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Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like anothergovmint covup to me!



 
 
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Old May 9th 08, 09:12 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like anothergovmint covup to me!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/...recovered_data

On the Net:

NASA write-up of the experiment whose data was recovered:

http://tinyurl.com/44nqgv

the news article tried to downplay the use of the DOS operating system
as the OS for the space shuttle, saying that facilitated writing to
one hard drive. Windows can also write to one drive - just don't
partition it.

what leads me to think it was a governmint coverup is the stating that
a NASA contractor kept the hard drive for 6 months before handing it
over to Kroll Ontrack to 'recover' the data. why did the contractor
hold on to it for so long? yeah, we got us one of dem dar govmint
covups again. but what else would you expect from NASA, and, also,
the evil EWOC (Emperor WithOut Clothes) GWBush!

triba la raza!

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Old May 10th 08, 02:36 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
Jorge R. Frank
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like anothergovmint covup to me!

wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/...recovered_data

On the Net:

NASA write-up of the experiment whose data was recovered:

http://tinyurl.com/44nqgv

the news article tried to downplay the use of the DOS operating system
as the OS for the space shuttle,


DOS was never the OS for the space shuttle. The space shuttle carried
experiments from many different agencies and some of them used DOS. That
does not mean that DOS was the OS for the space shuttle.
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Old May 10th 08, 03:16 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds likeanother govmint covup to me!

discovered the truth:

http://www.ilovebonnie.net/tinfoil-hat.jpg
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Old May 10th 08, 04:47 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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On May 9, 6:36 pm, "Jorge R. Frank" wrote:

DOS was never the OS for the space shuttle.


When MS-DOS was on the table, the choice was made to use 68000 chips
and the OS-9 operating system instead.
But the avionics systems were never based on consumer hardware or
software at all.

The avionics are distributed among hundreds (about 300) separate
specialized control units. These were designed from the ground up
specifically for the Shuttle. These control units are interfaced to
"General Purpose Computers".

At one time, the GPCs were based on a Motorola 68000, but a special
one that was designed for the space program.
That one ran OS-9. It was actually the second generation GPC, in
84.

There have been many, very significant changes in the shuttle since
the mid 80s. (Again, people seem to think because the orbiters have
the same airframes, they are just being flown with the same complement
every mission).
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Old May 10th 08, 06:51 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Now that was FUNNY!!!

jg

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discovered the truth:

http://www.ilovebonnie.net/tinfoil-hat.jpg



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Old May 10th 08, 07:30 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics
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"eyeball" wrote in message
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discovered the truth:

http://www.ilovebonnie.net/tinfoil-hat.jpg


LOL! I never thought I'd see a picture of someone actually wearing a
tinfoil had!


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Old May 10th 08, 09:21 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like another govmint covup to me!

Yeah, people do try to find things that are not really there don't they?
Its often the case with experiments that you do not need complexity. Indeed,
using Dos on a cut down lump of pc hardware gathering data from experiments
is probably far more reliable than most other operating systems.

As for keeping it secret... Pardon, it was know very long time ago that
data recovery was being attempted on a lot of recovered gear. If there is no
rush, then the more data you can get the better.

Have you ever tried to reconstruct a hard drive and read the platters after
such an event? No neither have I and to get anything is quite a triumph I
would say.

Brian

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"Jorge R. Frank" wrote in message
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wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/...recovered_data

On the Net:

NASA write-up of the experiment whose data was recovered:

http://tinyurl.com/44nqgv

the news article tried to downplay the use of the DOS operating system
as the OS for the space shuttle,


DOS was never the OS for the space shuttle. The space shuttle carried
experiments from many different agencies and some of them used DOS. That
does not mean that DOS was the OS for the space shuttle.



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Old May 10th 08, 10:05 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like another govmint covup to me!

Jorge R. Frank stelde dit idée voor :
wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/...recovered_data

On the Net:

NASA write-up of the experiment whose data was recovered:

http://tinyurl.com/44nqgv

the news article tried to downplay the use of the DOS operating system
as the OS for the space shuttle,


DOS was never the OS for the space shuttle. The space shuttle carried
experiments from many different agencies and some of them used DOS. That does
not mean that DOS was the OS for the space shuttle.


The OS for the GPC was (and probably is) AFAIK HALS, High Order
Assenbly Language for Shuttle, this is developed by IBM


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Old May 10th 08, 05:32 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like anothergovmint covup to me!

James Of Tucson wrote:

At one time, the GPCs were based on a Motorola 68000, but a special
one that was designed for the space program.
That one ran OS-9. It was actually the second generation GPC, in
84.


No. The GPCs have always been from the IBM AP-101 family. They started
out as AP-101B and were upgraded to AP-101S starting in 1991. The S has
more memory and has the IOP integrated into the CPU, while the B had
separate CPUs and IOPs.

The AP-101 family never used Motorola microprocessors. The AP-101 is
binary-compatible with the IBM System/360 series.

The OS on the shuttle AP-101 GPCs has never been OS-9. The PASS GPCs run
a custom OS called FCOS. I don't remember what the OS is called on the
BFS GPC but it wasn't OS-9.

See Jenkins, 3rd ed, pp 406-407 for discussion.
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Old May 10th 08, 05:33 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush
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Default Data from Columbia 2/1/03 massacre survived... Sounds like anothergovmint covup to me!

André wrote:
Jorge R. Frank stelde dit idée voor :
wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/...recovered_data

On the Net:

NASA write-up of the experiment whose data was recovered:

http://tinyurl.com/44nqgv

the news article tried to downplay the use of the DOS operating system
as the OS for the space shuttle,


DOS was never the OS for the space shuttle. The space shuttle carried
experiments from many different agencies and some of them used DOS.
That does not mean that DOS was the OS for the space shuttle.


The OS for the GPC was (and probably is) AFAIK HALS, High Order Assenbly
Language for Shuttle, this is developed by IBM


HAL/S was not the OS, FCOS was the OS (at least for the PASS GPCs).
HAL/S was the language in which most of the flight software was written.
HAL/S was developed by Intermetrics; the PASS flight software was
developed by IBM.
 




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