Planet_X: Our 10th Planet

Why is it that you can believe the establishment scientists now? They
were
liars taking part in a huge cover-up before. What's changed ?

Evidence for this assertion?

My assertion is based on the volumes of posts from Zeta-believers claiming
this. The archives exist if you feel the desire to revisit that drivel. I
don't believe it myself at all.

Eddie T.

(Cosmic_Surfer), wrote:

"Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in
message

Rudolph_X wrote:

Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their
spider holes? Ha!
"Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th
planet..." -BBC

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm
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When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph?
..D'Oh !

I agree.

The question is:
If the zetas are not aliens, how did they know ?

Good question.

I mean "you" are all pretty competent right ?

The 'skeptics' only know how to criticize. If a UFO landed in their
backyard with Aliens exiting the craft they would call it a "weather
phenomena".

Debunkers did feedbacks right ?

You mean the debunker OCD feedback loop of "you're a kook...I see
nothing...you're a kook.." ad nauseam?

I would have rather been told: "(we know it's
there, and to be honest, we have no ****ing
idea how to explain how the Sumerian knows
about it)"

Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself.

And now for some late breaking empirical evidence from the overseas WB
Observatory showing the true nature of Planet X. I think this should
put to rest any notion that Planet X is just a 'glorified moon past
Pluto'.

In mpg format to show movement on Planet.

http://www.darkhorizon.com/Movies/Du...odgers%202.mpg

Now let's see those goddam skepti-cultists explain away THAT!

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"Laura" wrote in message ...
"Cosmic_Surfer" wrote in message
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"Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in message
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In article , Rudolph_X
wrote:

Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha!

"Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th
planet..." -BBC

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm



When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph?

..D'Oh !

The question is:
If the zetas are not aliens, how did they know ?

No, that's not the question. The question is: Did Nancy Lieder know?
After all, all she's doing is presenting her own ideas, while crediting them
to the imaginary zetans - presumably to lend her words some authority with
the particularly gullible.

Do you think that Nancy Lieder did all that mess,just to prove to the
world that psychic power and aliens do exist ?

I agreed up to a point that Nancy Lieder is only but a tool.
(They use Nancy for their own ends/agendas or whatever it is)
It is a very sad thing.
The "zetas" are not Nancy Lieder, I would have thought that everyone
was aware of these folks.

According to her info, the poles of the earth should have shifted very
nearly a full year ago. Of course, she explained it away as disinformation
from the zetans themselves. Now she refrains from giving a precise date for
when it will occur, but she still says it will. She also states that this
planet x is currently between the sun and the earth, and closing with earth.
Now, an object has been discovered by *proper* science beyond the orbit of
Pluto? How could that possibly be the same planet that Nancy rambles about?
It can't.

You miss the point here.
Planet X does not exist, but the sumerian's 12th planet do exist,the
very fact you ignore facts when presented and proven beyond doubt.

The egg is on your face for getting the two mixed up, and for believing in
Nancy's gobbledigook :-)

How could the Sumerians have know all this..

I mean "you" are all pretty competent right ?
Debunkers did feedbacks right ?

I would have rather been told: "(we know it's there, and to be honest,
we have no ****ing idea how to explain how the Sumerian knows about
it)"

*AGAIN*
How could the Sumerian have known all this ?
Yes ! Aliens do exist..and this is the proof.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 04:08:18 -0800, Cosmic_Surfer wrote:

"Laura" wrote in message ...
"Cosmic_Surfer" wrote in message
om...
"Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in message
...
In article , Rudolph_X
wrote:

Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha!

"Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th
planet..." -BBC

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm



When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph?

..D'Oh !

The question is:
If the zetas are not aliens, how did they know ?

No, that's not the question. The question is: Did Nancy Lieder know?
After all, all she's doing is presenting her own ideas, while crediting them
to the imaginary zetans - presumably to lend her words some authority with
the particularly gullible.

Do you think that Nancy Lieder did all that mess,just to prove to the
world that psychic power and aliens do exist ?

Nancy wanted to create a cult, get on radio and sell books and video
tapes. If you were dumb enough to get sucked in then I guess you were
gullible.


I agreed up to a point that Nancy Lieder is only but a tool.
(They use Nancy for their own ends/agendas or whatever it is)
It is a very sad thing.
The "zetas" are not Nancy Lieder, I would have thought that everyone
was aware of these folks.


Oh C'mon, read her transcripts, the "Zeta's" said what nancy wanted them
to say, right on down to defending her lying butt as her scam fell apart.
Are you really so credulous?

According to her info, the poles of the earth should have shifted very
nearly a full year ago. Of course, she explained it away as disinformation
from the zetans themselves. Now she refrains from giving a precise date for
when it will occur, but she still says it will. She also states that this
planet x is currently between the sun and the earth, and closing with earth.
Now, an object has been discovered by *proper* science beyond the orbit of
Pluto? How could that possibly be the same planet that Nancy rambles about?
It can't.

You miss the point here.
Planet X does not exist, but the sumerian's 12th planet do exist,the
very fact you ignore facts when presented and proven beyond doubt.

