote in message ...
>
> ...You know, it's bad enough that you had to quote an *entire* post,
> but what adds insult to injury is that you quoted from one of the most
> worthless excuses for corporial life since the Shecklegrubers
> conceived their little boy Adolf.

[OM]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:35:28 GMT, "RAILROAD SPIKE" >
wrote:

>Those ****in astronaughts got damaged too!

<SNIP>

....You know, it's bad enough that you had to quote an *entire* post,
but what adds insult to injury is that you quoted from one of the most
worthless excuses for corporial life since the Shecklegrubers
conceived their little boy Adolf.

Do us all a favor: before you post again, learn how to trim your
quotes.


OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

[Ami A. Silberman]

John Maxson wrote:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=uioe13w164w%40fquest.fidonet.org>
>
> --
> John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
> Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)
>
> OM <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research _facility.org>
> wrote in message ...
> >
> > ...You know, it's bad enough that you had to quote an *entire* post,
> > but what adds insult to injury is that you quoted from one of the most
> > worthless excuses for corporial life since the Shecklegrubers
> > conceived their little boy Adolf.

Schickelgruber. And his dad, Alois, had already changed his name (to
Hittler) before Adolf was born (but after his half-brother Alois had
been.)

See http://www.porges.net/porges/HitlersOrigin.html for details.