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Planet_X: Our 10th Planet
OhBrother wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:22:45 +0000, Rudolph_X wrote: Volker Hetzer wrote: "Rudolph_X" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha! So, which "persona" is NASA seing then? And when will the world die this time? Greetings! Volker Hi Volker! "The Day After Tomorrow" -http://www.thedayaftertomorrowmovie.com/index.php But, you'll have to go to the movies to see that. Meanwhile, check out the trailer. Rudy, Why? What are you hiding there in your trailer with you? O' Okay, Ms. O', I appologize for calling you an 'Astronomy Geek'. You're probably a real classy lady, and for all I know you might even look good in leather? |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:06:51 -0800, Cosmic_Surfer wrote:
Nope.. evidence please. Repeat after me... "Oh great emissary of the grand Zetan empire... Restore our beloved Cosmic_surfer to his original Pietro form and never let his brain wander from his body again..." O' Tholen@antispam would like to says : What does any of that have to do with astronomy "Oh BOTHER" About as much as sumerian fantasy planets do Pietro. O' Looking forward to your next 'startling morph'! |
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"OhBrother" wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 04:08:18 -0800, Cosmic_Surfer wrote: "Laura" wrote in message ... "Cosmic_Surfer" wrote in message om... "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in message ... In article , Rudolph_X wrote: Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha! "Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th planet..." -BBC -http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph? The question is: If the zetas are not aliens, how did they know ? No, that's not the question. The question is: Did Nancy Lieder know? After all, all she's doing is presenting her own ideas, while crediting them to the imaginary zetans - presumably to lend her words some authority with the particularly gullible. Do you think that Nancy Lieder did all that mess,just to prove to the world that psychic power and aliens do exist ? Nancy wanted to create a cult, get on radio and sell books and video tapes. If you were dumb enough to get sucked in then I guess you were gullible. Maybe. I agreed up to a point that Nancy Lieder is only but a tool. (They use Nancy for their own ends/agendas or whatever it is) It is a very sad thing. The "zetas" are not Nancy Lieder, I would have thought that everyone was aware of these folks. Oh C'mon, read her transcripts, the "Zeta's" said what nancy wanted them to say, right on down to defending her lying butt as her scam fell apart. Are you really so credulous? I still belive that Nancy Lieder is not the "zetas" According to her info, the poles of the earth should have shifted very nearly a full year ago. Of course, she explained it away as disinformation from the zetans themselves. Now she refrains from giving a precise date for when it will occur, but she still says it will. She also states that this planet x is currently between the sun and the earth, and closing with earth. Now, an object has been discovered by *proper* science beyond the orbit of Pluto? How could that possibly be the same planet that Nancy rambles about? It can't. You miss the point here. Planet X does not exist, but the sumerian's 12th planet do exist,the very fact you ignore facts when presented and proven beyond doubt. WTF? The Sumerians 12th planet? Where is this at? If I count Sedna as a planet I still only get 10, are you reading future newspapers the rest of us can't see? The Sumerians used to count the Sun and the Moon, geez.. you're an ignorant. The egg is on your face for getting the two mixed up, and for believing in Nancy's gobbledigook :-) How could the Sumerians have know all this.. I think you should find a Sumerian and have him/her post what they know. Oh, that's right, it's a dead culture isn't it so there are no sumerians to ask about that. Guess that's why it's necessary to 'assume' and 'infer' things. Gee, they had a god, they have a mythology? That must mean the god *really meant* a planet... shucks, there's nothing to this psychic stuff.. Not only did the Sumerians know about "niburu" and all of our planets thousands of years before we discovered them, they knew also about their climates too. Where did they get all this information ? Part of the reason Sitchin is considered crapola is the extent of inferrence on top of inferrence he makes. Leaving fact and observation way behind, he put on his 7 league boots and wrote a work of total fiction. Obviously compelling enough to snare some credulous dolts. (I agree, and I disagree with you) I mean "you" are all pretty competent right ? Debunkers did feedbacks right ? I would have rather been told: "(we know it's there, and to be honest, we have no ****ing idea how to explain how the Sumerian knows about it)" *AGAIN* How could the Sumerian have known all this ? Yes ! Aliens do exist..and this is the proof. WHAT PROOF! Why are you making these comments onto a sci.* group? Do you think you are talking to 7th graders? Geesh! In the entire tract of stuff above, there is not one iota of anything other than your 'beliefs' and your 'hopes'. No proof, nada, nil, zippo, bupkis. O' The Sumerians list of Planets: [1]Sun - Apsu -one [2]Mercury - Mummu - counselor emissary of Apsu [3]Venus - Lummu - Lady of battles [4]Mars - Lahmu - deity of war [5]Earth - Ki - the maiden who gave life. [6]Moon - Kingu (the chief satellite of the planet Tiamat) [7]Jupiter - Kishar - foremost of firm land [8]Saturn - Anshar - foremost of the heaven [9]Pluto - Gaga - counselor and emissary of Anshar [10]Uranus - Anu - he of the heaven [11]Neptune - Nudimmud or Ea - artful creator [12]Marduck (Nibiru) - (the twelfth planet) Where did the Sumerians get all these informations ? |
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Planet_X: Our 10th Planet
No problem Carl.