WTF? The Sumerians 12th planet? Where is this at? If I count Sedna as a
planet I still only get 10, are you reading future newspapers the rest of
us can't see?

The egg is on your face for getting the two mixed up, and for believing in
Nancy's gobbledigook :-)

How could the Sumerians have know all this..

I think you should find a Sumerian and have him/her post what they know.
Oh, that's right, it's a dead culture isn't it so there are no sumerians
to ask about that. Guess that's why it's necessary to
'assume' and 'infer' things. Gee, they had a god, they have a mythology?
That must mean the god *really meant* a planet... shucks, there's nothing to this psychic stuff..

Part of the reason Sitchin is considered crapola is the extent of
inferrence on top of inferrence he makes. Leaving fact and observation
way behind, he put on his 7 league boots and wrote a work of total
fiction. Obviously compelling enough to snare some credulous dolts.

I mean "you" are all pretty competent right ?
Debunkers did feedbacks right ?

I would have rather been told: "(we know it's there, and to be honest,
we have no ****ing idea how to explain how the Sumerian knows about
it)"

*AGAIN*
How could the Sumerian have known all this ?
Yes ! Aliens do exist..and this is the proof.

WHAT PROOF! Why are you making these comments onto a sci.* group? Do you
think you are talking to 7th graders? Geesh!

In the entire tract of stuff above, there is not one iota of anything
other than your 'beliefs' and your 'hopes'. No proof, nada, nil, zippo,
bupkis.

O'

OhBrother wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:34:26 +0000, Rudolph_X wrote:



Carl R. Osterwald wrote:


In article , Rudolph_X
wrote:



Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha!

"Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th
planet..." -BBC

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm




When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph?


CNN is going to broadcast a special program regarding the details of the
recent discovery, (tomorrow morning) on March 16, 2004, at 7:00 A.M.

The artist's renditions of "Planet_X" should be visible to your "naked
eye" if you watch CNN's broadcast!


It will likely NOT be called "Planet_X" but more likely "Sedna".

Hello O':

Apparently, you didn't read the BBC article. Regarding its name...

"...if its planetary status is confirmed, it may be that astronomy's
governing body, the International Astronomical Union, will want to
reconsider this, to make it more consistent with the mythological names
of other planets." - BBC

In other words, they'll probably change the name, and name it after one
of the ancient mythological gods of antiquity...

(By the way, wasn't one of the ancient gods named Rudolphious_X?)

Unfortunately, however, it may take another 200 years to get a ruling
from the International Astronomical Union, so this issue probably won't
be settled in our life time.

There will always be (at least) two opposing camps regarding this issue.
Is Planet_X a 'real' planet, or is the unknown reality of its existence
something other than what our minds can conceive of?

If it is a planetoid, then we would have to concur that Pluto is not a
planet either, and we really only have 8 planets in our solar system, not 9.

If it is a real planet, then Quaor should actually be the 10th planet,
making Sedna the 11th planet, then making Planet_X the mythological 12th
planet which Sitchin and others have claimed it to be.

However, we should also consider, in ancient bygone days, the Moon and
Sun were also (but wrongly) considered to be planets, and if we were to
entertain that 'astrological' view, then the totality of observable
planets would be 14. Of course this would only stand until some
'Astronomy Geek' like O'Brother discovers a 15th planet.

And, beyond the Oort Cloud, an immense spherical cloud surrounding our
planetary system and extending approximately 3 light years, or about 30
trillion kilometers from the Sun (whose vast distance is considered the
edge of the Sun's orb of physical, gravitational, or dynamical
influence), could there possibly be a 16th, or 17th and 18th planet?

If they exist, do we have enough mythical gods to name them all?

"Rudolph_X" wrote in message
...

There will always be (at least) two opposing camps regarding this issue.
Is Planet_X a 'real' planet, or is the unknown reality of its existence
something other than what our minds can conceive of?

"...the unknown reality of its existence...". Nice bafflegab.


If it is a planetoid, then we would have to concur that Pluto is not a
planet either, and we really only have 8 planets in our solar system, not
9.

Why? Pluto is substantially larger than Sedna. An arbitrary
line can be drawn, well, arbitrarily. What's to prevent the
IAU from making Pluto's size the cutoff?

[snip]


And, beyond the Oort Cloud, an immense spherical cloud surrounding our
planetary system and extending approximately 3 light years, or about 30
trillion kilometers from the Sun (whose vast distance is considered the
edge of the Sun's orb of physical, gravitational, or dynamical
influence), could there possibly be a 16th, or 17th and 18th planet?

If they exist, do we have enough mythical gods to name them all?

There are plenty. If we run out of Roman and Greek gods,
there are always the Egyptian. Run out of those? start
on the older Assyrian and Babylonian ones. Running low on
those? Get going on the native american, Incan, Mayan,
Polynesian, Japanese, Chinese, ....

When all else fails, India has over 300 million of them.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0000, Rudolph_X wrote:



OhBrother wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:34:26 +0000, Rudolph_X wrote:



Carl R. Osterwald wrote:


In article , Rudolph_X
wrote:



Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha!

"Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th
planet..." -BBC

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm




When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph?


CNN is going to broadcast a special program regarding the details of the
recent discovery, (tomorrow morning) on March 16, 2004, at 7:00 A.M.

The artist's renditions of "Planet_X" should be visible to your "naked
eye" if you watch CNN's broadcast!


It will likely NOT be called "Planet_X" but more likely "Sedna".

Hello O':

Apparently, you didn't read the BBC article. Regarding its name...

"...if its planetary status is confirmed, it may be that astronomy's
governing body, the International Astronomical Union, will want to
reconsider this, to make it more consistent with the mythological names
of other planets." - BBC

In other words, they'll probably change the name, and name it after one
of the ancient mythological gods of antiquity...

(By the way, wasn't one of the ancient gods named Rudolphious_X?)

I think it was "Ridiculous_X" (or was it "Ludicrous_X"?) if memory serves


Unfortunately, however, it may take another 200 years to get a ruling
from the International Astronomical Union, so this issue probably won't
be settled in our life time.

There will always be (at least) two opposing camps regarding this issue.
Is Planet_X a 'real' planet, or is the unknown reality of its existence
something other than what our minds can conceive of?

Wow! Nice segway out of reality and into fantasy. My congratulations,
you're improving!

If it is a planetoid, then we would have to concur that Pluto is not a
planet either, and we really only have 8 planets in our solar system, not 9.

The shells slip across the table, which one has the bean under it,
decisions, decisions...

If it is a real planet, then Quaor should actually be the 10th planet,
making Sedna the 11th planet, then making Planet_X the mythological 12th
planet which Sitchin and others have claimed it to be.

If planetoid, sedna, merghetroid or whatever name it ultimately gets is in
the OOrt cloud, I suspect it is too close to support the fantasy
six-thousand year cycle (Or was that 30-thousand year... Need to consult my sitchin to get that number
right)

However, we should also consider, in ancient bygone days, the Moon and
Sun were also (but wrongly) considered to be planets, and if we were to
entertain that 'astrological' view, then the totality of observable
planets would be 14. Of course this would only stand until some
'Astronomy Geek' like O'Brother discovers a 15th planet.

Hmm, well pietro said the Sumerians knew all about the different planets
so would that imply that ten is the "Real Truth Number" based on his
August opinion?

Like numerology, if you keep shifting things around, changing the
delineations you can come up with infinite possibilities.


And, beyond the Oort Cloud, an immense spherical cloud surrounding our
planetary system and extending approximately 3 light years, or about 30
trillion kilometers from the Sun (whose vast distance is considered the
edge of the Sun's orb of physical, gravitational, or dynamical
influence), could there possibly be a 16th, or 17th and 18th planet?

If they exist, do we have enough mythical gods to name them all?

Depends upon whether you follow the Sumerians, Zetans or Trolls.

What number do the Trolls use?

O'

In article , Eddie
Trimarchi wrote:

Why is it that you can believe the establishment scientists now? They
were
liars taking part in a huge cover-up before. What's changed ?

Evidence for this assertion?

My assertion is based on the volumes of posts from Zeta-believers claiming
this. The archives exist if you feel the desire to revisit that drivel. I
don't believe it myself at all.

Ah, sorry, my bad. I misunderstood your statment.


-=-=-=-=-

Official AFA-B Bully, Pest, Antagonist, and Gubmint Disinformation Agent

Carl R. Osterwald wrote:
In article , Eddie
Trimarchi wrote:


Why is it that you can believe the establishment scientists now? They

were

liars taking part in a huge cover-up before. What's changed ?

Evidence for this assertion?

My assertion is based on the volumes of posts from Zeta-believers claiming
this. The archives exist if you feel the desire to revisit that drivel. I
don't believe it myself at all.


Ah, sorry, my bad. I misunderstood your statment.


That's okay Carl, nobody's perfect, not even me.

"OhBrother" wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:28:03 -0800, Cosmic_Surfer wrote:

"Carl R. Osterwald" wrote in message ...
In article , Rudolph_X
wrote:

Where are the debunkers now? Hiding in their spider holes? Ha!

"Astronomers have detected what could be the Solar System's 10th
planet..." -BBC

-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3511678.stm



When will it be "naked eye visible," Rudolph?

..D'Oh !

The question is:
If the zetas are not aliens, how did they know ?
I mean "you" are all pretty competent right ?
Debunkers did feedbacks right ?

I would have rather been told: "(we know it's there, and to be honest,
we have no ****ing idea how to explain how the Sumerian knows about
it)"

Pietro Somavilla, Blaster, maximus, and now Cosmic_Surfer have all
succumbed to the dreaded "sock puppet" syndrome in which the person's
brain detaches from it's body and continually morphs into similar looking
but sillier versions of the original. Only the healing hands
of Nancy LIEder can bring him back from his swoon.

Nope.. evidence please.

Repeat after me...

"Oh great emissary of the grand Zetan empire... Restore our beloved
Cosmic_surfer to his original Pietro form and never let his brain wander
from his body again..."

O'

Tholen@antispam would like to says :
What does any of that have to do with astronomy "Oh BOTHER"