Eddie T. "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in message ... In article , Eddie Trimarchi wrote: Why is it that you can believe the establishment scientists now? They were liars taking part in a huge cover-up before. What's changed ? Evidence for this assertion? My assertion is based on the volumes of posts from Zeta-believers claiming this. The archives exist if you feel the desire to revisit that drivel. I don't believe it myself at all. Ah, sorry, my bad. I misunderstood your statment. -=-=-=-=- Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, Antagonist, and Gubmint Disinformation Agent |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:02:08 -0800, Cosmic_Surfer wrote:
The Sumerians list of Planets: [1]Sun - Apsu -one [2]Mercury - Mummu - counselor emissary of Apsu [3]Venus - Lummu - Lady of battles [4]Mars - Lahmu - deity of war [5]Earth - Ki - the maiden who gave life. [6]Moon - Kingu (the chief satellite of the planet Tiamat) [7]Jupiter - Kishar - foremost of firm land [8]Saturn - Anshar - foremost of the heaven [9]Pluto - Gaga - counselor and emissary of Anshar [10]Uranus - Anu - he of the heaven [11]Neptune - Nudimmud or Ea - artful creator [12]Marduck (Nibiru) - (the twelfth planet) Where did the Sumerians get all these informations ? Well, if you look at the many creation tales, eastern and western, there is an incredible amount of information *in context* to their belief systems. For example: In Buddhism 'infinite universes' is described. Is this inferrence? Did the Buddha actually travel there? Or is it a supposition? The tract talks about the buddha gathering all the sands of a beach and travelling to the west and dropping one grain at a time. After all the sands were dropped he took all the 'worlds' they represented and reduced them to sand and then travelled to the north, dispersing them. How did they know there were so many. Hmm, just look up on a clear night and there's plenty of evidence to show the influence to the thinking. So lets take number your number [10] above. The sumerians describe Uranus (Anu) as a "supergiant planet composed of nitrogen compounds such as methane, etc. supercooled and unlikely to support life", right? They also list all of it's satellites and their wierd orbits, right? So if they 'knew all about them' and they 'described their weather' then they knew what we now know, right? Oh, goodness, they didn't did they? Guess that breaks down eh? I guess the same goes for all of the other planets, right? However many planets in their pantheon, their gods likely came first and then their place in the sky came later. Planets such as Mars and venus call a lot of attention to themselves as they move through the sky (Mars especially with it's wierd motions across the constellations). What is so far-fetched about their creation of other worlds, based on their pantheon, that they don't see? I could understand it if they had a hundred seventeen gods, but its pretty reasonable to assume there will be at least a dozen or so 'gods' to accomodate, right? Ok, your turn to give irrefutable evidence that sumerian planet descriptions infalliby describes their aspect as we've come to understand it based on our 'advanced' knowledge. O' |
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Cosmic_Surfer wrote:
snip The Sumerians list of Planets: [1]Sun - Apsu -one [2]Mercury - Mummu - counselor emissary of Apsu [3]Venus - Lummu - Lady of battles [4]Mars - Lahmu - deity of war [5]Earth - Ki - the maiden who gave life. [6]Moon - Kingu (the chief satellite of the planet Tiamat) [7]Jupiter - Kishar - foremost of firm land [8]Saturn - Anshar - foremost of the heaven [9]Pluto - Gaga - counselor and emissary of Anshar [10]Uranus - Anu - he of the heaven [11]Neptune - Nudimmud or Ea - artful creator [12]Marduck (Nibiru) - (the twelfth planet) Where did the Sumerians get all these informations ? Pietro, Where did you get this information? Also, what did the Sumerians say about the climates of Jupiter, Neptune, Pluto and Marduk? If you can tell me that, please also tell me where I can look it up for myself. Tom McDonald |
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On 16 Mar 2004 04:08:18 -0800, (Cosmic_Surfer)
wrote: "Laura" wrote in message ... "Cosmic_Surfer" wrote in message om... "Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in message ... In article , Rudolph_X wrote: Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha! "Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th planet..." -BBC -http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph? ..D'Oh ! The question is: If the zetas are not aliens, how did they know ? No, that's not the question. The question is: Did Nancy Lieder know? After all, all she's doing is presenting her own ideas, while crediting them to the imaginary zetans - presumably to lend her words some authority with the particularly gullible. Do you think that Nancy Lieder did all that mess,just to prove to the world that psychic power and aliens do exist ? I agreed up to a point that Nancy Lieder is only but a tool. (They use Nancy for their own ends/agendas or whatever it is) It is a very sad thing. The "zetas" are not Nancy Lieder, I would have thought that everyone was aware of these folks. According to her info, the poles of the earth should have shifted very nearly a full year ago. Of course, she explained it away as disinformation from the zetans themselves. Now she refrains from giving a precise date for when it will occur, but she still says it will. She also states that this planet x is currently between the sun and the earth, and closing with earth. Now, an object has been discovered by *proper* science beyond the orbit of Pluto? How could that possibly be the same planet that Nancy rambles about? It can't. You miss the point here. Planet X does not exist, but the sumerian's 12th planet do exist,the very fact you ignore facts when presented and proven beyond doubt. And there's probably a 13th, a 14th, and a 15th "planetoid" The sumerians didn't know anything about Sedna, any more than there are 52 cards in a deck, and 52 weeks in a year. HTH. By the way, Repeat after me "There *are* no Zetans" The egg is on your face for getting the two mixed up, and for believing in Nancy's gobbledigook :-) How could the Sumerians have know all this.. They didn't. That's just your credophilia showing. I mean "you" are all pretty competent right ? Debunkers did feedbacks right ? I would have rather been told: "(we know it's there, and to be honest, we have no ****ing idea how to explain how the Sumerian knows about it)" *AGAIN* How could the Sumerian have known all this ? LIke I said. They Didn't. They couldn't have imaged it. Yes ! Aliens do exist..and this is the proof. BWAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHA! -- Find out about Australia's most dangerous Doomsday Cult: http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/pebble.htm "You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down." |
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